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  • ProgPro96

    One of the best choruses Mike ever composed. [2]

    7 Oct 2012 Reply

  • arglactable

    Of course, whether the DVD's are lossy or not is much pretty irrelevant, given how minor the improvement in 16/44.1 is compared to high quality mp3's from the same master. Cut sure, bit rates are fun.

    28 Apr 2012 Reply

  • BlackLodgeDwarf

    One of the best choruses Mike ever composed.

    1 Dec 2011 Reply

  • jsnruf

    familiar voices pee pee behind the wall of sleep

    30 Nov 2011 Reply

  • jelb0

    Anyone notice the small 'blurb' of water @ 1:44? Weird :O

    8 Nov 2011 Reply

  • Kapper_Rocks

    seriously, how did this not make the album?!

    3 Nov 2011 Reply

  • snowdog62

    shudda been on the album ffs! Dump Slither and replace it with this.

    17 Oct 2011 Reply

  • Python777

    I got the Legacy Edition of Blackwater Park the other day. The surround mix is also in DTS. It's lossy, but it's still pretty damn good. The mastering is way better and it's not as loud as the CD and has more dynamics: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=opeth&search_album=blackwater+park

    12 Oct 2011 Reply

  • JBThazard

    Odds of that happening are super unlikely.

    11 Oct 2011 Reply

  • jelb0

    Yeah, Still Life's DVD contains DTS surround and AC3 stereo audio, both lossy. Yeah, I hope Pyre gets released as a FLAC some day :)

    7 Oct 2011 Reply

  • Python777

    No problem. The only other Opeth DVD I have is the surround mix of Still Life, which is encoded in DTS (also lossy). I think that, unless it's an actual DVD-A, most of the audio encoding on DVD's is done lossy. There are couple of exceptions in my collection though, like Dream Theater's Score DVD: that one contains a lossless PCM stereo mix.

    6 Oct 2011 Reply

  • JBThazard

    I was just making sure you didn't think that anything digitized is lossy, never mind then. And I extracted the tracks using DVD-A Extractor as well, but I just chose FLAC since I assumed they were stored as .wavs. Do you know if any of the other Opeth DVDas are retardedly stored similarly? Namely the remastered albums with 5.0 or 5.1 mixes.

    6 Oct 2011 Reply

  • Python777

    @JBThazard The way the songs were recorded doesn't have anything to do with how they are stored on the DVD. Pyre is stored on the DVD in an AC3-coded version which, by definition, is lossy. My definition of 'lossy' isn't any different from yours I suppose: MP3 is lossy, FLAC is not. However, if the source is MP3 and it's re-encoded to FLAC, it's still lossy of course. I've used DVD Audio Extractor using the 'direct audio stream' feature. So I definitely ripped it exactly how it's stored on the DVD. I'll upload a screenshot later if you want one, I'm at work now and can't get through the firewall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital says that 448kbps is the maximum bit rate for AC3-encoded audio on a video DVD (which the bonus DVD of Heritage is - a video DVD).

    6 Oct 2011 Reply

  • JBThazard

    Python777, can you confirm this with proof? Beacuse, to me, it sounds like maybe you're implying that the definition of lossy is anything that is not recorded with analog, or vinyl. If you watch the Heritage Documentary, Mike says that the entire album is digitally recorded, INCLUDING Pyre, the one song he demonstrated to us on his computer. So either by this semantic definition of lossy (anything digitized, with a sampling size, sampling/bit rate) BOTH the CD and DVD are lossy, OR you just happened to extract the files improperly and have only seen a bit rate for them as high as 448kbps, unless obviously you have some article or whatever to corroborate your claim. Besides, the highest possible bit rate for a lossy track in 16/48 is NOT 448kbps, it's lower (well, assuming you ported it to 2 channels, which you would have to since the bonus tracks are not offered in 5.1).

    6 Oct 2011 Reply

  • jelb0

    Amazing song!! Indeed the best if not the best of Heritage :) I'm glad I got the Special Eidition so I could rip the .ac3 file ^_^

    4 Oct 2011 Reply

  • Python777

    @ David_J1973: you're also listening to a lossy file. The song is stored in ac3 format on the DVD (48kHz, 448 kbps) so no matter how you get it off the DVD, it's lossy.

    29 Sep 2011 Reply

  • Resifreak

    Should've been on the record, as it is one of the better songs of this recording session

    28 Sep 2011 Reply

  • Gillywibble

    This is quality.

    26 Sep 2011 Reply

  • JeffersonBV

    Should have been placed in the main album in place of Slither. A RJD tribute is cool but it doesn't fit the main album.

    26 Sep 2011 Reply

  • felt30

    Wouldn't download on my imac, had to use my laptop and even then had to update Java in order to validate the DVD and receive the download link. Very worth it, though.

    23 Sep 2011 Reply
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