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Inderektly
Hey amigo, thanks for reaching out. It's kinda' funny that I 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 haven't listened to 𝘌𝘳𝘰𝘴 just yet – I had a buddy text me the morning it leaked, but it just hasn't felt like a huge priority for me. I'm definitely curious about it, but I guess there's a part of me that feels like it was probably shelved this long for a good reason, maybe? I don't think I have any weird hangups about wanting to "respect the band's wishes" or avoid it, or anything like that. I actually think it's really cool to be able to hear it after all this time, but it's also not something that I was necessarily chomping at the bit to someday spin, you know? Anyway. Did you get a chance to try it out for yourself yet? (Oh, and for what it may be worth... I think I was [and am] big on basically their entire catalog's sound outside of maybe 𝘈𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦. Which is good fun when the mood is right, but otherwise not my go-to sound from 'em.)
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Edgkrvzhr
Being an unfinished album, I can understand Eros not being the biggest priority for someone to get to, even if it took almost two decades to finally come out in some form. The production sounds a bit crispy in places and you wonder if the band was to revisit it today, what would they change? I enjoyed the album quite a bit, nonetheless. Definitely the next logical step after Saturday Night Wrist, nice middle ground of atmospheric, mood driven songs and even bangers. Feel like "Smile" would have been the lead single, which I can get why Chino uploaded it Youtube years ago. Has a certain magic to it that brings the listener in, even if it doesn't quite have the riffs that hit like say, "Melanie" and "Sable." But yes, I would definitely give it a go whenever you want a curious listen. Think it's still worth checking out, despite some shortcomings being a lost album.
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Edgkrvzhr
Re: Adrenaline, I love the energy and grit of it, even has some of my favorite songs from the band (the singles, "Nosebleed," "Root," "Birthmark," "Engine No. 9..."). HOWEVER, I feel with it being so different compared to what the band would make after, I can't blame those who put the album dead last in their rankings. Definitely its own beast. I also quite enjoy their discography all around and revisit it often when I need my sexy Alternative Metal fix. My top three of White Pony, Diamond Eyes and Around The Fur will probably remain unchanged, but they tend to put some of the most notable albums of the year they come out, so I feel they're doing the best a long running band can do. Or at least, within my wheelhouse of bands.
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Inderektly
They really are a case study in consistency, aren’t they? I’ve had a great time becoming infatuated with each new album as they drop… and in the midst of those new-album rollouts, I always find myself revisiting their catalog and marveling at the sheer amount of quality music within it. The appreciation for their whole career almost becomes compounded with every new LP they put out, at this point. I can’t think of too many other bands or artists that I get to experience that with. Definitely a league of their own. • Regarding 𝘌𝘳𝘰𝘴 — I think it’s fine. I enjoyed my first listen but I’m not sure that I share the same enthusiasm that a lot of hardcore fans have expressed for it. It could just require some additional plays and time to settle – or maybe there’s a subconscious bias at play here – but it didn’t strike me with an initial impression like their last 4-5 albums have on the first go. Still enjoyable and great to add to the library… but I’m not quite enamored with it yet.
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imitatingart
Greetings last.fm user Inderektly. I hope you are well. I have discovered your page from your shout on BABYS IN A THUNDERCLOUD, a shout well spoken. Or written, rather. I also appreciate your dislike of the false scrobblers, such a trifle to use a site like this in a dishonest way. I have a question for you, what is the most influential moment from your life related to music that you can recall? List multiple, even, if you like.
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Inderektly
Hey there, thanks for swinging by and leaving a shout. 👋 I had to go back and peek at the comment I made on BABYS since I had no real recollection of what I may’ve said. Suffice to say, I still stand by it 100%. • I think it’s also refreshing to stumble across another user who really understands how embarrassing it is to abuse or bloat scrobbles on this site. I guess one could argue that it’s “not that deep”… but I see it happen so often, and it never fails to perplex since I feel like it defeats the entire purpose of the site. Oh well. • That is a loaded question you’ve asked, for sure. Do you know how you’d answer it? 👀 I don’t want to half-ass my response so I’ll be chewing on that for the next day or so, and (hopefully) give you a reply with some actual substance. I think a few things come to mind, but narrowing them down to one is a tall order – one I’m unsure I’ll be able to adhere to. 🤔
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imitatingart
Perplexing is right, why use last.fm if you are going to lie about what the stats truly are? So odd. I do have an answer for my own question, though it is a bit funny. Rihanna's Umbrella had me so confused as a young'un, so much so that it straight up had me questioning why any music existed at all. Such a silly thought in hindsight, but I absolutely could not stand it, and it was everywhere at the time. Then, one day in elementary school at recess, someone brought their iPod touch out. It was that day I heard Eminem's Not Afraid for the first time. It blew my fucking mind. Something in my brain finally clicked. I always had songs I liked, but none of them could ever overwrite the negative connotation I had with Umbrella, until I heard Marshall spit that admittedly corny song. My God did it ever hit the spot, I finally understood. There was something so beautiful in it. As much as the song cracks me up now with certain lines, the message is still strong, and I really felt it that day.
