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Second 8th Week Ministries :( - Part 3 - how I heard about this "ministry"
5 Jul 2008, 17:51
I should probably lay out for you how I heard about this "ministry" as well as my reactions to it.
I heard about JoAnne Cremer and Second 8th Week Ministries through an online friend on MySpace. He was a very new Christian, and he was not raised as a Christian. To make matters harder, he is from a country that has very few Christians....he was never really exposed to Christianity much.
He told me that he was trying to get whatever information he could about Jesus and about the Christian faith...and he had been in contact with several different "ministries" on MySpace. I told him to be very careful because there are a lot of false teachers out there. Well, as it turned out he ended up asking me to look at two of the people that he had been listening to, and one of them was "Apostle" JoAnne Cremer. He gave me her MySpace page and links to her websites. I looked at her MySpace page, her blog, and her website, along with the official Second 8th Week ministries site. I felt that there was something very wrong with it.....just by some of the things that were said. I warned him. I told him something wasn't right.
I decided to contact JoAnne Cremer directly, and I sent her a message on MySpace. After reading her response I knew there was something VERY wrong with the ministry. My friend asked me to listen to three of her teachings. I did. I became convinced that she was teaching people to rely on angels instead of God. Later my friend invited me to a group. JoAnne was in that group and I directly confronted her about some of this stuff. It was at that time that I decided to see what was on the Internet about this ministry. That is when I found the conqueringlove.com website.
In the entries to follow, I will show the exact messages that were sent back and forth along with my reactions......what I felt was wrong with what she was saying.
Adrienne Liesching, Geoff MooreAudio AdrenalineBob FittsCandi PearsonCasting CrownsCharlie HallChris TomlinCircadian RhythmCircleslideDarlene ZschechDavid Crowder BandDelirious?Jars of ClayJeremy CampJeremy RiddleMatt RedmanNewsboysPhil JoelPillarPraise BandReuben MorganSanctus RealShane Barnard, Shane EverettShane & ShaneSteve FeeSteven Curtis ChapmanThird DayTim HughesTruevibeScott UnderwoodMatt RedmanJohn BarnettCasting CrownsArrivingGLOMission BellRedemption SongsCarried MeRestoredFull AttentionFacedownGoing PublicUnshakeableCarry AwayAll Things NewOfferingsOfferings IIOfferings 2When Silence FallsBeautiful NewsIn Christ AloneWalk On WaterWalk on WaterVictory ChantSing to the King
What if His People PrayedVoice Of TruthAmerican DreamHere I Go AgainSendingHow Great Is Our GodOn Our SideCome Let Us WorshipUnchangingHow Can I Keep From SingingBeauiful SaviorGravityAll Things Are PossibleBe Lifted or Hope RisingDo Not MoveWe WinRevolutionary LoveGod's RomanceJesus' BloodStrongerNow Is The TimeSolid RockJesus, I Lift My EyesIt Is Well With My SoulTrust In YouWalk By FaithLonging HeartEven WhenMore Than a FriendNothing But the BoodMission's FlameShineUnshakeableBring Me DownI Will Not Forget YouHear Our PraisesOn the Lord's DayHey WaitSong Of SurrenderRevolution CryMuch Of YouBelieve Me NowTreasure Of JesusConsuming FireMedleyConsuming FireGiver Of LifeWhole World In His HandsYou Are The WayLight The Fire In My Heart AgainYou Never Let GoA Greater SongChurch Rise Up
I heard about JoAnne Cremer and Second 8th Week Ministries through an online friend on MySpace. He was a very new Christian, and he was not raised as a Christian. To make matters harder, he is from a country that has very few Christians....he was never really exposed to Christianity much.
He told me that he was trying to get whatever information he could about Jesus and about the Christian faith...and he had been in contact with several different "ministries" on MySpace. I told him to be very careful because there are a lot of false teachers out there. Well, as it turned out he ended up asking me to look at two of the people that he had been listening to, and one of them was "Apostle" JoAnne Cremer. He gave me her MySpace page and links to her websites. I looked at her MySpace page, her blog, and her website, along with the official Second 8th Week ministries site. I felt that there was something very wrong with it.....just by some of the things that were said. I warned him. I told him something wasn't right.
I decided to contact JoAnne Cremer directly, and I sent her a message on MySpace. After reading her response I knew there was something VERY wrong with the ministry. My friend asked me to listen to three of her teachings. I did. I became convinced that she was teaching people to rely on angels instead of God. Later my friend invited me to a group. JoAnne was in that group and I directly confronted her about some of this stuff. It was at that time that I decided to see what was on the Internet about this ministry. That is when I found the conqueringlove.com website.
In the entries to follow, I will show the exact messages that were sent back and forth along with my reactions......what I felt was wrong with what she was saying.
Adrienne Liesching, Geoff MooreAudio AdrenalineBob FittsCandi PearsonCasting CrownsCharlie HallChris TomlinCircadian RhythmCircleslideDarlene ZschechDavid Crowder BandDelirious?Jars of ClayJeremy CampJeremy RiddleMatt RedmanNewsboysPhil JoelPillarPraise BandReuben MorganSanctus RealShane Barnard, Shane EverettShane & ShaneSteve FeeSteven Curtis ChapmanThird DayTim HughesTruevibeScott UnderwoodMatt RedmanJohn BarnettCasting CrownsArrivingGLOMission BellRedemption SongsCarried MeRestoredFull AttentionFacedownGoing PublicUnshakeableCarry AwayAll Things NewOfferingsOfferings IIOfferings 2When Silence FallsBeautiful NewsIn Christ AloneWalk On WaterWalk on WaterVictory ChantSing to the King
What if His People PrayedVoice Of TruthAmerican DreamHere I Go AgainSendingHow Great Is Our GodOn Our SideCome Let Us WorshipUnchangingHow Can I Keep From SingingBeauiful SaviorGravityAll Things Are PossibleBe Lifted or Hope RisingDo Not MoveWe WinRevolutionary LoveGod's RomanceJesus' BloodStrongerNow Is The TimeSolid RockJesus, I Lift My EyesIt Is Well With My SoulTrust In YouWalk By FaithLonging HeartEven WhenMore Than a FriendNothing But the BoodMission's FlameShineUnshakeableBring Me DownI Will Not Forget YouHear Our PraisesOn the Lord's DayHey WaitSong Of SurrenderRevolution CryMuch Of YouBelieve Me NowTreasure Of JesusConsuming FireMedleyConsuming FireGiver Of LifeWhole World In His HandsYou Are The WayLight The Fire In My Heart AgainYou Never Let GoA Greater SongChurch Rise Up