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Try Mozart's Piano Concerto no. 20 in D minor.

try this recording - https://open.spotify.com/album/6CA92VxwdlPHgtNwCkJHcS?si=4JLDjw8rS7S2bY3Z6aiVug . Mozart wrote 27 Piano Concertos basically inventing and uplifting the genre. Every concerto from the 9th onwards is considered a masterpiece and it is one of the most consistent high level writings in classical music history if not the most. Of these 27 concertos, 2 stand apart, these are the 20th (The one recommended) and the 24th, because these are the only 2 concertos in a minor key. They are tragic, dramatic, symphonic in scale compared to the other. This 20th concerto in particular was a favourite of many legendary composers including Beethoven (he wrote the most performed cadenza for it), Brahms, Robert Schumann, Clara Schumann, Alkan, Rachmaninoff. The opening is intense, dramatic - representing the Sturm und Drang era. Try this and let me know how you felt.

For example, take Hermann Scherchen recording of Mahler 5, the Mahler 5 has a 15-20 minutes long Scherzo as the 3rd movement, but what Scherchen does? He cuts the Scherzo by 10 minutes and adjusts it to just 5 minutes and then proceeds to the 4th movement (the Adagietto). Even Mozart's requiem - probably the greatest work ever written - has many bad recordings due to the performance being a total failure.

In 1980 in Berlin, with Loren Maazel who was guest conducting the Britten War Requiem with the Berlin Philharmonic, and supposedly was unhappy with the choir. At some point during the concert the tenors missed an entrance, and so every entrance after that he cued them sarcastically with both hands, staring at them, for the rest of the concert. That was bad enough, but at the end it was even worse. The piece ends with the choir singing, a cappella, ‘Requiescat in pacem”. At that point, Maazel quits conducting and just stared at his baton, twirling it in his hands. The choir had to enter on their own, sing the section by themselves, and cut themselves off. Maazel took no part. Whats funny is that he blamed the authorities and others when he was not considered as the successor of the mighty Karajan after his death in 1989 (that role went to Claudio Abbado).

You asked "does a conductor really have the ability to ruin a great piece of music?" I say its the conductor who makes the music great, atleast to the audience and listeners. We people have no understanding of a piece of music in its text form, most cannot read sheet music and even the most who can lacks the imagination to imagine it playing. The art of imagining entire music just by looking at sheet music is reserved to the great composers and musicians, for example Beethoven on his deathbed looked at Schubert's lieder for the first time and said "Truly there lies a divine spark in this Schubert". How could Beethoven do it? Because he had the skills required to imagine the characters in the sheet music and play them in their mind with the perfect tempo, meaning he imagined them performed in his mind. Rachmaninoff's 1st Symphony was also a huge failure at that time due to the conductor who was supposedly drunk, resulting into his depression. Here also the conductor is at fault.

I would also include the 10th and 13th symphonies here but since the composer himself said it then i have no right.

Thanks man, and also thanks for the follow. I also love this movie, one of my top 5 films!

Welcome! He wrote legendary piano trios which are considered the greatest ever written alongside the likes of Beethoven, Schubert, Ravel etc. (btw all of these are also a must listen, especially Schubert's 2nd piano trio and Ravel's piano trio). His 2nd Piano trio especially is considered his greatest one. Alongside it, the Piano Quintet in G minor is also a masterpiece. If you want some works on an even greater scale then there are always his monumental symphonies, which alongside Mahler and Bruckner are the most large scale symphonies ever written. He also wrote 2 great piano concertos, the 2nd was written as a gift to his son, he made recordings of both himself on the piano under the baton on Andre Cluytens.

I am currently watching "Three Colours" Trilogy - Bleu, Blanc et Rouge - based on the colours and theme of them in the French flag, can recommend it 100%, its a masterpiece of the cinema. If you want some action/thriller movies then watch Akira Kurosawa's "High and Low". If you want to watch movies depicting life from a philosophical angle watch Yasujirō Ozu's "Tokyo Story" and "Late Spring", Kenji Mizoguchi's "The Life of Oharu" and Kurosawa's "Red Beard". If you want to just watch a movie for colours and cinematography you can watch any film by Wong Kar-wai, my personal recommendations being "Chungking Express", "In the Mood for Love" and "Fallen Angels", also "Paris, Texas" is a must in this category. Another really great masterpiece is Mizoguchi's "Ugetsu" , its a short film of around 90 minutes but one of the greatest films ever made. Last but not the least, I would recommend my favourite film - Edward Yang's "Yi Yi" to be watched by every person at least once in their lifetime.

Other really great films are - "Cinema Paradiso", its a homage to cinema and its impact on lives of people. If you want to watch animated films then Satoshi Kon's "Millennium Actress" is a personal favourite of mine along with his "Perfect Blue". If you want to watch newer movies of this century then watch "There Will be Blood", "No Country for Old Men", "Memories of Murder", "Parasite". Other classics from the past century from around the world that are worth a deep dive are "La Dolce Vita", "8 1/2", any movie of legendary directors like Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, Tarkovsky, Ingmar Bergman, Kubrick, etc. A really fun trilogy to watch is Sergio Leone's "Dollars Trilogy" which ends in the legendary "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" , just after which you can watch his legendary "Once Upon a Time in the West". Happy Watching, do let me know if you watch any of these.