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Inderektly
...And that happened through the band Thrice. Technical guitar riffs and post-hardcore were so huge to me as a teen. Huge love for everything in that post-hardcore sphere, which simultaneously sparked my interest in "getting" the full-album experience. I think that completely shaped the way I consume music. • Some other formative highlights include witnessing GY!BE perform new material, live, and having it live rent-free in my head before being publicly released. Having certain artists and genres just "click" — especially during a time in my life where I was working graveyards with an iPod and hundreds of new albums at my fingertips each evening. Particular drives where certain albums resonate especially well... just too many to really tally up. But ultimately, I imagine a musical timeline could probably be traced back to buying that Thrice CD back in 2003 or so. I shudder to consider an alternate reality where that didn't happen for me.
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imitatingart
It is hilarious look back on, and I can't say I have changed much. I still absolutely can't stand music I do not like, and I will do anything in my power to make sure I will not hear it if it is playing. As for Love the Way You Lie, I can't say it bugged me in the slightest. It was only really the chorus of Umbrella that drove me insane, and her feature doesn't have the same pop-y repetitiveness, or the, from my perspective at the time, absolutely meaningless "ella ella ayy ayy ayy ayy ayy-ayy". Rihanna is a talented singer, but man, that song. I can appreciate it a bit more these days, but I am also happy the radio has new garbage to play these days. Seems the new trash doesn't stick around as long. Works for me! I appreciate your response here, certainly many ways in which music will affect our lives, and it is damn near impossible to quantify. As much as I can't stand a lot of music, I still find it beautiful that somebody in this world will enjoy what I do not. It's so very human.
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imitatingart
What a brilliant discovery that is, too. To find your own kind of music, rather than what everyone around you has available or puts on. Certainly a different era, the last couple decades, and especially now. To think a cassette used to be the best way to listen to your favourite song. Craziness. Your iPod was only the beginning, really, and those shifts where you get the opportunity to truly listen are something special. To fully embrace something you've never heard before, and get paid for it, too. The greatest cost being your sleep schedule, right? The memories are dear, too. I recall showing my friend Slint on a long drive back to the hotel from our first and so far only Nine Inch Nails concert, a deadly show from a band which he had introduced me to. I couldn't believe I got to be the one to show him Slint. The timestamp is recorded here in my scrobbles, so precious in a way. Now I am curious, which Thrice album is this? I'll have to give it a listen ASAP!
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FelixKulpa
Hey - thoughts on the new BoC album? My spontaneous feeling after two listens is highly positive. The depth and hi-fidelity quality of the album is what I think jumped out for me most immediately as being really rewarding and adds and interesting wrinkle to their otherwise texture rich but at times obtuse sound. If their other albums were you looking at an old monitor with 70/80's of animations and information this album is the same information but as full 3-D graphics projected in front of you, if that makes sense? But the album also surprised me with how cohesive the sound is, the vocal samples, crunchy beats and loud / quiet dynamics that repeat. I did on first listen miss some variation but the second listen has revealed there is more to digest within this new cohesive sound. Early favorites are Prophecy, Father and Son, Naraka, Blood in the Labyrinth and You Retreat in Time and Space (which feels the most like a list track from their first trilogy of albums).
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Inderektly
It's pretty good! I'm right there with you and those strong first impressions. The comparison you shared makes a lot of sense to me. It 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 feel like going from a CRT TV to an OLED, without losing any of the quintessential BOC atmosphere. They introduced some new sounds and styles without sacrificing too much of their DNA, while also giving fans what we've come to expect and love from their established catalog. Wildly different than 𝘛𝘰𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘸'𝘴 𝘏𝘢𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵 – a great album that I dig a lot – which had some understandably lukewarm reception out of the gates. That was a killer record, but I think it trades some of its immediate appeal for a really specific vibe and vision. By comparison, 𝘐𝘯𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘰 already feels so colorful and multi-faceted. It pops. Grooves. Slithers, shines, and everything between. I think you'd have to be hard-pressed to 𝒏𝒐𝒕 find something you enjoy on first listen, personally. Super impressive feat after 13 years, I'd say.
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Inderektly
Well said on all fronts. 🙌 I did scoop up the record, yeah. The flexi is neat, I guess it contains the ambient / drone track they were playing before the album at the pre-release listening parties. I think I read that it’s the same audio whether you play it backward or forward, but haven’t messed with it enough to confirm that myself. I think the art direction and packaging is super well-done for the LP, too. A lot of records shy on that anymore, and opt to 𝘮𝘢𝘺𝘣𝘦 include a basic insert tucked inside a single sleeve. I get it, from a production and cost perspective… but I do think it misses the entire mark when it comes to physical presentation and providing an opportunity to get further absorbed into the music. The aesthetic was nailed on the tri-fold jacket and accompanying booklet we got for this edition of 𝘐𝘯𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘰, and I’m really digging it.
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FelixKulpa
Totally, a really nice package and the flexi disc being the mysterious cherry on top. When I opened my package on release day I didn't know it was gonna be included and for a 30 seconds or so I was the chosen one to receiver a new piece of the ARG or something but google of course quickly confirmed my growing suspicion that probably wasn't the case.
