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Valaya
I think he wrote about it in "Man and His Symbols", not about music per se, but about art, how art is born in the unconscious, especially art made by those whom the world of art recognized as forerunners of genres. Hence my little remark on music (let's take Emperor as an example - the guys who created the best of Black Metal albums were teenagers - they MUST have been touched by the Divine ;D ). :) In esoterics, all art is considered to be originated in the same place that intuition and creativity occupies, i.e. the unconscious. I am interested most in archetypes and the idea of synchronicity, and I haven't read all that he wrote just yet - it's a long process getting to know his works :)
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vixen
that's a great insight! (: i especially love the notion of art being touched by the divine or created for divine purposes, such as the ancient Greeks sculpting statues as a sign of worship for their gods and goddesses, for example. while this example clearly can't be applied in the modern era, we still see art being created in the image of nearly divine abstractions, ideals and lovers. art originates from an intangible impulse that i would say has a divine energy to it – thus, as you said, born in the unconscious. <3
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Valaya
I've recently watched a video on the song by Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit" in which a professional takes the melody and musical "instrumentaria" apart and proves how greatly this piece was written and composed and he says "I know you will say 'Cobain didn't know what he was doing when composing it' and that's true, it was his intuition! It was great musical intuition at play here'. Yes, the unconscious, the divine energy, as you said. :) There are a lot of songs like that, or even whole albums. I used to listen to a lot of metal, thrash, death, black, power, you name it, and a lot of the early albums by those bands are raw but already great, well composed and those guys were usually in their teens or very early twenties when their albums were being created. How did they know how to create albums that never get old? Great musical intuition, the magic of the uncoscious.
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kevinspencer
Saw you listen to Edge Of Dawn and remembered how much I love Black Heart (Beta). And of course then back down the Seabound rabbit hole this week. It’s been years since I listened to them.
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Valaya
Yeah, I love Frank Spinath's vocal and lyrics that he writes for the songs. But it seems that now he's more focused on his career in academia rather than making music. I do that too - listening to a band because I've just remembered I haven't given them a listen for quite a while and then deciding to get to his or her other projects or all the albums. You have more than half a million scrobbles! Wow! Congratulations!
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kevinspencer
Oh wow I didn’t know he’d focused on academia. You’re right his voice is iconic. I think that’s what hooked me. Torn and Avalost from No Sleep Demon are just so good.
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Valaya
The voice and the sound, too. I also like his other projects, which are Ghost & Writer (disbanded) and Lionehearts. He is a very versatile musician and his voice has this delicate hue, I don't know how to call it. What I look for in synthpop music is the melody and the male vocals :) And Frank Spinath's voice and his music have definitely lived up to my expectations. :)
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Valaya
New Year, new month, new (to me) albums! January was featuring: FALL SHOCK "Interior" - I hadn't been listening to this sound for a long time, had missed many bands like this one, a good album, not the best though; DRAB MAJESTY "Careless" - so far my DM's least favorite of the ones I got to listen to, but I'm not saying it's bad, not at all; SOLITARY EXPERIMENTS "Transcendent" CD1 - the band still delivers good music, if you wish for nice dancey melodies, you'll get them on the album. So the sound of January is "Transcendent".
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Valaya
A short summary of the charts for 2023. The first half of the year was so-so, with the highlight of Host's "IX". I mostly listened to stuff from my past last winter and spring. The second half was fun, though. Beginning with Amduscia's "From Abuse to Apostasy", to which I got a little addicted, through the Iris, MCC, and Drab Majesty albums (and OUL!), ending with a phenomenal black metal album by Emperor. No plans as for the future patterns in listening, but the line of bands and albums to discover is veeeery long.
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Valaya
December was all about my "year playlist" and the albums: ABSURD MINDS "Gravitas" - new stuff from them, same ol', DRAB MAJESTY "Modern Mirror" - great songs, a few gems, nice feel as if floating, still discovering their discography. EMPEROR "In the Nightime Eclipse" - a blast from the past (well, no :P), it must have been inspired by the Unconscious, tru kvlt, guitars, vocals, keyboards, all makes a genuine black metal symphony. TEMPERS "Services" - finally a female vocal with some character. SONOIO "Fine" - you can hear darkwave NIN all the way, which is great. The Winner is... EMPEROR. Listening to BM after thirty years is different: emotionless to the aura of evil and satan but still this music is awe-inspiring.
