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flowersandwinds
Anyway, congrats on the global citizen awards!! http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/events/global-citizen-awards
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GiovanniBozzola
He hates the very spirit of jazz and has spent his entire career trying to choke it. Marsalis has all the talent in the world but no guts, soul or desire to try anything new, which is sad. [3] Also, he doesn't recognise the importance of white musicians in jazz music.
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Tenantlaw
He's opinionated, true, but you don't have to agree with him to enjoy his music. He's a terrific player, and one of the best arrangers in jazz. (If only he could write a catchy melody, instead of stringing together interesting phrases aimlessly, he'd be as good a composer as he's trying to be). No, I don't agree with him-- you can see from my charts that I listen to all the stuff that Marsalis disdains -- but I am open to any good music, including his.
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OcellatedGod
He hates the very spirit of jazz and has spent his entire career trying to choke it. Marsalis has all the talent in the world but no guts, soul or desire to try anything new, which is sad. [2]
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MisterJunior
Wynton's brand of jazz is a "museum piece" because he rejects the advancements made by the Free Jazz and Fusion guys of the 60s and 70s, not to mention the work done by the Avant-Garde since that time. Not to say that some of those advancements didn't end up being something of creative dead ends, but to reject the groundbreaking work of artists like Ornette Coleman, Cecil Taylor, Derek Bailey, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler and of course John Coltrane -- as well as many others -- as "self indulgent bullshit" and to basically play only forms from the 20s through the early 60s is ridiculous, disrespectful and antithetical to good art's purpose of forging ahead and breaking new ground. Conservatism and contentedness and being completely beholden to old styles and ideas are deathblows to worthwhile art of any kind, and they're the qualities that best describe Marsalis, Stanley Crouch, etc. Marsalis has all the talent in the world but no guts, soul or desire to try anything new, which is sad.
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DavidSmith98
That's not to say fusion is bad, or Jazz isn't relevant, or anything like that. But in terms of peak popularity - 1920 to 1965 is pretty much spot on. Rock and roll took over from 1955-2000? I think Pop and Hip-hop/rap are most popular now. so sad.
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DavidSmith98
Jazz was a museum piece before Wynton. Fusion took it off the map - jazz hasn't been competitive for "most popular music genre" status since Kind Of Blue. People like Herbie Hancock, good as he is, haven't dictated popular culture or reflected the times in the same way that Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman or Louis Armstrong did.
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bonzoWhale
How is Marsalis not innovative? Granted, he goes back to basics, but he takes the classics beyond that. Just look at the Vitoria Suite, what a way to merge two cultures musically! Not to mention what they did live in those concerts, drawing from several North and South American cultures to do something quite unique... That's definitely some serious innovation.
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spincat
It's interesting what SoulJazzsterInc has said that there are the innovators and the classicists who defend the tradition. He strongly defends the innovation and ironically it is what makes him a traditional guy simply because he defends an OLDER/original innovation (of Jazz) while rejecting a lot of newer ones. Also, I agree about his smug character. It's like he's the guy you don't want to argue with because it'll ruin your weekend completely. P.S. Great musician, nevertheless and love listening to him (play).
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Marcelo_Santh
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NuttersaurusRex
"Couldn't Metallica be jazz? No. Metallica is rock. it is straight eighths." So is the main riff of The Four Horsemen jazz then? It's got a swing feel. What about latin jazz, and bossa nova? It's impossible to set an exact definition for any genre because there's always exceptions, you just know what it is when you hear it. Besides, genres are really just ways of describing certain sounds and musical movements, not something one should aspire to fit inside the confines of. The guy's a hell of a player and has done a lot for jazz but he is also really strict in what constitutes jazz, and that really limits one's creativity. Establishing borders isn't what causes music to progress.
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esotericexcuse
Street Date interviewed Wynton Marsalis on his new release with Willie Nelson, "Here We Go Again: Celebrating the Genius of Ray Charles" Check it out ! http://streetdate.radio.com/2011/03/29/street-date-interviews-wynton-marsalis-for-his-release-with-willie-nelson-norah-jones-a-tribute-to-ray-charles/
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MAMMAAIUTO
I'm a swedish girl, 22 years old, and I assure you that when Mr. Marsalis comes to sweden he will get pussy , swedish pussy. And that is rare, where not hoes, just almost.
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jazzaficiando
Well, as Mr. Marsalis stands, he doesn't believe that straight eighths are jazz. He defines swing as being jazz, and you know, I agree with him there. When it switched to straight eighths, it changed. So listening to all the modern music, what do we define as jazz? Couldn't Metallica be jazz? No. Metallica is rock. it is straight eighths. Just because a sax and a trumpet play in a rap chart doesn't mean it's jazz. Just because someone improvises in a chart, don't mean its swing. I listen to a Latin chart with Latin solos and it is a Latin chart. I listen to Birdland and I hear a funk chart with funk solos. I listen to Ornithology and I hear a jazz chart with jazz solos. Without proper definition, jazz becomes an umbrella for every style of music, and when I go to Myspace to find jazz artists, all I find are funk artists. Wynton is an incredible musician. He wants to preserve jazz. He never says those other styles are wrong, he just separates them and plays great music
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fleadilla
i don't care if he played with jesus let alone blakey. miles knew the score from the moment he laid eyes on him. this guy had a hand in trying to remove a portion of jazz history with ken burns, whether deliberate or not. the documentary is a big deal. how many highschool students in band class see any number of these series every year? electric jazz was a major phenomenon in the evolution of jazz, let alone for all music! it changed everything. especially rock music. spend all that time goin nuts about the big 3 for like a billion hours and don't give electric but like a weak 30 minute segment? unacceptable with what a big responsibility and opportunity they had with pbs. so much history and art will remain hidden beyond the light of those who they wanted to shine the brightest, but weren't the end all to jazz. not by a longshot. many who should've got their props didn't and it's a shame that they could've - but won't. they could've easily did 3 hours focused on electric. easily...
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jenkramer67
can't wait to hear Wynton's new Swing Symphony composition with the Berliner Philharmoniker and the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra on June 10! tuning in online for the live performance - yay!
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LucyJohns0303
Check out this performance- Wynton Marsalis at The Lincoln Center. It's great! http://www.classicaltv.com/v802/jazz/willie-nelson-and-wynton-marsalis-at-lincoln-center
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Philmaz136
I'm glad Wynton has stopped preaching his subjective view of the jazz tradition.
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LondonLouis
I've been repeating myself. Thanks to the comments on my earlier shout along these lines. My ambivalence just hasn't gone away. (I do accept that he's been a great proselytiser for jazz).
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LondonLouis
Does Wynton ever really let his hair down? So much of his work sounds emotionally dry, despite the great technique. Is Cherokee the closest he comes to out and out excitement?
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