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FelixKulpa
Hey - thoughts on the new BoC singel? My spontaneous feeling is that I'm excited its just kind of beautiful/sad/hopeful - I feel like there's a dread running through the sound of Tomorrows Harvest its nice to hear a glimmer of something else from this new track, if its and indication of what the album will sound like.
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Inderektly
Oh yeah, 100%. If anything I was kind of caught off guard with just 𝘩𝘰𝘸 hopeful the tune becomes as it goes on. Those piano notes, especially, are far more bright and optimistic than I was expecting to hear from BOC... especially in light of the creepy posters going up around the globe to promote this new release. (I'm assuming you've seen those, yeah?) I do agree that the world could probably use a breather from another bleak or dread-inducing soundscape from the boys – feels like there's enough of that infiltrating the real world this year. A proper escape with their fifth LP can't happen soon enough. I'm enjoying the slow-trickle "ARG" style rollout we're getting here – especially since they happen so rarely, at the rate BOC drop new releases – but I'm definitely getting antsy for a release date.
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FelixKulpa
Yeah the posters are great and for sure gives the release a more ominous tone so far than the music itself. Totally enjoying the ARG rollout too, almost now feels like a throwback album release strategy where they don't seem to happen as often. And yes curious to see what will occur next, album date or another song?
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Inderektly
Pretty funny timing, preorders just dropped for the album about 10 minutes before you left that shout. May 29th is right around the corner. 🙌 https://bleep.com/release/590960-boards-of-canada-inferno
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FelixKulpa
Haha yeah I just saw the news and came straight back here. Very cool to see the art and everything, at first glance I dig it. The track name "Age Of Capricorn" also got me excited it could sonically be a hommage to Aquarius. Might have to pre order the red vinyl + the yellow shirt looked quite nice.
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ConeyAllen
Wucha think of that latest Ninajirachi project? I'm enjoying it quite a bit personally.
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Inderektly
Man, ILMC is a riot. Can’t say I was really following her before this year, but I’ve been having a blast with this latest LP of hers. I feel like I previewed a few songs when the album was first making waves and I just wasn’t clicking with what I heard at the time. Wrong headspace, I guess. But these past few months have had me gravitating towards a lot more pop and electronic than usual, and I think that paved the way to a much better revisit of the album last month. Or maybe the sum of it is just that much better than its parts, for me. Either way… super glad to finally give it the time of day. 🖥️💕 Really cool to hear it’s resonating so well with you too. For whatever reason I imagined you were already savvy to it.
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Inderektly
Hey there, it’s been a minute. 👋 To be completely honest, Thrice has become more of a nostalgic band for me than anything else – which is wild to admit, because I was absolutely obsessed with them as a teen and figured they’d be a mainstay for life. But in reality, their post-hiatus sound is just not something that really appeals to me or my tastes these days. I’ve tried out a couple of their latest LPs just out of sheer curiosity and found myself bored to death. (Dustin’s lyricism feels substantially weaker than ever, too, but I’m wondering if maybe the nostalgia and sentimentality is masking that from earlier material.) People seem to be pretty happy with their latest album from this year though. I did peek a few songs here and there and felt no way about them. Did it resonate a bit more with you, I take it?
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nagazine
Hey again, thanks for shoutback. I had zero interest in the post-hiatus stuff too, unfortunately, but the new record felt alright, especially the first single, which is basically a throwback to their 2005-2007 era in terms of sound and emotion. All the other songs are not so much.
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Inderektly
I guess 1 out of 11 ain’t bad. Which single was that again? 𝘎𝘯𝘢𝘴𝘩? I think it was 𝘏𝘰𝘭𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘖𝘯 that everyone seems to be collectively losing their minds over – I mean, yeah, I get that the percussion is a crazy throwback to 𝘋𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘣𝘰𝘭𝘵 days, but I guess I’m just too old and disenchanted with the band to get really excited about it. 🤷♂️ I’m glad others are really pleased with the record at least. It sounds like it’s been received quite a bit better than the two before it. M/M wasn’t a perfect album by any means… but I still think 𝘈𝘯𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘺 was such a perfect send-off for the band. Lyrically, thematically, and sonically. 👌 Could’ve been the last song to soundtrack them riding off into the sunset as far as I’m concerned. Maybe that’s what my brain has established canonically, at least. 🥴
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Inderektly
If you’re faking your scrobbles, you’re doing a great job at it. Cursory glance is looking pretty authentic to me – are you saying you don’t actually listen to music or something?
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FelixKulpa
Quick rec: baan - neumann. a south korean cave-in/hum/isis-esq album that scratched the itch for a kinda joyous loud barrage of guitar, drums with the occasional gang vocals that I think you'd dig. not an elegant album but energized certainly.
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Inderektly
Thanks for this suggestion, Felix. Really good first impressions after one listen. Production-wise, maybe a little rough around the edges like you mentioned… but I can see that adding some charm to the overall experience. Had me thinking about Pelican, but with a lil’ more grit and (welcome) vocals to mix things up. I’ll definitely be returning to it. 👍
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FelixKulpa
I had a feeling you'd appreciate the sound their going for. But totally agree about the production and having listened twice now also some of the songwriting could be more dynamic but when they lock in its quite satisfying even if a bit one dimensional at 59 min. Any hidden gems of the year so far you'd recommend one to check out here around halfway mark of the year?
