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hello-cthulhu
"Generally reviled?" Really? By whom? As a Bowie fan, personally I just see Tin Machine as one phase in his legendary career. Certainly some people might prefer different eras - some love Ziggy Stardust, or prefer the early 80s, or his later 90's experimental stuff. For me, this is the sound of Bowie getting revitalized, an essential part of his oeuvre. You don't get to Heathen, much less Blackstar, without Tin Machine.
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unnamedfile
Everybody wrinkle their nose at this project at first listen but I really think it sounds underrated and groundbreaking
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OnceLivingSol
For the reason unknown I've expected an Earthling-like sound from this band. Now i know it isn't like that, it's simply bad songs and Prisoners Of Love.
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Pdna2
It's true that many of their songs were throwaways from a compositional perspective. But I saw them live, and they were a phenomenal band. There are a few clips on youtube (like one live version of Heaven in Here) that capture this. Also, Bowie's 80s material had already devolved to shabby pop such that later on he said that he had "fallen asleep" artistically for a while there, writing to feed his habit. Here he forged an artistic relationship with Reeves Gabrel, who was an experimental guitarist who reawakened in Bowie the spirit of taking artistic risks rather than pumping out safe, but inane records. Their partnership lasted through most of the 90s, a time during which some interesting, if uneven, albums were released. So by playing in a more improvisational way with great musicians (the Sales brother rhythm section is the same one as the 2 Iggy/Bowie collabs Idiot and Lust for Life, and Gabrel certainly brought originality and virtuosity to the table).
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OnceLivingSol
Yeah, got your point, if wasn't for Tin Machine there wouldn't have been his 90's career. I probably agree as I do regard Earthling as one of his biggest achievements. Still, it is an excuse for Bowie himself bot not for the quality of the songs on this album. It's not good, although, if you dig harder, there are, undoubtedly, some good moments.
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HaHaHaYoureDead
честно говоря, в душе не ебу, что в этой музыке такого плохого, о чём все говорят - отличный боевитый рокнролл, и в половину не настолько уебищный, как львиная доля остального рок-мейнстрима восьмидесятых. боуи в принципе поп-артист, хотя и с претензиями - как мадонна или леди гага, только с сонграйтингом получше, ну а тут всё как раз просто и без претензий - ну и ок вполне вышло.
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outfield7790
Такого понятия как поп-артист к Боуи применить нельзя - он слишком авангарден. Это ваш хард рок и есть поп или попса, за исключением пары ранних "оккультных" коллективов.
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violettte1
I unabashedly adore this era. He was so beautiful and the music was so wonderfully weird and sexy in a uniquely 1990 kind of way. I miss him terribly.
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theextragirl
Happy birthday Tin Machine 1. You still hold up, maybe even better outside of a few bits, 30 years on.
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Dr-Flay
For those that can get over Bowie not being their favourite version of Bowie, the Tin Machine project was one of the high points of his music. Bowie back to the simple honesty of playing guitar and writing rock songs. It was never going to storm the charts, it is a Jam-band that wrote quirky oddball songs. Bowie fancied a jam with some people of equal abilities, so the first album has a loose and playful feel, and the second album a more thoughtful and introverted style. Metal-heads hate it because "Eeew ! it is Bowie and he does dance and pop". The pop-lovers hate it as they think he was the dance act they fell in love with. Critics hate it because they felt Bowie had abandoned them, and they did not understand Jam-bands or where they fit.
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MachineOfaDream
Where did people come up with those stories about Tin Machine that I see below? Is there a link to an interview or something? People make it sound like some kind of movie where Bowie was down on his luck and Tin Machine saved him. Bowie met Reeves' wife on the Glass Spider tour, she gave him her husband's demo tapes, and they decided to do a project together. Bowie later would say some nice stuff about being a part of a band and whatever. When Bowie went back to doing solo work, you can barely even tell Gabrels was still working with him. I don't think Bowie considers his 80s work to be bland. How do you explain that he continued to play those songs in concert? Did he play Loving the Alien on the Reality tour because the song was just really bland and awful?
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lyle_catcliffe
Bowie largely did abandon his 80s work - the bulk of it. By 80s, of course, we mean Let’s Dance onwards... he continued playing Loving the Alien as that is a truly excellent song on a truly awful album.
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Pdna2
Ha! Weak by Bowie's standards?? At the time, this band project woke Bowie up from his self-confessed "creative slumber." As he admits, he'd been churning out soulless pop for the "Pepsi generation" (TV ads and all) in a perpetual coked up haze before doing these albums with his old friends, the Sales brothers (from Lust For Life album) and innovative guitarist, Reeves Gabrels. Gabrels played a vital role in Bowie's 2nd lease on artistic life, staying on well beyond the Tin Machine albums. He had confronted Bowie personally about his increasingly bland output in the 80s, and Bowie listened. Also, the live shows were a breath of fresh air, with a stripped down but intense energy amplified by the small venues-- not the monstrous big hair spectacle of his 80s stadium-pop kitsch.
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gokunirvana
Weak? This must be one of the most underrated bands ever. They have many great tracks, and some of David Bowie's best vocal performances of his entire career (don't get me wrong, I love his voice). What's so bad about them? The lyrics? The playing? The production? I don't find anything wrong, I think people hate it because everyone else does it.
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WalterDigsTunes
Its weak by Bowie standards, but I must admit that the second album does have its moments.
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Moonagedreams
Never saw in all my life a more shining jewel... Tin Machine were great. David can do it all.
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