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BoctorPink
Really looking forward to "Pink Elephant" AF are still one of my favourite bands of all time after all these years.
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SpecterLitt
i've decided i hate these guys again bc i found out earlier they named their upcoming album THE SAME AS MINE. i am annoyed as all hell.
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sleepysquad
Sexual misconduct allegations: According to a Pitchfork article published on August 27, 2022, four individuals have accused Butler of sexual misconduct, with some saying he initially contacted them on social media. Butler said all contact with the accusers was consensual, and he denies all allegations of misconduct. In a statement to Pitchfork, a representative for Butler acknowledged he had sexual interactions with each of them, but said they were not initiated by him and were consensual. Chassagne corroborated his statements. On November 22, 2022, Pitchfork published a follow-up article detailing Butler's manipulative interactions towards a fifth person. These interactions were described by the individual as "Emotionally abusive, manipulative, toxic, and using his power dynamic to exploit my body at times that were convenient for him."
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pica-hudsonia
In Canada, "The Courts recognize that Emotional or Psychological Abuse is a pattern of behaviour where a person uses words or actions to control, frighten or isolate someone or take away their self-respect... Some forms of emotional abuse that are criminal in and of themselves include: Direct threats to harm a person, a child or their family, and; Criminal harassment such as stalking, repeated contact or following a person." https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/fv-vf/about-apropos.html#emo
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rodmk92
They blew it with Reflektor. After winning the Grammy they were supposed to make their big leap into the mainstream. Like U2 with The Joshua Tree or R.E.M. with Out of Time. Maybe not another masterpiece but definitely something a little bit more accesible. In hindsight, it's obvious that a double album with that artwork, filled with their weakest stuff up to that point wasn't going to do much. The title track and Afterlife are the only songs worth keeping. It's quite sad to see how much they've fallen since. They were alongside Radiohead, Kanye and I guess The White Stripes the artists that were respected by pretty much every publication and site during the the first decade of this century. And now they have kind of vanished from those places. Win's "adventures" certainly didn't help. Those first 3 albums will remain untouchable though.
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LordFindus
lol pretty sure it's not about polyamory but the (sadly various) sexual misconduct allegations
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pica-hudsonia
Yeah, the ickiness of the situation has nothing to do with the polyamory. It's the dubious consent/sexual misconduct, and the way the band handled the PR. Unfortunately, dubcon and the like is triggering for many folk, including myself as I sadly found out. Reading the original P4k story gave me flashbacks to various negative violating interactions I've had; now I associate those memories with their music in a visceral, which sucks so fucking much because I otherwise love this band.
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harvitek
Впечатляет, как (со стороны) легко им всё удавалось 10 лет и как легко они же после сдулись. Как будто были предназначены для конкретного времени, которое отлично зафиксировали (и которое я очень люблю, поэтому и всё до Reflektor'a включительно нареканий не вызывает, но ностальгическая вкусовщина тут неизбежна). Про недокэнселлинг даже начинать не буду, настолько он неуклюжий и настолько о нём мало внятной информации. Кажется, что эта история тоже скорее очень метко отражает, насколько группа была на волне и насколько скисла после — и будто бы недовольство бывших индюшатных почитателей, это во многом претензия не этического, а эстетического характера ("кем вы стали?!?!?!"). А этическое, как часто бывает, добавилось до кучи.
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Elektricblue
o show no lollapalooza brasil foi muito emocionante, A Regine me abraçou, foi lindo.
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SpecterLitt
low-key Arcade Fire's best work, and by Arcade Fire I mean Will Butler & Owen Pallett
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Dalamar8
Хоть немного в положительном ключе могу отметить разве что Neon Bible, по саунду он действительно выделяется среди всего остального, да и насколько могу судить, лайвы тоже были неплохими. С учетом этого делаю вывод, что отправной точкой для новых свершений этот альбом так и не стал лишь по причине творческой импотенции, наблюдавшейся от релиза к релизу,а поэтому и все эти разговоры, с какого момента был совершен поворот не туда, не особо интересны, тут и думать нечего, подобного проходняка на инди-сцене последних двух десятилетий было до хрена и больше, да и более хорошей индюшатины тоже было выпущено вдоволь.
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SpecterLitt
no, unfortunately; they do have Reflektor which is the record they were making alongside the soundtrack.
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A_Raging_Bull
The vitality and youthful abandon of Funeral will always appeal to those traumatized by the reality of aging and death, but we free spirits know it wasn't until Neon Bible that they became a band.
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No estoy soportando maldito win que te costaba mantener el pilin en el pantalón 🤬🤬😭
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A_Raging_Bull
Think the consensus is that the severity of the accusations leveled at Win do not rise to the level of perpetual moral indignation at their continued existence, so happy vibes should return to touring in due course.
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heartoffiction
I mean, bands get fully sued and convicted of harming minors and still continue to perform, so I don't see why a few awkward situations with a handful of 20-year-olds would be a reason to end a career.
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heartoffiction
I saw them twice on WE tour, the Seattle show was pretty low energy and empty, but Vancouver, Canada went all out for them! The people on the floor still had a blast.
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