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fethry
Hi, Tchaikovsky's Second piano concerto is great, it's one of my favorites, too. About the berceuse and barcarolle - I just love them both, they express so different emotions and so unmistakably Chopin-esque... I really think they're great. By the way, happy New Year and best wishes (although a little late ;) )!
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fourleggedant
one other thing i should have mentioned, i came to serialism via Richard Strauss. first Schönberg's Verklärte Nacht, then Gurre-Lieder, then Pierrot Lunaire (my most profound musical revalation ever), and from there serialism opened up for me. i hope this is helpful. :). -ant
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fourleggedant
hello again :). if you're not familiar with serialism, it might be worth starting with some early Schönberg (pre- and early 12-tone, i.e. Herzgewächse, Hanging Gardens, Erwartang, Pierrot Lunaire, etc. -- difficult music, to be sure, but it will help you understand what Berg is doing in the concerto). i think it is also important to bear in mind that Berg was inspired by the death of Alma Mahler's daughter. finally, atonal music goes against the grain of our entire cultural upbringing and is very difficult to get a handle on: it may take a long time to 'get'. i listen to a great deal of 12-tone music, but each new piece i hear still takes a long time to grasp. that said, effort and reward are usually linked. i'd also suggest maybe trying Lulu before the concerto, because the narrative makes it much more accessible.. and it's one of the greatest opera's EVER! :). -ant
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fourleggedant
hi Alpha86 :). you asked what i think of Berg's violin concerto... i think it amongst the most breathtaking works ever composed. it deserves the moniker "masterpiece". but even the best musicians can make it sound horrid: see Perlman's positively limp performance (with Ozawa). Perlman is no hack, but he misses the mark with the worst of them. i'm no fan of Mutter or Levine, but they really do hit the mark: their romantic reading is entirely appropriate. i think Berg had quite romantic sensibilities, and his romantic impulse has been very important to the broader modernist movement. the concerto proves that modernists can be as fiercely limbic as any romantic. the concerto is very, very dark. it really is music-to-slit-your-wrists-to. even though i love bleak art, i sometimes find the concerto is just too much, leaving me miserable and teary for hours (like Smetana's piano trio, although that _always_ makes me cry :P). i consider such a visceral response a sure sign of brilliance. .-ant
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fethry
Have you listened to anything by Ferruccio Busoni? Some of his piano works are really impressive. His Piano concerto, op. 39 is amazing not only with its proportions - it certainly is a masterpiece (and a killer for the pianist). It's also the only piano concerto I know that concludes with a choral movement.
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fethry
By the way, do you write your tags yourself? Usually I just can't find enough time and enthusiasm to this - it's so boring and sluggish and so on. However, I'm pretty pissed off by the way most people who upload their music on the internet tag audio files. In fact, what really makes me angry is last.fm's way of dealing with classical music tags. There are a thousand ways one can write the title of a classical work or its movements. It's a hell of a thing, surely - it can easily get one hundred characters long. I myself am confused - how should I tag classical music? Sometimes I write only the tempo marking in the title field and fill the work's name as "album". Of course, this causes a lot of confusion here, in last.fm. I might be the only listener of about 1000 tracks with such titles. I agree that it's almost impossible to make all those different titles redirect to one but it's much easier with composer names. Such tags as Schumann, R., Borodin and so forth should be ok. But are not
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rem-d
yes this really is fantastic! Verdi always is great powerful music! Thanks for the info about Dies Irae;)! I have a recording from 1979 by the Philharmonia Orhcestra and the Ambrosian Chorus conducted by Riccardo Muti. I got the cd from HMV it was one of its "HMV Classics" CD's and they are usually fabolous recordings!
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fethry
Try the "Eroica" variations if you have a chance, they're great. I meant the whole ballet "The Creatures of Prometheus", opus 43, not just it's overture. It's strange but it's quite unknown. In fact, so are "Egmont", "King Stephan" and many other marvelous orchestral works by Beethoven.
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