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2. ‘Nintendo’ may collectively refer to numerous video game soundtracks associated with Nintendo Co., Ltd. These include the works of 近藤浩治 (Koji Kondo), best known for composing the score for Super Mario and The Ledgend of Zelda; as well as many other prominent video game soundtrack composers.
NB: Please consider retagging your music collection to reflect the names of the actual composers, if known, rather than the company or individual games. This helps Last.fm organise its catalogue more efficiently and provide users with more accurate and relevant music recommendations. Nintendo, its products, games, and characters are not artists, and can be better represented on Last.fm with the nintendo tag.
For more information on our artist name guidelines, please refer to our FAQ.
3. For the alias of Russian rapper Баста, please see N1NT3NDO
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RockWorshipper
Nintendo > N1ntendo
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fiftyfourcake
if n1nt3ndo and nintendo have been unmerged is it possible to get the pics of him removed from this wiki?
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Masta_Freddy
раньше было лучше
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liftarn
For the alias of Russian rapper Баста, please see N1NT3NDO.
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no_more__hate
ран Вася ран
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Bublikozavr
what da fuck? real N1ntendo - from Russia:D
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fiftyfourcake
i appreciate that you've clarified a few things, maddieman. as much as i wish those images and wiki data could be displayed, your explanation has done a much better job of explaining why than the rude responses and actions by moderators. thank you for taking the time to address this issue. i feel content with your answers and will let this rest. i also appreciate that you've edited the wiki to be less abrasive. thanks for your help!
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mrmocha
...with of course the caveat that according to site guidelines and regardless of what benefits are reaped outside of last.fm (and inside) that we should still be putting composers in the artist field.
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mrmocha
Again maddieman, thank you for your time and acumen. Well done on the wiki rewrite. Reeling in those who have overstepped their function is a step in the right direction. I look forward to the progress of the scrobbler and protocol. May I take liberty in rewriting the countless profiles that undermine the spirit of last.fm? Nintendo Entertainment System for example. The wiki history will give you an idea on what that might look like... and no it has nothing to do with a card trading company and everything to do with what people love about 8-bit Nintendo music.
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Maddieman
As for ID3 tags, again, I'm not being drawn into the artist/composer/performer debate. As much as we liked to, we currently don't import more data from ID3 tags due to complexity, storage, bandwidth and costing concerns. Our database architecture and catalogue simply doesn't support this, and it's not a trivial task to support it. Never say never, but we have a very small team, and redefining the scrobble protocol is not a priority for us.
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Maddieman
Yes, that's an error on our part, not a policy decision. I've been pushing the webteam to get it fixed for the last month. You can read about it here. http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/2105862/2
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mrmocha
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mrmocha
also... I have auto-correct turned off and a track I just listened to Nintendo DS - Dotstream - Sonic 1 just scrobbled as Nintendo. So I would have to disagree to the statement "...no one is stopping you from tagging your mp3s as 'nintendo (ds)' and scrobbling them. No one is asking you to justify that." yet here I am.
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mrmocha
"Last.fm cares about three fields. Artist, track name and album name. If you just enter them correctly you can put your shopping list in the other fields and it will make no difference." <-this is what we get instead... huzzah.
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mrmocha
As a closing statement to Maddieman, since I appreciate your time and attention to this unfortunate moderation. Nintendo, for the people here and the console Nintendo 64/etc. for me act as a defining artist tag for the "version" of a piece. The logic being, there are no performers, the defining sound is the console. The "performance" of an 8-bit machine is different than that of a 16-bit machine and so on. Composers have their own fields in standard ID3. To duplicate that information in the Artist field is 1) dishonest, there are no humans performing these pieces 2) redundant, see composer field 3) counterproductive, I'm nearing 70,000 tracks in my library. Fragmented composer tags would be ridiculous.
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mrmocha
Yet 近藤浩治 (Koji Kondo) hasn't PERFORMED, as ARTISTS do, a single track (in my library)... how quaint.
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liftarn
Nintendo has 105,568 listeners. 近藤浩治 (Koji Kondo) has 221,654 listeners.
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Maddieman
I agree that "Fix your tags" and "do yourself and last.fm favour" are unhelpful and rude mantras that need to be stamped out, and I'm trying to discourage moderators from using it. If you are indeed "receiving grief from other users or moderators" please by all means send me a pm and I will investigate (or use the report abuse contact form). I also agree that locking down artist pages is a heavy handed approach to moderation, but again we need to come to an agreement where people don't simply replace everything with Nintendo's entire corporate history. As far as images are concerned, I'm afraid it's not ok to start uploading pictures of mario, zelda, and pokémon. Again, Nintendo isn't a band, we're not wikipedia, fair use doesn't apply, and copyrighted images are subject to removal. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.
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Maddieman
However, it's not OK just copy and paste wikipedia's entire history of Nintendo and how they transformed themselves from a card trading business into videogames. We're a music website, not Wikipedia, and that's not useful information for the majority of Last.fm users. It's also particularly destructive if there are other artists that share the name (although that's being worked on, so shouldn't remain an issue for much longer).
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Maddieman
The composer / artist debate is always interesting, and I've discussed it many times in detail on the forums. However, as tempting as it is to get drawn into this, I think it's largely irrelevant to the actual complaints that arise from this. From our perspective, Nintendo isn't an artist and Last.fm isn't Wikipedia. If you want to tag 'Nintendo' music, as a collective group, we would prefer that you use the nintendo tag not an artist page. That being said, no one is stopping you from tagging your mp3s as 'nintendo' and scrobbling them. No one is asking you to justify that. We think you're incorrect, and will attempt to autocorrect these tracks where applicable to provide you with more relevant results; but you can turn that feature off. It's still your music and your data.
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