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jackanory
its kind of funny that people equate people who eat meat and drink with posing. not really the case. i eat meat and drink and i'm happy to stand by those decisions and i think the fact that i do both those things affected no one else at the festival in a negative way. diversity is what makes hardcore and punk so interesting, and it's idiotic to think that a lifestyle choice one way or the other can ruin a festival for another person. i don't really know who you mean by 'big name' either, and deciding that liking have heart or someone makes you irresponsible (not really the case when you consider their 'message') whereas fall of efrafa means everyone is nice and caring is just stupid. you get arseholes in all walks of life, to think otherwise is ridiculous. in conclusion, yes trashing the site, stealing and dropping rubbish sucks, but to attribute this to one band, or to a particular type of 'punk/hardcore' kid is naive and stupid and does more harm than good.
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Ethaniel_
100% agree, famous bands appeal to poseurs and attract them. And perhaps some limitations would help, like Cry me a river fest is limited to 250 people, which is just enough to fit into a tent and the lineup makes pretty sure no uninterested people will get there. Of course I'm not asking to limit it to 250, that's pretty insane, but it's high time for fluff organizators to decide whether they want the biggest hardcore camp in middle europe or the best one.
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truemmergemuet
first time on fluff and also some wonderful memories + strange feelings. politically best organiced hardcore-festival i ever was at: no hard alc, only vegan food, d.i.y. - but also people only consuming and trashing the space. no participation or simply care for the festival/the other people. so good intention but not much that came back to the organizers... i knew before which bands would be great and they were (tesa, june paik, fall of efrafa). together, dakhma, zann and some other also ruled. but i can't understand why there are these big name bands...wonderful idea to get all the meat eating, drinking and posing people (like on all the "normal" hc-shows)...nevertheless still a great festival and i hope the political beliefs will stay at fluff!
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nina_vs_bass
I had a great time at Fluff. But I recognized a lot posing people there. Showing what they are, "how hardcore they are", looking nasty at you, coz you are not tattooed or not having about ten piercings in your face, or while you are drinking beer (also if it's non alcoholic...). But i had a lot of fun. I saw great bands for ex. Press Gang, Dead Vows, Rise & Fall, AYS, Tackleberry, Death is not glamorous, ZANN ( !), Kingdom, etc... We met a lot of people, great food, good music, nice shirts, bags, tapes, vinyls. What nerved me a bit was this mass of photographers. Everywhere huge cameras on stage and in front of. everywhere. I hope Fluff is not getting bigger.
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all_will_suffer
It's the worst fluff fest i've been to, comparing to 2006 -2007 . First of all to much drunk dumbfucks, smelly bum looking crusties with poor dogs,stupid fucks with beer in the pit, alot of garbage everywhere. Smokin weed and eating meat at fluff fest?? even that shit took place... Too much fags who don't give fuck about the bands and their message, all thay do is mindless stage dives, pushmoshing with beer , that's not a fuckin' nu metal gig/ But after all there were pretty cool bands that worth it: Trial and Have Heart just WOW! Rise and Fall,Shipwreck,Kingdom,xRepresentx,Ray,AYS,The Effort,To Kill,DING,Outrage and Wait in Vain,fall of efrafa made my day)
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jackanory
I had a great time. people who mention rubbish and thieves, yeah it sucks, but having been to Reading, this seemed like paradise. Yes the few did to an extent ruin it for the many, but at least it was only a small minority. Victims ruled. I had a great time, and for a DIY festival i thought it put the larger festivals to shame.
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Ethaniel_
Well, this was my first time at the fluff, however, it's left me with pretty strange feelings. Yeah, the bands were great, as was the entire lineup, but I expected a bit more. Tent robberies; guys in a nearby tent, all wearing t-shirt of sxe bands, but getting high every now and then, consequently going to see their favourite bands. Mindless mosh at Have Heart, where I saw a guy jumping into the crowd with legs in the front and kicking people in their heads, girl that has fallen down and it took like 30 for anybody to notice and pull he out of the moshpit, guy with broken nose, myself kicked in the eye and I even couldn't get out of the moshpit, coz those fuckheads kept pushing me back in there.. Have heart, but don't forget to use your brain. Anyway, too many sXe macho kids for me. I'll decide whether to come or not after seeing the next years line up. Hardcore isn't as sincere as it used to be and I find more sincerity in post-hardcore.
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6lag
Have Heart: greatest last european show! <3 F*ckin awesome fest! Особенно впечатлили Trial, June Paik, Fall Of Efrafa, Wait In Wain, ну и, конечно, выступление Have Heart; как жаль, что больше никогда не удасться увидеть эту банду живьем... Также очень рад был пообщаться с парнями из Celeste: приятно, что запомнили еще с московского концерта :) Zann хорошо отыграли, но всё же куда больше порадовало их выступление во Всех своих) Ну и выступление наших Ray само собой: провал сцены неожиданным оказался, но в итоге отыграли очень круто! Надеюсь с парнем из Киева всё в порядке. Вообще, замечательный отдых вышел: много приятного и дружелюбного народа, неплохая еда, хорошая атмосфера, шикарные группы, ради такого в принципе и стоит жить)
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xparacelsusx
leaving in a few hours with couple of vans,cars,trains..žule ne zajebavaj s vremenom
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xmackattackx
god dammit this would be so sweet to go to. endlessly jealous. they have the hipster indie rock version of this close to where i am from.
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D4rt8W0ll1
+ THIS WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEHAAAAAA!!!!!! http://www.myspace.com/thiswilldestroyyou
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schoofhond
hi, hab noch 3 plätze in meinem auto frei. fahr am donnerstag abend von hannover aus..würde aber auch bei braunschweig, magdeburg, halle, leipzig oder sonst wo auf der strecke leute einsammeln... bei interesse einfach mailen.
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xNewEthicx
Really really siked for Fluff. Hope the weather is good because I'm in the mood for swimming!
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xZerglingx
Ein positives *hallo* an alle! (= Ich suche noch eine Mitfahrgelegenheit über Dresden, also garnicht zu weit abseits. Würde mich freuen, wenn sich jmd melded.
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