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Ilya_Petrovec
Well, you know better. You're probably an expert on this, since you listen to grindcore.
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RhubarbRhubarbR
just rambling here for the sake of it but idk how to feel about this genre honestly. more specifically about the name in contrast with the sound and the sound evolution of genres. most of the popular stuff is literally just pop-rock yet it shares a genre with music that actually sounds punk. like you can listen to a "pop-punk" song that's TECHNICALLY "pop-punk" and then listen to another "pop-punk" song that sounds COMPLETELY different. I guess the internal conflict comes from the fact that there's no subgenre dividing these kind of songs. it also comes from the fact that "punk" is attached to the name yet none of it sounds like punk in the SLIGHTEST. the "punk to pop sound" ratios in some of these songs can wildly vary which throws me off. at the end of the day it really just comes down to whether they wanna make upbeat pop-rock/emo-pop/whatever or slightly (and I do mean SLIGHTLY) more poppy punk. and then it all goes under the same sub-genre. i will go in circles about this forever
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revive-suburbia
I came to praise Twin Atlantic who just released the best pop punk record of this decade for me /o/
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daphinepetshop
i genuinely do not care what classifies as what i just want to listen to good music. waterparks🗣️🗣️
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L57NT
I believe pop punk is often misunderstood, not just in the 21st century when it became mixed with emo-pop, but already since the 90's. Among the most popular so-called Californian-sounding pop punk bands, Green Day were probably the only consistently pure pop-punk, being similar to Generation X, The Rezillos, The Vapors, The Undertones, etc, i. e. melodic 70's punk that drew a lot from the 60's surf and beat music, bordering on power pop (and sometimes being considered a part of power pop genre back then). On the other hand, early blink-182, NOFX and The Offspring had a lot of the 80s hardcore and crossover elements in their DNA, thanks to the earlier work of The Vandals, Bad Religion, Descendents, and others. Many bands like these were actually part-time (or full-time) skate punk or melodic hardcore bands. Despite the overlapping with pop punk, these genres are far from the same. 'Dookie' and 'Cheshire Cat' are vastly different, if you think about it.
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Tsuki11037
they say emo pop is actually pop punk so ima tag all of american idiot as emo fuck it
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hauntedfairy
save the top albums oh my god why is mgk there twice and why is he above folie a deux
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DomDizzler
Early 90's pop punk is the best era in my opinion. Mostly free of gimmicks and the defining "sound" of pop punk was just punk bands doing whatever melodic shit they wanted to do. It got a bit messy in the late 90s and early 2000's
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DomDizzler
True! That stuff is good, but for me personally though I prefer the early east bay scene with bands like Jawbreaker, (early) Green Day and even some of the ska punk bands like Operation Ivy. I think the writing and the musicianship at that time was a cut above some of the later pop punk bands, obviously with exceptions.
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PolygonWindows
Music that makes me want to turn my hair into a red mohawk and jump during a garden party in the suburbs
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asocialfairy
The dichotomy between 2000s pop-punk and 2010s pop-punk is so distinct that whenever people say they’re into pop punk, I wonder if they mean the goofy, childish fun version of the early 2000s or the 2010s hardcore- and emo-inflected variant…I personally like both, though! And then there’s emo-pop—Fall Out Boy, MCR, early Panic! which bang HARD and raised me in my first emo phase! lol 🤘
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TarantulaCRAZY
i like Fall Out Boy and All Time Low best. (in pop\punk any way) (pls no cursing😒😒😒😒😒😬
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ChaosDevin
Good to listen to when I don't feel like listening to metal, rap or whatever else. Many feel good artists in pop punk.
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StupidMetalhead
I never thought that bands like Sum 41, Offspring and Simple Plan would cease to be considered mainstream for me and would be strictly nostalgic. It seems that when I turn 40 or 50, I will also be getting a lot of nostalgia from deathcore or modern metal, lol.
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ChaosDevin
I like some bands tagged with pop punk, shockingly. Hey, metalheads aren't supposed to like this! Well I can and I have a friend who is a fellow metalhead who likes blink-182.
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L57NT
On second thought, I think I get your statement as well, at least if considering mid-90's skate punk stuff. As I remember, it definitely had kinda metallic palm-muted guitar work, perhaps borrowing from crossover thrash, and purely punkish riffs could be compared with tremolo picking in this context, lol. Interesting.
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StupidMetalhead
Should not? Lol. Before getting into metal, I mainly listened to pop punk and melodic metalcore. This is the music of my childhood and I always listen to Sum 41 or Atreyu when I need nostalgia or have bad mood.
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