Anarcho-punk

Anarcho-punk is a faction of the punk subculture that consists of bands, groups and individuals promoting anarchist politics. Although not all punks support anarchism, the ideology has played a significant role in the punk subculture, and punk has had a significant influence on the expression of contemporary anarchism. Read more…|Edit this Artist photo: Toxik Ephex

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JTLDN

Noo-Dog doesn't know a single thing about anarchy (or reasoning).[2] / strawman. anarchists believe anarchy to be the absence of authority (which obviously includes tyrants), not just govts. that's never existed, so to claim that it's bad is dogmatic. / empirical observation means an experiment must be controlled for variables, replicable and measurable. ideologies can't be "empirically observed".

17 days ago
noo_dog

Of course you could refute all my arguments by saying I'm being fed lies by western capitalist controlled media, but inb4 that nonsense :p

March 2012
noo_dog

Finally, I'd like to address the point you made that "Anarchy has to be global,it hasn't worked because something outside of the community fucked it up". I think that you're right - if anarchism was really to work in the way most anarchists hope it would, it would not only have to be global, but everyone would have to share the same views and intentions of the proponents of anarchy so as not to exploit the lack of governance to their own advantage. However, this is an incredibly utopian concept, and simply unrealistic, hence I really don't see this as a valid defence of Anarchism as a political view point. As a purely academic ideology, Anarchism sounds great. Then again, look at all the other ideas that sounded great in the past: Marxism, the Zimbabwe African National Union, Zionism along with the Palestine Mandate. I think in more recent times a good example is the Arab Spring. Already we are starting to see that things are worse in Egypt.

March 2012
noo_dog

Of course, at the other end of the spectrum, overly-authoritarian regimes usually doom themselves to more primitive existences as well - look at what happened in Cambodia. However it seems that some degree of authoritarianism can actually encourage productivity - look at the significant advancements that both Japan and Germany made during WWII. Now I'm not saying these regimes were good, advancement vs primitivism is not the only qualitative measures of a system of governance. Though as someone who grew up in capitalistic society as you were so keen to point out, I do value advancement, and I think a system of government should at least be strong enough to encourage its citizens to cooperate with and value each other, treat others with respect and not violate human or property rights.

March 2012
noo_dog

I did have reasoning behind my argument, and it seems that you disagree, which is fine. However, I take exception to the ad hominem attacks and statements like "Noo-Dog doesn't know a single thing about anarchy.", which is just silly, because 'Anarchism' (I use this instead of 'Anarchy' which is not the political viewpoint, just a word that means lawlessness) is a political viewpoint that, just like every other political viewpoint, thousands of people debate its interpretation and meaning every day. You might not agree with my interpretation of it but I have come across it honestly trough reading and speaking to people who are either proponents or opponents of anarchism. Furthermore, I agree that there is no absolute reason that Anarchy would necessarily lead to primitivism, but as you said growing up in a capitalistic society has allowed me to make the empirical observation that in reality the more a nation tends towards anarchism, the more primitive the lives of its inhabitants are.

March 2012
coleheideman

No,anarcho capitalism was made up by capitalists.It's not anarchism it's psuedo bull shit.Anarchism calls for the destruction of Capitalism, Because Capitalism causes competition and greed, and provides a platform for coercive hierarchy.Noo-Dog doesn't know a single thing about anarchy.Anarchy has to be global,it hasn't worked because something outside of the community fucked it up, generally.But he is somewhat correct about not choosing the sytem.There is no plan to achieve anarchy, unlike something like Communism(Marxism).And anarchists don't consider themselves leftist.They'reessentially Jeffersonian Democrats I think.There's no reason why having no government or coercive hierarchy should automatically be considered a bad idea.Being so closed-minded and assuming life would be primitive or something is purely an expression of the effect growing up in a capitalist society has on you.Read up and THEN come back here to be an asshole,when you actually have reasoning behind your argument.

December 2011
phoenixsinger93

"Anarcho-socialism makes just as little sense as Anarcho-capitalism." Only if you don't know what you're talking about.

December 2011
v0ltorb

wat

October 2011