i love when people go out to see shows an won't shut the fuck up. why are you even there. go to a bar or some shit if you want to talk. i saw sebadoh years ago at house of blues in new orleans and they almost walked off stage because of that shit
You're right dumbcracker, playing with effects doesn't make a song, it makes an experimental sonic landscape. Who decides the definition of a song anyway? Do you want to be the one who tries and undoubtedly fails to define art?