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Inderektly
Maybe not necessarily "hidden gems", but based on your lack of scrobbles for any of the following, I'd probably suggest the latest from: 𝗕𝗥𝗨𝗜𝗧 ≤, for a glitchy, monolithic and bleak twist on post-rock. • 𝗛𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲 𝗞𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗹 who just dropped their debut album – one that doubles down on BCNR's 𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵 𝘛𝘪𝘮𝘦 with unapologetic determination. If you can get over the fact that they literally clone BCNR's songwriting more than a few times (or if you just really want "more" of that BCNR FTFT sound in 2025), I do think it's a quality record worth exploring. • 𝗛𝘂𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗰 is the side-project of Parannoul, dedicated to his post-rock songwriting. The first release he dropped under it is solid; reminds me of Boris meets Swans at times. Hypnotic, noisy, and dark. • Newest 𝗠𝗼𝗶𝗻 EP is good even if it doesn't reinvent the wheel. • And finally, maybe 𝗠𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗮's latest: has a kind of post-punk, art / prog rock thing going on. Really fresh and enjoyable listen.
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FelixKulpa
Thanks for the recs, gotten a chance to give them all a listen. First of thanks for pointing the Moin ep out, not sure how I missed that one! Huremic was a hit too and I'm glad to finally get into a thing related to Parannoul since those albums haven't hit as much for me but this did. Messa and Bruit were neat to but Hesse Kassel might be just to much like BCNR with almost just 6+min songs it didn't grab me. To return the favor: Brighde Chaimbeul - Sunwise (best bagpipes you've heard, has collaborated with Polacheck & Stetson), Jenny Hval - Iris Silver Mist (not sure how much Hval you've tried over the years but her new one is a good one), Hayden Pedigo - I'll be waving as your drive away (same text as with Hval), Eiko Ishibashi - Antigone (jazzy but catchy slow core almost), Kassie Krut - S/T EP (came out last year, ex-Palm peeps new band and its good), Hiroshi Yoshimura - Flora (unreleased album by ambient late & great Yoshimura).
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Inderektly
I really need to revisit their last couple of albums – and maybe even the trilogy – since it’s been a minute. I think I’ll be doing that over the weekend as a bit of a primer to how I’d answer that question. I’d love to give you some thoughts from a broader optic, especially with 𝘉𝘪𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 (allegedly) being their final “big sound” album, and (presumably) ushering in a conclusion to the current lineup. I feel like there is always so much to unpack and soak in with any of their albums that push 2 albums, but this one feels extra special.
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Inderektly
●○ Alright, my thoughts: I think it’s pretty phenomenal. It can very handily hang with the trilogy™ which is honestly not something I was ever anticipating to say about a new Swans album. Beggar was good – even great at times – but I’ve always felt that this latest era of Swans has emphasized folkier, acoustic, and-or vocal-heavy songwriting above all else. I’ve missed the bite and fervor. The 𝒈𝒓𝒐𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒔. I knew we were in for something special not even halfway through the opening track, and I’m so pleased that they kept up at full steam for the entire record. It truly flies by and never really loses the plot at any point. If you told me that it was written and recorded right after 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘎𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘔𝘢𝘯 – the last “tight” and deliberate Swans record, for me – I’d be inclined to believe you. It’s tough to pick any highlights when the whole thing feels so consistent. A pretty impressive feat when you consider the runtime, too.
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Inderektly
●● I especially found myself locked in with several of the bass segments that sprawled out and took their time. Chris killed it, and it’s (once again) a treat to have Norman back on guitar duties. I’m convinced he’s responsible for some secret flavor of the Swans spice that resonates so well with me. The callbacks sprinkled throughout the record were a fun treat – that Seer harmonica and the Glowing Man vocals are the first things that come to mind. I appreciate, too, that they didn’t just collage a bunch of throwback sounds for two hours. The new territory being explored (𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘦𝘳𝘨𝘦, wow) is fresh and exciting to hear. And all those triumphant / shimmery / soaring detours… they allow an otherwise dark album to run the gamut, and results in something that seems so special and fulfilling to listen to. It’s tough to not feel like they knew exactly what the fans were thirsting for with one final “big sound” Swans record, and made sure we were quenched. Maybe even drowned.
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Aristocrat2
I agree completely, it stunned me away on first listen. I think it's in my top 3 Swans albums, and I'm excited to see what they're planning to make now they're moving away from big sound albums. Leaving meaning did feel like a sort of epilogue to Glowing Man, but Birthing feels like a proper successor that could've made a trio a quartet. Where does it rank compared to other Swans albums you think? Personally I have Soundtracks, Seer and Birthing. I do need to relisten to the trilogy but I feel like they're all amazing but stand up together, as better than the sum of their parts
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Inderektly
I think we have the same three albums for our top Swans picks. Based selections. 🤝 I will say that Glowing Man gets a spot at the table, too, though it's difficult for me to place exactly which album it'd periodically get swapped out for. (I think it just really depends on the energy and atmosphere I'm looking for in the moment. I know I was pretty obsessed with it when it first dropped, and probably would've placed it above Seer at one point. Not so much these days.)
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Inderektly
Thanks dude, right back at you. 🤝 You excited for that new Maruja around the corner?
