Altar of Plagues

Cassandra-Leo wrote:

I care far more about quality than I care about genre labels. That said, there are some genres that appeal to me far less than others do so I won't say genre labels don't matter to me at all.

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BloodRedChaos wrote:

People who say genre labels are unimportant are idiots. I want to know what a band sounds like before I bother listening to their music.

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necrokult wrote:

Good shit, stick your genre labels up your fag asses.

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destruktornaut wrote:

wu tang is 4ever

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cirruswolf wrote:

And so the cycle continues.

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P_cell wrote:

@lordmackery: Check it's vote count. It's been voted down heavily.

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jamesieoconnell wrote:

I live close to where they started :D

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lordmackery wrote:

Why is that fucking annoying shitty red picture still come up when people listen to them? Everyone vote it down.

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P_cell wrote:

I can see where this is going. Altar of Plagues are definitely atmospheric black metal, how one can deny their definite "atmospheric" and "black metal" quality I don't understand. The "black metal/post-rock camp" describes atmospheric black metal 90% of the time from my understanding. That's all I'm going to say, I'm not going to get into a meaningless pissing contest.

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lordmackery wrote:

Black metal or not, Altar of Plagues are fucking awesome. (And they are black metal)

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BloodRedChaos wrote:

Altars of Plagues aren't post-black metal or atmospheric black metal. They're in the black metal/post-rock camp (all of which sucks, I hasten to add). Post-black metal is stuff like Sigh and Arcturus and Atmospheric Black Metal is stuff like The Ruins of Beverast.

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cirruswolf wrote:

I get what you're saying destruktornaut, but you could keep pushing to the point where it's all just referred to as "music" which can be further generalised. When something stands away from the crowd it needs to be classified, hence the absolute clusterfuck of made-up genres that seem to dominate metal and most other main genres. P_cell's hit the nail on the head really

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P_cell wrote:

I'm still getting the impression that "post-black metal" is just a fancier or more pretentious way of saying "atmospheric black metal". The way people have described post-black metal's characteristics seems to be exactly the way I'd describe atmospheric black metal. I can let "post-metal" slide on occasion but I'm not letting this slide. Altar of Plagues is atmospheric black metal and no I'm claiming to be the arbiter of genres in this case.

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destruktornaut wrote:

Still redundant, because it's still just black metal at the end of the day. Maybe if the music was a significant evolution in the sound, but it really isn't. Altar of Plagues is an excellent band with a killer sound and a solid, focused philosophy behind their music, but there's nothing particularly innovative about it. The problem with the post prefix is that it's all about implication, no one can objectively say 'this is what it means' because it really doesn't mean anything.

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cirruswolf wrote:

"Post" implies a deviation from the norms and conventions of a particular genre, but yet still retaining the essence of the genre. Postmodernism, for example, was a result of Modernism. It took modernism, turned it on its head and set fire to its house, but remained a result of Modernism. In the same way, Post-Black Metal as it's being described here is taking the key elements of black metal: tremelo based riffs, atmospheric sound, high speed drums, unconventional song structure, screamed vocals and a misanthropic world view (note, those are just the common aspects I can pick off the top of my head, I'm not saying that those ARE black metal) and pushing it a little further. It's musical innovation on a genre, that quite frankly, has run its course as far as the corpsepaint, "Arg, Satan" and church burnings of the 90's did. Anything nowadays that presents itself that way is just irrelevant masturbation, in my opinion.

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cybrauralninjuh wrote:

Post-(anything) is just a word to say when you don't know what's coming next. Or else you want to sound cool. This band sounds like the real deal, whatever that is!

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AstralAndArcane wrote:

Just modern music!

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xNorbertx wrote:

what? no corpsepaint? :(

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