I have not heard that much Bach tbh, Of his great works I have only heard Matthauspassion and Johannespassion because they were used in films by Tarkovsky, but they are too long for me, they are like vocal operas. Of his solo works I have only heard his few organ works, WTC, Goldberg Variations and a few concertos and I did not like them very much, I always prefer to listen some other works by the composers I have listed in my list. Like instead of listening to Goldberg Variations I listen to Grieg's Lyric Pieces, Debussy's Preludes, etc. Also this year I am exploring more of Chamber music, that too of composers like Schubert, Beethoven, Brahms, Schumann, Tchaikovsky, which I prefer long, romantic and melodic - and many of these forms, like the String Quartet/Sextet/Octet, etc. did not exist at Bach's time. This is just a temporary list though maybe one day I will add Bach, this list if more of what I enjoy to listen more instead of me ranking composers by their abilities.

What would your top 15 look like btw?

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I have only heard his film music, that too for only one film, I must check him out. I think cinema - especially great movies - fall under Wagner's concept of Gesamtkunstwerk (total work of art) i.e. to merge music, poetry, philosophy and drama into a single work - and Wagner himself is considered a titan of classical music so all film composers are kind of following his legacy - knowingly or unknowingly. For example even Hans Zimmer (who is probably the greatest film music composer alive) has shown deep admiration for Wagner, saying that he "wanted to be little Richard Wagner" when he was young.

whats stopping you?

good point!! maybe i just don't have the habit of it. i'll try to nurture it.

me too!

Liszt then proceeded to sight read it, at a tempo so fast that Grieg had to slow him down, and with such great ease that he was comfortable enough to make comments to his audience of his students casually and give remarks to Grieg. Liszt was so impressed by the finale that he played it again. Later, Grieg wrote “When he had finished, he handed me the manuscript and said in a cordial tone ( 'Keep steadily on; I tell you, you have the capability, or the capacity, for it, and—do not let them intimidate you')". Liszt was 58 years old at that time, way past his prime as the King of Piano but he still had the skills to match even the greatest pianists and above all - had his unparalleled gift of sight reading, the greatest in history which allowed him to casually perform such feats, as expected of the mighty pianist. But above all, Liszt loved nothing more than discovering new talents and geniuses, even teaching hundreds for free and promoting contemporaries.

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i did play the piano for a time period, but i have to leave it due to some reasons, however later this year i plan to start again!

btw you used "too", are you a musician?

Even from the first symphonies, Schubert showed exceptional talent in them, however his earlier symphonies are in the shadow of Haydn and Mozart. But the last 2 symphonies - 8th (Unfinished) and 9th (the Great) are in an entire league of their own. These final two symphonies reveal that Schubert was not just a master of chamber music and the supreme master of the lied but also a master of the symphony and orchestration as well. The final years of Schubert's life are a tale of their own. He gave most of his masterpieces in the final 5-6 years of his life and his works of this time suddenly became darker, complex and melodic compared to his earlier works. Despite dying at a young age of 31, he is considered by critics to be at a level as that of Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven i.e. a true master of their art.

Liszt views human life as being filled with love, storms, transitory struggles, having both defeats and victories or has he described them - a series of preludes, or preliminary, temporary stages - each represented by a distinct theme in the symphonic poem. Death is not an end, but the "initial solemn note" that marks the beginning of a larger, mysterious existence, which lies beyond our understanding and that life is a preparation for what comes after death. This symphonic poem is one of the pinnacles of the genre and was written by the founder of the genre himself. Liszt employs a technique where a single, foundational musical theme is constantly altered and reshaped throughout the piece to fit the changing emotional landscape and to mirror the ever-changing randomness of life around a "main theme".

David Bowie was one of those artists through which I discovered Classical Music. There is a legendary recording of him narrating Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf - that was one of the records which made me dive into classical music. He is also one of the most original and respected artists of all time.

I like Satie, his music is really unique, even more than his contemporaries Its not hard to play like Ravel nor does it create a vivid imaginary like Debussy - still its enough to make you feel multiple emotions, especially the Gnossiennes, Gymnopedies and Nocturnes . He is actually considered the "grandfather of ambient music" and suitably so. Also he has a very interesting life (from our perspective). Though I listen to Ravel and Debussy more because I don't listen to solo piano works that much nowadays.

forgot to ask what do you think about him?

3 favourite Composers = Ravel, Schubert, Wagner (Debussy is close 3rd), what about you?

wow, i also played the piano for a little time but i left it due to some reasons, hopefully i am expecting to resume it later this year

Thanks, I am new to Jazz and I have heard only Bill Evans, Miles Davis and John Coltrane, while I have heard some names other than these, Mingus is a new one, i will hear it soon when I get the time as I believe it would be a heavy piece.

Welcome, glad you enjoyed it.

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thank you, hope you also have fun in whatever you are doing

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I haven't changed mine in years, but thanks anyways!

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Leningrad Symphony and Waltz no 2, also like String Quartet no 8, wbu?

Nice! Violin Concerto No. 1 is an all-time favorite, especially the nocturne and the passacaglia. I'm also obsessed over the song 'Lament for a Dead Child' (the version with Nina Dorliak and Zara Dolukhanova). He is one of my favorite composers, but there's still so much of his work to explore.

listen to Mozart's Requiem, 21 Hungarian Dances by Johannes Brahms, 5th symphony by Mahler, the Nutcracker by Tahcikovsky

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they dominate my top albums 180 days, last year i listened to Kendrick full year, all his 4 major albums have 3500+ scrobbles, which alone makes 14000, then there is his mixtapes and singles which make 18500

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i sleep to music but i fall asleep in like 1 hr max, the rest of the night music just plays

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