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Aristocrat2
Found you from a Boris shoutbox, but I love your library! Big fan of GY!BE and Swans I've seen Stars of the Lid a lot, how do you recommend getting into them?
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Inderektly
Your use of the word "but" in that shout is super amusing to me. 😂 I think I know the exact exchange you're referring to. It's crazy how people still seem to comment on it after all this time. // You've got a nice library, yourself. 👍 Lots of variety for being on here for < a year. You excited for that new Swans dropping this Friday? // SOTL are great, there's a couple of ways to get into them. Most people will say you should dive into either of their "big" albums (Tired Sounds or Refinement of the Decline). Those are both stellar records that clock in at a little over two hours. But the reality, I think, is that you can kinda' just queue up anything from them to hear what they're about. You really can't go wrong with anything in their catalog. If there's anything at all I can recommend, it's that you try them out either super early in the morning or very late at night – when you're feeling a little heady or on the cusp of sleep, and can get enveloped in their sound.
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Aristocrat2
I didn't mean 'but' to be funny but I get it ^^ I'm very excited for the Swans album, really liked the single. I'll take the advice into account next time I want something to listen to late at night, thank you !
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Inderektly
Nah, I don’t know about any of that… but I appreciate the sentiment. 🙌 Rad tastes, you’ve been spinning that new Deafheaven and Horsegirl quite a bit from the looks of it. Super based 2025 albums.
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Inderektly
It sure looks like we do. 🤝 Great library, yourself. I've been mildly into Bambara since the release of SOE back in 2018, but their latest really inspired me to (finally) check out their backlog and it's all been so good. One of the newer kicks I've been on.
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rooj-2
I'm very excited to see them again. That they play headline shows at such small, intimate venues blows my mind (certainly that's been my experiences over here), I can see them commanding much bigger crowds in the future if things go well for them. Birthmarks hasn't hit me as hard SOE or Stray yet, but I'll give it time. The cleaner production caught me off guard to begin with, but I've got used to that and I do think it suits the somewhat more polished songwriting. My main complaint is that for a shorter runtime to be effective, every song has to hit, and there are a few which are a bit forgettable which lessens the impact overall.
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Inderektly
Those intimate, small shows are the best. Some of my favorite live performances have been at hole-in-the-wall bars for $13 a ticket. Really feels like you're getting to witness something truly special that's tucked away from the public eye... especially if those artists go on to "blow up" in popularity. // Yeah, Birthmarks is a real slow burn. I think it leans more into atmosphere as a strength than hooks or bangers. I do dig it but I'm obviously way less familiar with their discography and how it plays into the grand scheme, contextually. Do you have a favorite Bambara record at this point or nah?
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rooj-2
Swarm and SOE are both really enjoyable, with interesting concepts and a pretty high hit rate, but both fall down a little towards the end, I find. Stray is my number one - easily their most consistent, with virtually every song having been a favourite at some point. The premise being songs each with a different story, but linked by a common theme and with some overlap of characters and references, is something I really enjoy. So many of my early listens were spent trying to piece together how each song related to the rest, and those little discoveries and realisations made me fall in love with it all the more.
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Inderektly
It’s pretty stellar, I think. I’m relishing that 𝘯𝘦𝘸 𝘢𝘭𝘣𝘶𝘮 smell as best as I can, and opting to pace myself with it… so I’ll be having (only) my second listen this afternoon. But first impressions lived up to some paramount hype for me and even exceeded them a bit. I avoided the singles despite the buzz and clamor, and was not prepared for what I got [in the best way possible]. I’m happy to see it receive such warm reception right out of the gates. I’m going to guess – and hope – it has your seal of approval, yeah?
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ConeyAllen
man, i'll be honest... I haven't really been excited for a deafheaven relese in a while. I went in on the singles; had to see what they were doing after Infinite Granite and couldn't wait based on what I heard. I hold the ever so cold take that IG wasn't that great. I get that other people like it, just wasn't for me. but man, this record? dare i say, it's better than sunbather? idk. at least their best since. every single individual on this project has leveled up significantly. musicianship, songwriting, lyrics, vocals, the highs, the lows (read: heaviness), just everything next level for this band on here. i see that maybe writing infinite granite could have been integral to creating this record, and for that maybe I love it now. who knows. Anyway, yeah: seal of approval.
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Inderektly
Right on, you love to hear that. Yeah, I know that IG was not everyone’s cup of tea, to put it very mildly. That album warmed up on me a fair bit, but it wasn’t – and still isn’t – my go-to record when I’m in a Deafheaven mood. I do hear their signature style embedded in there, under the surface… but if I wasn’t so big on shoegaze in recent years, I think it would probably be a flop for me. That aside, I think you hit the nail on the head by speculating that it was a necessary detour before arriving at LPWP. I’m kind of pacing myself with this new one in an effort to retain its fresh appeal, and I’m loving how much it continues to unveil on subsequent listens. I dodged the singles but assured myself we were in for a treat after reading countless comments on the “return to form” through Magnolia and Heathen as singles. (And to think… those are hardly even highlights for me at this point.) Really glad to hear you’re digging the album so much.