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kevinspencer
How did I miss that Drab Majesty released a new album in 2023? I think I've got some catching up to do.
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kevinspencer
Using the shoutbox as a listening log is a great idea actually. Looking forward to reading them.
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Valaya
The best albums of October and November '23: IRIS "Six" - their last album, I love the vocal; THE CURE "Head on the Door" - relistening, good, but no feelings attached. KMFDM "Adios" - a blast from the past, still awesome; HOLYGRAM "Modern Cults" - new to me, nice gothic and darkwave feel; NEUROTECH "Ave Neptun" - ah, a lot of space in my heart for Wulf's music; DRAB MAJESTY "The Demonstration" - a very interesting project, a plan to listen to their discography, i wonder if every album is as good; OUL "Antipode" - a darkwave project, new to me, not very popular, but MAN, I LOVE IT. The Winner is OUL. Hope this guy makes a new album soon, as promised. And now for something completely different...
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Quorthon would always say one thing in an interview for a 'zine to disavow it in another. He was secretive, especially as far as Boss was concerned, and in the '90s I believed Boss was Quorthon's uncle or brother because there were rumors that Boss was his family member. Nobody would have said back then that Boss was actually Quorthon's dad (and some people claimed that Boss was Quorthon himself). Now, some official sources say that Quorthon died/was found dead on June 3rd, some other, also official sources, claim June7th, in the album-biography it says June 6th. So even after his death, you can't even say for sure when exactly he died.
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Sylvaestein
Hallo! Thank you for following too. Perfect music archive! Greetings from Deutschland :)
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isitbeer30yet
Yes, we usually play once a week. Various games, but typiclly Xwing Miniatures Game. It's pretty expensive consiedring you can buy damn near any ship in the star wars universe to use in the game... but it is a fun strategy game. I host a poker game once a month. The game you mentioned sounds really interesting to me. It sounds fun, but I probably wouldn't understand some of the humor... not being from there.
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isitbeer30yet
We also play Dixit from time to time. Depending on your group, it can be really challenging. Gives you a chance to be really creative and the artwork on the cards is really interesting.
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isitbeer30yet
Well, who knows what will pop up from my library.. ;) I was juuuust getting ready to log off. I've got a board game with my brother in law planned for this evening. Cheers! I'll get back with you.
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Valaya
The social aspect of the site is gone for good. I've noticed people are still discussing music on band's pages, but it's kinda problematic in technical terms to keep up with those posts. For me it's gonna be 15 years of scrobbling soon, and I haven't missed even one year. We both deserve a Scrobbling Cup for patience, motivation and perseverance, despite being put a wrench in the works. Yeah, one year - that's a long time. Who would have thought last year that there would be missiles falling a few miles beyond our eastern border.
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isitbeer30yet
I know, which is one of the reasons I wanted to touch base with you. I'm not happy about that situation, but I am happy that Ukraine is regaining ground. Putin has himself in a pickle. I hope one day we can learn from mistakes instead of repeating them. Preferably before the Earth is completely mismanaged and ruined. I could go on about my country and some of the stupidity and self centeredness we have here for days. Incapability to see beyond one's self is a huge problem. It's disturbing. Don't know what you're listening to these days, but there's a ton of new stuff out there.
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Valaya
But I think you live in a great country, in spite of some stupidity and glitches in the system. It can always be better, true. My country is considered a little rebel in the European Union, but thanks to this approach we have survived as a state a thousand years although placed between two hungry for land and money giants... We have over 2 mln refugees from Ukraine now and have received hardly any funds from the EU to cover the costs. As a taxpayer, I am not happy about that, but when I look at photos and videos from the bombed cities and villages, I start to think "Well, it could have been my country, too, these could be Polish places, it all looks similar - architecture, streets, bridges, nature". I use Spotify and I really consider this a good platform. They offer a lot of possibilities for Premium, and there are some more ways of finding new sounds, but they are not exposed.
