@Akerbelste wow, you're really obsessed with me buddy, but this time I have to respond because you just went full stupid and misleading here: Yeah, I "quoted" Noctir. I just posted an interview he conducted with quorthon himself as a proof he once CLAIMED he was not influenced by venom, and that's pretty much all, if you legitimately felt offended or outsmarted by that you really need to question your existence.
Guys, stop listening to that fucking retard of dark_wisdom already. He just can't stop saying stupid things, and proof of that is, again, his intervention over here... quoting Noctir as if he had a fucking single clue about anything in metal. This clown circle of metal connoiseurs is pretty awful...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwgORSPhQY Venom influences are all over the place, since this debut was released on 1984, I can't really agree with Quorthon, he was definitely influenced by the first two Venom albums and their styles. but he was a pioneer himself nonetheless and created his own sound which further shaped the second wave of BM.
v Again, debatable if you are putting Bathory in the "any single extreme metal band" sack. For me it is hard to believe venom didn't influence bathory at all, I mean, it seems pretty obvious, but for some reason Quorthon always denied any influence of venom in his work. Read this for more detailed info. http://ritesoftheblackmoon.tripod.com/article6.html
"just listen to bathory first LP and youll see venom influence and riffs" This is debatable, since Quorthon always denied influences of venom in his work even though it seems he was influenced by it not only musically but lyrically too.
thats actually good thing. because kronos said itself, that "their music was garbage joke, and everyone who take it serious and bought this piece of shit is fucking clown". just listen to bathory first LP and youll see venom influence and riffs. nevertheless varg always supported venom even in court by wearing venom t-shirt. and euronymous said that there was plenty murders just because of venom existence. anyway if i would like to know varg opinion about venom, i just can ask him on his yt channel :) they all were raised on venom there is no point to deny it.
@BeingofEvil, >> also the way venom inspired burzum, bathory, mayhem made norwegian black metal.
Varg Vikernes said, that all norwegian "pandas" (except Euronymous) thinking that Venom was a fucking clowns and just shitty rock-n-roll band. You can read burzum.org for more info about this.
okay look, venom is proto-black metal, that mean their music contain blackened speed metal/thrash, d-beat and such. its not "norwegian" black metal you know from black-white painted pandas. its fucking stanic black metal. its black because cronos said so. also the way venom inspired burzum, bathory, mayhem made norwegian black metal.