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Inderektly
I think I’d consider it to be any kind of “artificial listening” just for the sake of amassing scrobbles to one’s profile. So users who log music 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Submitting impossibly large batches of scrobbles manually. Having 1 song looped for 6 hours straight — all that kind of nonsense. The whole point of a Last.fm profile is to capture your listening history and document what you listen to… so circumventing the actual “listening” part in the pursuit of some bigger numbers on the charts is kinda’ gross and defeats the whole purpose. To me anyway.
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Nordic_Storm
Your compatibility with Inderektly is High. You both listen to Nails, Gifts from Enola and Sannhet.
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Inderektly
Right on. 👌 I don't get to match with too many people over GFE, so that's rad. (Especially since it looks like you've been giving them some love in recent years, too.) You definitely cover a lot more metal than I do; I spy a lot of great artists in your library, from what I've skimmed so far.
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Oh, I bet I do. That was my bread-and-butter for music exploration from ~2009-2013 or so. From what I see so far, you’ve already listened to a lot of what I’d suggest off the cuff… so I’m gonna’ dig a little deeper in hopes of getting you some suggestions that are brand new to your ears.
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So being that you have 8,000+ artists scrobbled, I think odds are slim that you haven't explored anything I could pitch your way. I've poked and prodded around your library a bit, and it looks like you've probably checked out just about any of my suggestions at some point between 2021–2024. A few you're missing though: you could try out *Ancients, potentially, though I see you've [barely] listened to *Shels (and they overlap a bit). • By The End Of Tonight is a little on the mathy side, but they're a lot of fun too. • Definitely the Japanese outfit Té... they're an A+ blend of post-rock, math-rock, and post-metal. (Worth tracking down since they're not on streaming services.) • Faltre's "Elegeia" is great traditional post-rock. • The first couple of albums from Damascus are really nice. • The S/T EP from Hourvari is peak post-rock / screamo from a decade ago, I still visit it often. That feels like a fair start to me. 👍
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Inderektly
Sorry for the delayed response here, I've been traveling a bit and am just now catching up on Last.fm. Cheers for the shout! You have some stellar variety on your own profile, and I recognize a lot of great artists / albums that are definitely in my own wheelhouse of tastes at the moment. I'm not even gonna' ask how you feel about that Greep debut since it's pretty evident from your charts. 😂 Did you get a chance to peep the new Darkside single though? I hope we get a 3rd LP from them sooner than later.
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The Greep debut caught me by surprise too because while I appreciate Black Midi for what they are they never really did all that much for me. But yeah, couldn't stop spinning The New Sound. Haven't heard the new Darkside yet, I'll check that out tonight!
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Inderektly
I very much feel you on that one. BM’s debut album is still the only record of theirs that I love from start to finish. I think that thing’s pretty special; not to discredit everything after. Cavalcade and Hellfire are fine but I never arrived to the same level of obsession that the rest of the internet seemed to. Funny enough, it’s the more “theatrical” elements of those 2 albums that detract a bit for me. So on paper, anyway, The New Sound shouldn’t really work for me at all. But it’s almost like Greep doubled down or had the legroom to stretch that sound to its full potential, and it just kind of works better for me… and you too, from the sounds of it.
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Thanks dude. I gotta' admit that I really don't listen to that much Jpeg at all. It's a little funny that he's become this staple of shared artists among the influx of new [and presumably younger] faces that have swung by my shoutbox these last few weeks. Gotta' salute the Melt-Banana and Parannoul, though. 🫡 [What do you make of each of their albums that dropped this year?] I also spy some MOTFD in your library – I'm still riding a high from seeing them (for the first time) about a week ago. I know they're a common name in a lot of the music circles we probably frequent, but as a whole I think they're still severely slept-on.
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JPEG picked up a lot of steam these recent years, I see a lot more people getting into his music. Moving to Melt-Banana, 3+5 was amazing! Definitely worth the 11 year wait tho I wish it was longer, probably my 2nd favourite project from them only behind Fetch. Parannoul's Sky Hundred is another phenomenal album, easily one of the best this year and I'd say arguably the best in their discog too - I have no clue how people like Fantano can say it's a 6/10 :( . These are just two of the many albums that make this year of music insanely stacked (gonna be even more when Greep, Aphex Twin and Godspeed drop). Moving on, happy to see another MOTFD enjoyer! They aren't talked about nearly enough as they should despite making great music (and I'm still mad I didn't get to see them live with Haru Nemuri :/ ). One last thing, love the Jane Doe pfp :D
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Yeah, JPEG has definitely had a substantial following, no doubt... but it does sorta' feel like he's become a wildfire after he helped scare the hoes last year. 🔥 Totally agree on Melt-Banana. 3+5 goes so hard, they didn't miss a beat in those 11 years. I'm with you in thinking that Fetch just 𝘮𝘢𝘺 have a slight edge... but they're both such a blast, and easily my favorite outputs from the band so far. New Parannoul is killer too. I was really impressed with it – but not quite as engrossed – as I was with ATM when it dropped last year. But it's really settled in with me. He's got such a consistent streak going, it's kind of wild. Definitely do not agree with a 6/10 score but I also don't take a lot of stock in Fandango's takes. He can articulate his opinion well, but that's all it really is to me at the end of the day. // I hope MOTFD continue to tour and that you can catch them! They showcased a new track when I saw them and it was pretty rad, no surprise there.