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isitbeer30yet
HI there S! Check out Clutch - The Weathermaker Vault Sereies, Vol. 1. I kinda like these guys
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Valaya
Hey, thanks. I gave it a listen, kinda mixture of Black Sabbath, blues, rock'n'roll, maybe Led Zeppelin, Hawkwind, and definitely some other stuff. I saw the other day that you'd listened to Edge of Sanity. Well, I departed from death metal some 20 years ago, but somehow decided to revisit and check how I like this now. And I do like it more than I expected.
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isitbeer30yet
LOL, the summer was hot but super eventful. Took a nice long vacation in July, got my pool relined, had my first wreck (I guess not bad considering I turn 50 n Oct)... which led to a new car purchase; did some remodeling in one of my bathrooms. We have the full seasons here, unlike a state like Montana where you have winter and then 2 months of summer... anyway the point is, I am ready for autumn to set in. Unfortunately for New Orleans and the folks in Louisiana, they just got hammered by a hurricane so I suppose I have no right to complain about hot weather. I hope you had a good summer. I didn't visit last.fm for months.. I am just now starting to listen more again.
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Valaya
Sorry to hear about the wreck. I had a good summer, too, I managed to do some hiking in the mountains and got a chance to visit a few peaks in the Polish High Tatras. Eight days and 130km on foot in the mountains.The rest was spent preparing for those hikes by walking and running. Now I'm watching a vlog made by a Polish guy who's traveling in a campervan and visiting the US national parks in the West. Out of those few he has visited so far, I liked the Glacier NP best. It's absolutely stunning! I am here on Last everyday, mainly to ban bots that want to follow my library, I am not ready for the fall, not yet. I used to be a fan of the season, but the older I get, the more I like spring and summer.
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isitbeer30yet
Hey, thanks for the reco. I listened to that album a couple of times. Have a good weekend!
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Valaya
I've listened to it 5 times, but it seems it's not enough. After the first time I said "It's okay". Then, after the third time I decided it's quite interesting and each song is different and there is some specific feel to each of them. Now I'm going through it the fifth time and it sounds very good to me. No wonder, so many talented musicicans in this project. But I recognize Dave Gahan only. ;-)
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isitbeer30yet
I love playing Valaya's mix. When I am tired of looking or just want a good station without question... I play Valaya's mix ;)
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isitbeer30yet
Hmm, she does have good taste ;) Most of the time I just let it roll in the background so I'm not focusing on the particular artists... since I use another computer for work. Yeah I can let your mix run for hours though.
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isitbeer30yet
Another lockdown? Geez... things are getting better here, about half of my state has been vaccinated now. Spring is coming, Im just looking forward to working in my garden again.
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Looks like they have enabled the ability to make playlists again. That was enough to get me to go pro. I use playlists for multiple reasons.. used to have dozens of them. Maybe this is a start in the right direction? I sure hope more features come back. Cheers!
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Yuk, more snow? I'm not jealous. After the tundra episode, it has gotten fairly warm here. Daffodils and crocus are coming up. So are tulips. I still like fall the most but I was born in October. Must have something to do with it. I think this summer, we are just going to drive down to South Padre in Texas and enjoy the beach for a while. I'm ready for a vacation from this house. With that said, I still like working from home better than commuting to work every day.
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Valaya
In March you can expect everything here: snow in the morning, warmth in the afternoon, and then glaze at night. The weather is quite unpredictable. It also can be the month of flowers you mentioned, but it all depends on the weather. My birthday is in January and I am not a fan of winter. Have a good weekend! I work six days a week, so no weekends off for me.
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isitbeer30yet
Hi S! I hope you are navigating all of the covid BS ok. Check out Nation of Language sometime when you have nothing better to do ;) They have an 80's vibe that is undeniable. I know it sn't your typical, but I though of you when I heard The Wall and I. Have a good day!
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Valaya
My country is polarized too. People rarely pay attention to facts, and everyday they are fed misinformation, opinions, and factoids and the most important news is hard to find, because the focus of the media is elsewhere - the money. Show something that will evoke strong emotion, and there'll be a lot of views of the commercials placed on that very page, which means profits for the media company in the long run, and for the user - fear, confusion, sadness, anxiety, rarely positive feelings. I love walking and running and I use my smartphone and Spotify for listening to music while e.g. walking in the city. I can also listen to music at home from my CDs and Spotify, too, using speakers. I never had an iPod, just a simple mp3 player without the internet facility. I teach at the university that is nature sciences oriented, so I deal with the subject of pollution pretty often. Afforestation and reforestation is strong in Poland, fortunately.
