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  • fxdxhxl never said it didn't come from the same place, I was saying they is a considerable difference (It's hair splitting but there is a difference).
  • I dont have a problem with Metallic Hardcore being lumped in with Metalcore but saying that Metalcore is another word for Metallic Hardcore is pushing it
  • Totally agreed with ignitreaxiom and totally disagreeed with JamuraiSack about the metallic hardcore. It's different, but it came from the same place, while some tried to experimenting with the equal blend of metal and hardcore and some stayed because they did -they do, belong under the metallic hardcore genre. Isn't that what the description tried to say? Keep yourself calm, dude.
  • The metalcore label is a catch-all for any band that is not progressive, or death. Sure there are still genuine metalcore bands, but it's such a misused tag because people fail to accept that metal as it was once known, has evolved in the past 20 years. Just because it's heavy, rhythmic and doesn't sound like the classics, doesn't mean it's metalcore. /rant
  • really needs to start fixing their genres. metalcore and metallic hardcore are not the same thing, as i lay dying=metalcore, the ghost inside=metallic hardcore, and if you think those two bands sound the same then just don't involve yourself in the discussion (or listen to more music). futhermore all the top bands for metalcore are the same as the ones for melodic metalcore, and those two genres aren't the same either. and post-hardcore is completely out to lunch, 80% of those bands are either melodic metalcore or emo.
  • They are two different things. Metallic HC being hardcore punk with some metal thrown in but it's sparing and used in small increments (Blacklisted, Backtrack, Judge). While metalcore is a even blend of metal and hardcore (Earth Crisis, Disembodied, Starkweather).
  • "Metalcore and metallic hardcore are two different things." - No, they are not. Unless you think melodic metalcore and metalcore are the same thing.
  • if you haven't yet, I recommend trying out Bring Me the Horizon's new music, I dig it!
  • Melodic hardcore Lima-Perú
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  • It's so sad how many shit bands there are in this genre. There certainly are exceptions but the genre is sadly mostly populated by horribly edgy bands.
  • "Pioneering bands, such as Hogan’s Heroes, Avenged Sevenfold, Earth Crisis, Deadguy, Hatebreed, Bury Your Dead and Integrity, lean more towards beatdown hardcore" What the fuck
  • Metalcore and metallic hardcore are two different things. This description is inaccurate.
  • v That might be true, but on the other hand I imagine your average Joe who heard Avenged or BFMV on the radio might not even know the term Metalcore. I think a good amount of those tags are from 5-7 years ago.
  • This site still has plenty of active taggers, most of them just have no idea what they're actually listening to.
  • "I wish enough people still used to adjust these Top Artists a bit. A few of them don't even play Metalcore anymore." Word
  • v agreed. The tempos are generally a little odd for that.
  • i dont think that August Burns Red would make good for background during fap sessions
  • Masturbationcore
  • I wish enough people still used to adjust these Top Artists a bit. A few of them don't even play Metalcore anymore.
  • Chimaira needs to be a top artist in the top 8.
  • Gosh Misery Signals are probably one of the greatest bands ever.
  • misery signals perfect bullshit
  • Misery Signals are always great, theyre one of those bands that seems to never fail
  • Misery Signals are the best metalcore band ever!
  • Still a good genre. A lot of the most popular bands are a tad overrated, but there are a fuck-ton of ridiculously talented bands. Misery Signals anyone? God Forbid? Bury Your (fucking) Dead?
  • Plus I don't get why people who don't listen to any whiny music act like their opinion on it is educated enough to mean anything. I mean, you wouldn't ask a Corehead about their opinion on Metal, so why would it work the other way? Do you not understand the real world, kid? Maybe one day you'll learn. You're young enough to still figure it out.
  • "That what you mean is probably more rocking music for little girls who have her period for the first time = Post-hardcore." And yet again you point out the good things about the genre as if they're negatives. I'll never understand the mindset of whiny people trying to come off as macho men. lol.
  • I think There are 3 waves in the Metalcore era: 90s metalcore was born by mixed metallic hardcore with melodic death metal elements. 00s metalcore has become mainstream by mixing it with alternative or thrash. Almost all bands from this era I hate. f**k AX7, f**k Killswitch Engage, f**k Trivium, f**k Bullet For My Valentine, f**k Lamb of God, f**k 5FDP. 10s metalcore is the new term for progressive metal mixed with Chugcore.
