"Fusion" genres like metalcore are like that though. They exist on a spectrum between their two (or more) parent genres. Acting like there is a big enough difference between "metalcore" and "metallic hardcore" to use the terms as anything other than synonyms is drawing differences that aren't necessary.
I'm more into OG metalcore like Converge, Earth Crisis, Integrity, Starkweather and Cave In as mentioned but I still consider metalcore and metallic hardcore difference even during that time period when it was coming about. Like Earth Crisis or Starkweather is "metal enough" to be metalcore as opposed to metallic hardcore so to speak.
v lol why it always non-Scenesters acting like their opinion on Scenecore matters? You rarely see scene kids talking shit on Metallic Hardcore so I can't understand why it would work the other way around. You're simply not true Scene.
"saying that Metalcore is another word for Metallic Hardcore is pushing it" - Only if you're a former scene kiddie who grew up with melodic metalcore acts like Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying and Shadows Fall instead of real metalcore like Converge, Earth Crisis, Integrity, Starkweather and Cave In.
I miss the days of sentence long song titles and neon band merch. There's still plenty of good Metalcore coming out, but the genre will be stagnant until the zany era makes a return. It's inevitable. Just a matter of when.
Totally agreed with ignitreaxiom and totally disagreeed with JamuraiSack about the metallic hardcore. It's different, but it came from the same place, while some tried to experimenting with the equal blend of metal and hardcore and some stayed because they did -they do, belong under the metallic hardcore genre. Isn't that what the description tried to say? Keep yourself calm, dude.
The metalcore label is a catch-all for any band that is not progressive, or death. Sure there are still genuine metalcore bands, but it's such a misused tag because people fail to accept that metal as it was once known, has evolved in the past 20 years. Just because it's heavy, rhythmic and doesn't sound like the classics, doesn't mean it's metalcore. /rant
last.fm really needs to start fixing their genres. metalcore and metallic hardcore are not the same thing, as i lay dying=metalcore, the ghost inside=metallic hardcore, and if you think those two bands sound the same then just don't involve yourself in the discussion (or listen to more music). futhermore all the top bands for metalcore are the same as the ones for melodic metalcore, and those two genres aren't the same either. and post-hardcore is completely out to lunch, 80% of those bands are either melodic metalcore or emo.
They are two different things. Metallic HC being hardcore punk with some metal thrown in but it's sparing and used in small increments (Blacklisted, Backtrack, Judge). While metalcore is a even blend of metal and hardcore (Earth Crisis, Disembodied, Starkweather).
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v That might be true, but on the other hand I imagine your average Joe who heard Avenged or BFMV on the radio might not even know the term Metalcore. I think a good amount of those tags are from 5-7 years ago.
Plus I don't get why people who don't listen to any whiny music act like their opinion on it is educated enough to mean anything. I mean, you wouldn't ask a Corehead about their opinion on Metal, so why would it work the other way? Do you not understand the real world, kid? Maybe one day you'll learn. You're young enough to still figure it out.
"That what you mean is probably more rocking music for little girls who have her period for the first time = Post-hardcore." And yet again you point out the good things about the genre as if they're negatives. I'll never understand the mindset of whiny people trying to come off as macho men. lol.
I think There are 3 waves in the Metalcore era: 90s metalcore was born by mixed metallic hardcore with melodic death metal elements.
00s metalcore has become mainstream by mixing it with alternative or thrash. Almost all bands from this era I hate. f**k AX7, f**k Killswitch Engage, f**k Trivium, f**k Bullet For My Valentine, f**k Lamb of God, f**k 5FDP.
10s metalcore is the new term for progressive metal mixed with Chugcore.
@bobo9390 That what you mean is probably more rocking music for little girls who have her period for the first time = Post-hardcore. So you're in the wrong thread, or you're on an extra pussy Metalcore trip.
Also SXR85G, I respect that type of Metalcore, but it's not the real deal. The clean vocals and mallcore lyrics are why I love Metalcore. No other Metal subgenre does those two things the same way as Metalcore. Take that away and it's just plain old metal. If I wanted Metal, I'd listen to Metal.
"metal core sucks huge cock as all it's listeners" That still doesn't tell me if you like it or not. What an irrelevant comment. What does cock sucking have to do with playing music? Dumb kid. Cocks aren't even instruments. It's either a slang for penis or a chicken, depending on your chosen definition in this instance.
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True oldschool Metalcore was Metallic Hardcore combined with Melodic Death elements like Unearth. Parkway Drive and Feed Her to the Sharks are few of them which are f**king awesome imo. I hate Metalcore with clean vocals that is combined with Thrash or Alternative Metal. Progressive bands like Walking with Strangers, A Call to Sincerity and Structures are the only reason why this genre is at least a bit enjoyable for me.