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isitbeer30yet
Thanks for the recommendations, so far I have listened to Actors and did not have any plays from them I do not believe. I will listen through their full track list but I liked what I heard from the 17 or so plays I have listened to so far. Concerning the media, it's the same here as I'm sure you know. The two main parties each have certain media outlets and they want to control the media. Each party will deny they are doing so but it is more than obvious how much the media controls the population with fear mongering and false or half-truth information. They obviously get their marching orders from somewhere because they are well organized with the message they decide to present each day. Each newcast parroting one-another and emphasizing certain terms and subjects, repeating over and over. I'm not sure I would want to be bornin today's society. The poor kids have their electronic devices so entwined into their daily lives... they are slaves to the notification tone.
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Valaya
You're welcome! Not sure if I understand the U.S.A anymore, to be honest, as far as cultural changes are concerned. We don't have the best PR in the Western world (the media say we are an "alt-right" country, haha, what a joke), but surprisingly more and more people are coming here from the West and want to stay and live here. There are a lot of new citizens from Ukraine and Russia, too. And Poles are coming back from abroad as well. Of course, we have been hit hard by the "pandemic" in the economic sense. With the media and the division you described, it is the same here, between the left and the right, but it's like a lighter version of what it's like in your country. As for devices, yes, my students have to check immediately their phones after they hear the tone. I always encourage them not to do that for 60 minutes and say "Reward yourselves if you manage that task". And they say they can't refrain themselves from checking - "Too difficult, ma'am".
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isitbeer30yet
You might like Crooked Colors... try the track Perfect Run. It starts slow so give it a chance ;)
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Nah, my nine year old self will just follow you and your friends around and pester you everywhere you go. LOL
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isitbeer30yet
LOL :D this is the exact age difference between me and my sister... sooo I may have pestered her a time or two ;) Thanks for the Torul recommendation, you have me listening to them now! I plan on listening to more Hedringarna today, I listened to a couple of tracks last night and was interested to hear more. I love Wardruna, a similar sound.
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In Poland it's against the law to show breasts in public. You can get fined or even arrested if there is at least one witness who claims to have been scandalized by those naked boobs. Thanks for City Calm Down, I listened to them today, a good marriage of The Cure, U2, The Church, and something else. Nice music!
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isitbeer30yet
Cool, I'm glad you liked. I pinched Cryo from your library ;) The sound is perfect for my mood this morning. That was a new add to my library - double bonus!!
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Valaya
He released a new album this year, I like half of it, a few initial songs can be skipped with no regret. What was he thinking, ha, ha. I need to make a list for my runs. I usually listen to The Best Of from this year at random. And the moment I need something fast that would help me keep the pace, I get three sloooow tracks in a row. As if they knew I wanted something else! ;-)
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Well, I can't say I don't blame you - it's hard to get me to open another acct too. Summer has been incredible. The weather for the most part has been fairly mild. I renovated all of the flooring in the house and the cabinetry in the kitchen as well as added some more garden space to my property. The last few months have been very busy/productive for me. How are things on your side of the pond?
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Valaya
I see you had a lot of work around the house! Well, things here have been... adventurous. I did some things for the first time: climbed three mountains that are over 2000m (with chain sections), went on a mountain hike alone (was afraid of bears, but oh well), was on a mountain with lightning striking 300m away from me (with my thunderstorm phobia, you can imagine how s*t scared I was). Also, did some deadlifting for the first time and did a tarot reading for somebody for the first time . I also have plans for the fall to do something for the first time, ha, ha. ;-) As for VK, you know, I used to have an account there a few years ago, but something put me off. I use Spotify on my phone usually, but occasionally I use the Last fm radio (mostly to see if it's working ;-) ).
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Hmm, spring shows up on your doorstep... and winter is back here (I shouldn't have said anything about opening the pool). It has been colder the last week or so than it was in February. My azalea blooms are ruined from freeze. Oo
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isitbeer30yet
Have a good weekend, S! I'm considering opening my pool but I should probably be patient for another couple of weeks. Cheers!