  • @bobo9390 That what you mean is probably more rocking music for little girls who have her period for the first time = Post-hardcore. So you're in the wrong thread, or you're on an extra pussy Metalcore trip.
  • Also SXR85G, I respect that type of Metalcore, but it's not the real deal. The clean vocals and mallcore lyrics are why I love Metalcore. No other Metal subgenre does those two things the same way as Metalcore. Take that away and it's just plain old metal. If I wanted Metal, I'd listen to Metal.
  • "metal core sucks huge cock as all it's listeners" That still doesn't tell me if you like it or not. What an irrelevant comment. What does cock sucking have to do with playing music? Dumb kid. Cocks aren't even instruments. It's either a slang for penis or a chicken, depending on your chosen definition in this instance.
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  • True oldschool Metalcore was Metallic Hardcore combined with Melodic Death elements like Unearth. Parkway Drive and Feed Her to the Sharks are few of them which are f**king awesome imo. I hate Metalcore with clean vocals that is combined with Thrash or Alternative Metal. Progressive bands like Walking with Strangers, A Call to Sincerity and Structures are the only reason why this genre is at least a bit enjoyable for me.
  • metal core sucks huge cock as all it's listeners
  • combining the worst of two genres
  • @metaloly that doesnt mean that the two cant be combined
  • @mimaammo im aware of that
  • mettalcore is a WAY OF LIFE. MORE THAN A GENRE. \\m/ rock on, you post-emo hxc kids who dress like hipsters now. ROCK. THE FUCK. ON.
  • metal is not hardcore
  • @MoogInRow: yeah, it is called evolution of music... and, well, despite this fact, a lot of people still preffer 70's classic hardrock than new bands which are based on those "old" bands.
  • Metalcore was at its best during its sort of midphase, with bands like Poison the Well, ZAO, Norma Jean, Spitfire, Underoath, Misery Signals and From Autumn to Ashes. dont get me wrong i loves me some Converge, Botch, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Coalesce etc. but i feel that around the late 90s and early 2000s Metalcore bands didnt really know what to do with Metalcore so they just did whatever the hell they wanted with it and out came some really innovative and unique bands. nowadays most Metalcore really seems to just be At the Gates with breakdowns and overly poppy vocals or just boring breakdown infested Pop Punk with screaming. the only Metallic Hardcore bands that i really love are the more Mathcore related bands, really like the weird odd technical riffs of those bands.
  • I think most popular bands give out some sort of influence for upcoming bands.
  • Fit For A King and Gideon are ok, I just don't see where this mid-paced jump up and down, groove based breakdown bands will go. I can see Gideon's sound sticking around, because it has a large old-school background and I don't see that ever going out of style. I mean, I love breakdowns but there still needs to be good song-writing and not just the shoehorned inserted clean melodies/choruses for accessible appeal, for the sake of it. I mean, why aren't these post-hardcore influenced bands still using the varied approach of something like Poison The Well?
  • But hey, when I was 15 people in their 20s didn't really think bands like Killswitch Engage or Shadows Fall would ever be seen as seminal, yet it's happened. So maybe I'm wrong about that. If those new bands are impacting the new era of kids the same way, I'm all for it.
  • v I enjoy a decent amount of the straightforward bands currently popular in the scene (Like Moths To Flames, Gideon, Fit For A King) but I still don't think it has the power or lasting value that the genre did a decade ago. And when I go back and revisit albums from that era, I'm more convinced it's not just nostalgia talking.
  • I don't know why anybody listens to anything else besides progressive metalcore for modern metalcore these days, unless it's Converge or Misery Signals based it's usually dated as fuck.
  • It's that metalcore changed so much that really the newer bands should be under a different genre, but since the more popular metalcore bands already kept the name the older metalcore bands (or fans of the genre) wanted Metallic Hardcore name instead. It's pretty much the same problem with modern melodeath bands. Some old school melodeath fans want modern melodeath to be named 'melodic metal' because there's no 'death metal' in those bands, it's usually easier to call the early melodeath style, 'old school melodeath'. Same problem is with emo. I blame the artists who claim their style is something that is not clearly what it is. That's one reason many melodic metalcore bands are often mislabeled as melodeath, the other would be because there are melodeath influences. I'm a fan of both the new and old, but i think there should be a better way for a style to be labeled so you don't get a bunch of bands that don't sound like anything what you want to hear.
  • Metallic Hardcore is so lame. It just sounds like Hardcore Punk with metal riffs. I want my slick production and breakdowns.


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