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Inderektly
Medium ain't half shabby. I'm way more hyped on your Nujabes + Faye Webster plays. 👌
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Inderektly
Man. I've been called a lot of things on this site... but – facetious or not – I'd say 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 and 𝘮𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 are definitely 2 new additions to the list. 😂
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Inderektly
Looks like I could throw a dart at your profile and hit a party banger. Everyone would sketch out and leave early if you tried that on mine. 🎯🫣
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Inderektly
Nice. JPEG and DG gotta' be the musical peanut butter and jelly of white dudes who say they listen to experimental music. 👌 Inseparable staple of any terminally online hip-hop library.
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Inderektly
But I'll defend that title to the death. Or bury you for suggesting it. Let me know how this works.
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Inderektly
Passing the vibe check from vengeful burning Shosanna has been a life-long goal of mine. ✅
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Inderektly
Thanks for that. 🙇♂️ Looking at some artists we have in common… have you checked out that new Alcest yet?
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Inderektly
Cheers, and right back at you. It’s always cool to cross paths with another ambient-head who isn’t into electronic music exclusively. I see a lot of great artists in your library. It really gives off the impression of quality > quantity.
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Inderektly
Thank fam. It’s a Photoshop edit that I’ve been using some variations of, for way too long. // Nice Courting plays, how are you liking the new one?
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teeshirtis
the new album has really grown on me!! saw it 3 times last week and wow; i think i prefer it 2 guitar music but unsure. it's fab honestly .w.
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ilovebr3akd0wnz
Your compatibility with Inderektly is Super. You both listen to Swans, Boris and Deafheaven
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Inderektly
Pretty solid selection! You've got a lot of variety in your library but those are some great overlapped bands if you ask me.
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Inderektly
At ~245 songs a day, I'd say you're in pretty good shape to keep your horizons broadened.
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Inderektly
Outed by last year's Listening Clock stats. Couldn't be me. https://i.ibb.co/bQhCdCS/ilovebr3akd0wnz-clock.png
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Inderektly
Hey, thanks – the artists we DO share are all pretty awesome though, so at least we’ve got that going for us. I spy glimpses of quality stuff all over your library (among the majority I’m just not familiar with or have barely tried out, myself).
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Inderektly
Got you fooled. 😅 Nice charts, by the way. Between your variety in genres and disdain for gnomes, you seem like a pretty grounded individual.
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Inderektly
Yessir. Pretty pumped for the new tour dates with Melvins as well, should be very loud and very fun. How about you?
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ConeyAllen
I missed it at first, but found it at Bullmoose. Looks like DW has it back as well. That Boris / Melvins tour looks so good. More than likely will go. Can't wait to hear Bullhead live in its entirety haha
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Inderektly
Very nice. I don't think the orange variant will be too difficult to track down, but I do suspect that there will be a fun tour exclusive if that's your cup of tea. I may try for one of those and sell my orange preorder, depending on how that all shakes out. I haven't spent a ton of time with Melvins but I've heard enough of them – including Bullhead – to know that'd be a rad show.
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Inderektly
Thank you for that, I've been using it for way too long. At this point I alternate ears / sides every year to mix things up, and maybe tweak the color scheme if I'm feeling extra adventurous. // Nice charts, too. What do you make of that new Billy Woods? I've yet to sit down with it but I'm looking forward to changing that pretty soon here.
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Fair enough I for one approve of it being forever. The fact you switch it up slightly every now and then is definitely enough to keep it fresh. Im kinda desperate to find a new one myself but its so hard. But ive had mine for so long aswell I may aswell keep it too lol. Well ive only listened to it once and definitely need more than that to fully appreciate and understand it cause ya know its Billy Woods after all. But off that one listen I loved it one of the better first listens to a Billy project ive had honestly.
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Cheers, I’ve had this “bio” for ages but it’s been getting a lot of recognition lately and I don’t know why. I peeked your profile and your more recent charts are definitely something I click with… but obviously I respect the legitimacy of your library as a whole, too. Cool bit of Brave Little Abacus love in there. 👌
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Inderektly
I don't think I recognize that name, but yeah, it's some garbage. I don't trust any account listed as a "Top Listener" on an artist's page, because ~99% of them are complete bots. I've legitimately stumbled across users who admit that they set up Spotify to play random stations while they're asleep or out of the house, just to boost their total artists. Having 16,000 artists in your library means very little [to me] when you've got 1 or 2 scrobbles for 14,000 of them. Just gross behavior, I'll never get it. Plus if you actually cared enough, anyone can use several online tools to cheat and boost scrobbles and inflate listening history. There's literally no point in faking them. 🤷♂️
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Inderektly
I don’t think I’m familiar with that username, but something tells me I probably won’t lose sleep over homoswag69 disapproving of a comment I’ve made on Last.fm.
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ConeyAllen
Just gotta say that seeing Botch live was everything I imagined it would be after listening to them for so long and believing I would never get to see them reunite. Gonna try to snag some GA tickets secondhand come December.
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Inderektly
You love to hear that. Just about everywhere I look, folks lucky enough to catch them this year have been absolutely gushing about this last string of shows. Really glad to hear that you had a great time and that the travel was justified.