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isitbeer30yet
Hmmm, yes I was like that too before I started my acct with Last.fm in 2010. Only the genre I frequented was classic rock/heavy metal. Now you wouldn't even imagine I listened to such tracks by reviewing my recent tracks. No-no bands are where it's at for me now ;) Things change. If you love music, it is inevitable that boundaries will expand... especially with exposure to sites like this.
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Right on, I feel the same way. True "pop" to me has to be played on the radio, hence the "pop". But that sound... can't be mistaken. I'm not a fan of mainstream pop but I do listen to some "poppy" sounding stuff on occasion. Heh
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Yeah, I hear ya about Fever Ray. It's funny because I was intending to listen to her old album ;) You've got me interested in Jonna Lee's new album though... I'll take a listen to that next. Parralox can be poppish too. They are hit or miss.
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It was almost surreal sometimes. Qntal was interesting - I'll have to revisit. Could not listen to it as loud as I wanted. Her voice is nice. UNKLE has some good albums and some range so maybe you will like. I think I'll play a little Fever Ray this morning...
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You have me curious about Qntal. I'll be listening to them later... their album artwork sort of reminds me of Wardruna
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She's just one of those people that have "it" musically. She plays viola and the harp as well. She's good on the keyboard but doesn't consider that to be a strong point. She's been playing about 15 years too. I remember coming home to her playing about a 7' tall harp. The sound coming from upstairs was heavenly.
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She is a violinist. Very creative, she plays with the Signature Symphony in Tulsa but gets most of her work through private and faith based gigs. I have seen "some" of Jonna's videos but not many. I can't watch them at work. My favorite track on Bounty is "o".
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Yeah, I agree with everything you've said about Jonna. My daughter is a professional musician and I introduced her to iamamiwhoami a couple of months ago... she is hooked. We both like experimental/electronic/art pop - whatever ;) There are quite a few good similar artists but she is the best. Yes, same here about Fever Ray. I have more plays from Fever Ray but lately Jonna is coming on strong. They are both really talented. You might like UNKLE. UNKLE has a track with Bjork that is great.
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I'd like to see Poland, and lots of other countries in Europe as well. I just want to explore what's out there. I'm getting ready to head home. Have a great weekend!
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Snow? Yeah, that sucks. My front yard looks like it snowed.... but the white comes from flower petals raining off of my callery pear tree ;) I can't believe it's almost April. Today is my last day of work this week. I'm looking forward to an extended weekend. I didn't realize there were benefits to being a subscriber. I'm guessing those benefits are not substantial enough to make it worth even being a subscriber. Time to turn on the music :)
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Hey, it's good to hear they are "working" on this site though. I had just assumed that what you see is what you get at this point. I would welcome some social improvements - the return of group interaction would be nice. You are right though, if they are working on it, they are moving at a snails pace. I still do not have a facebook acct. I'm OK with that ;) So the weather here has been rainy and cool. Typical early springtime in OKLA... the plants are exploding all over the place right now. Very colorful. I think my winter coat can be put away for a while.
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Hi S :) Wow, I can't believe how time flies. It's sad about the social aspect of LFM, a few of those years were pretty golden. I miss some of the people I got to know and have all but disappeared now. So Easter is upon us again... I don't intend to be silent, I just forget there are actually a few people that will still interact on LFM. You know I am always on this site listening while working. I have found that most of the shouts I leave now go unanswered so I just don't leave many any more. I am doing well though.
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Ah yes, I understand completely. My wife has the same concerns for the same reasons. As for me, I still don't even have a fb account. Personally I can't stand seeing people everywhere with their faces in their phones. I hate it. Things are well in my neck of the woods... looking forward to this Easter weekend. Cheers!
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Well there's not much I can do about it except preventative measures for next time. Yes there was one item in particular I am not happy about losing. As far as music discovery... LOL yeah, I'm more like one band an hour. If I like what I hear they will receive lots of plays if not, I'll move on to something else. I listen to albums each day however there is a point each day where I generate playlists from songs I like in the effort to find other artists with similar sound.
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Hi S! Yeah, you know I'm always looking for new music. Her stuff was pretty folky in nature. I'm well but someone broke into my garage last Thursday so I had to make some upgrades on my home security over the weekend. Winter break eh? I'm beginning to wonder if we are going to have a winter here in Oklahoma at all this year. Oo Well, enjoy your break and have a good week!
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