I guess you are talking about the Doom band because you like the Skram band. But in a neutral opinion, both bands are a rip off then, because both lack of originality and both sound the same as plenty other bands of their own music genres. Imo, there are a lot bands of Screamo and Doom Metal that sound better than the Orchid's ones. Anyway, that was not the main point of my first comment.
"because both lack of originality and both sound the same as plenty other bands of their own music genres". i dont know that much bands that capture the vibe, energy and quality level of screamo orchid, also they were some kind of pioneers. so if the stoner orchid is a sabbath rip off, the screamo band is the sabbath of their genre. nvm tho.
Every genre of music has some precursor but that doesn't make them the gods while they are worse than many new bands. It's childish thinking. However there are better bands that were pioneers before Orchid skram band, some examples are: Portraits of Past, Heroin, Mohinder, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Swing Kids, I Hate Myself, etc.
ironiy is, that other orchid band that makes all those old metal farts appear here is suffering from the fact their genre has such a band as well, and they are just a clone of that band. tho i think newer screamo is very vital and worth a try too. recommend i hate sex and cassus, but the full list would be long.