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Inderektly
Right on. I’ve been taking the piss over there these last couple of days but also stand behind my takes. Not looking to change anyone’s mind or anything, but it is a bummer that there are still folks who can’t click with his ambient stuff. For being as “entry level” and “overdone” as people claim it to be, I haven’t heard a lot of ambient / drone that scratches the same itch. 🤷♂️ I welcome more of it from him. Anytime.
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Inderektly
They got me with that blue-black merge, yeah. (And the addition of the new track.) How about yourself?
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ConeyAllen
That's the one I wanted most, but by the time I saw they were out that version was sold out. I (hopefully) got a copy of the indie exclusive. If they drop another variant with orange in it I might pick that up too haha. Very stoked that this even exists.
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Inderektly
Is this your first copy? It's a classic record that deserves to be in everyone's collection, I agree. They actually added 2 new variants if you hadn't seen. (Same page.) Neither feature orange though, but maybe it'll happen someday. I've been enjoying one of those white / black / blue / orange "haze" copies from 2011. I had to bite again for that supposed remaster, just to see what it's about.
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Inderektly
Sorry for the Last.fm neglect! I had only given that new Wormrot one listen so far but enjoyed what I heard. I really ought to go back to it soon; couldn’t tell you why I already haven’t, actually. I assume you’ve been a little smitten with it, yeah?
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ConeyAllen
Oh yeah, quite enjoyed it. Made me revisit their other albums and I'd say they have one of the most solid discographies in the genre. Scrobbling grindcore always tends to inflate the scrobbles, but I ain't too mad haha.
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Inderektly
Oh yeah, if the songs are even long enough to register as a scrobble in the first place, ha. I can't say I've ever really done a deep-dive on grindcore as a genre – I've only really dabbled way back in the day, when I got acclimated with some more abrasive genres.
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ConeyAllen
Wormrot is nice and a good starting point cause they mix a lot of other genre's in there. Voices has a lot of screamo vibes to me... I hear a lot of Orchid and pg.99 influence. Their latest has a lot of punk vibes to it. It's all still very much grindcore tho. I recommend it.
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Inderektly
Cheers, thank you for the kind words. In recent years especially I feel like I’ve really gravitated towards ambient and drone – not exclusively, but especially in the evenings – so that new JH felt right at place. For anyone not acclimated with those genres, though, I wouldn’t fault them for feeling a little let down by it. Glad you dig it though… it’s certainly a special listen. Also, nice variety in your charts too. Love to see it. 👌
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Inderektly
From browsing your recent charts, I think for a post-rock fix, you can't go wrong with Gifts From Enola's "From Fathoms". Any album from Do Make Say Think will treat you right, too; they capture the scale of the genre but manage to dodge a lot of its tropes. More time with Evpatoria Report's "Golevka" – it looks like you may've briefly dabbled in it. (At least get through Taijin Kyofusho on that one.) Lotta' people sleeping on Damascus' Heights, that's a fun one, especially if you dig Caspian. Any of Leech's 3 albums. Either of Lost In The Riot's records for something a little more energetic, riff-loaded, and mathy. I'll probably stop there for now. // For some mellow tunes to completely zone out to, I 100% suggest anything from Kyle Bobby Dunn, and A Winged Victory For The Sullen's S/T. Essential night listens. All of that should make for a good start; hopefully there's something in there that will strike your fancy.
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FelixKulpa
Skee Mask! If your enjoying his stuff you should add Compro to your list of albums to check out, for sure my favorite of his. The track Session Add is almost perfect and gives of som real BoC vibes. Also crazy about Etid - curious to see how that story develops.
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Inderektly
Oh yeah, I listened to Compro first, about a week ago. Which inspired me to finally get around to Shred and Pool. Pool's a lot to process but I enjoy what I heard and can't wait to dive back in. [So to speak.] Compro was probably my favorite on first listen. // When do you think we'll get a new BOC album, if ever? Tomorrow's Harvest and its desolate, chilly, dystopian aesthetics have never felt more relevant than now. Would love another LP from the boys. // Yeah, wild developments with ETID. I don't even know what to make of it. Sounds like some unrest has been brewing for a few months but coming to a full stop seems rough. Such a shame, too, after dropping Radical. Really enjoy(ed) that album and I'm hardly an ETID fanatic.
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FelixKulpa
Yes I also just the other week caved in and bought Pool on bandcamp (since he's removed all his stuff from spotify), been meaning to listen to it since it came out considering I was such a fan of Compro (and yes, a record makes a great first impression but, for me, really stands up to repeat listens). But agreed, a lot to process but for an almost 2h album its not to tiring and keeps shifting. // Hm, not expecting one at all really. They did to that remix just last year and did approve that Lone cover of Roygbiv released on Christmas eve (great cover if u haven't checked it out!) so I mean they are around so who knows if they been working behind the scens on stuff (especially with a quarantine year or two). // Yeah, extremely abrupt as far as break ups go considering a new highly acclaimed album they've yet to fully tour. Hopefully they can work it out but internally. And same, was a fan of NJA and Ex-L but haven't gone back to them so Radical was a surprise.
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