Manic Street Preachers

Deardeadfriend wrote:

God, I love these pics: http://www.lastfm.de/music/Manic+Street+Preachers/+images/34370329 and http://www.lastfm.de/music/Manic+Street+Preachers/+images/38346497

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dekpy wrote:

love manic

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Stop_Euphoria wrote:

Группа шикарна!!!!!

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kitzz wrote:

I've been a fan for a year and known them for 3 years. Not really care about who is dead and who isn't in the band. I love the music, the lyrics and their gigs. I don't think this makes me a poser. It's not my fault that I hadn't even known about their existence until Send Away The Tigers came out.

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RPGHeroine wrote:

Just to say I've loved them since Gold Against The Soul first came out.

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JamiJoe wrote:

eham wrote :'Sean because important as he may be, he is not a big creative contributor' - he writes most of the music.........................

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gabethevegan wrote:

I love this Pic of the Lads,just makes me feel warm all over..very sweet,cool and very sad

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f0rce0fnature wrote:

i have a feeling that if i were around and old enough when the manics started, i'd like them. but i end up liking bands way after they start, it's the problem with being a young american teenager.

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eham wrote:

Defunct47: You make an excellent, and very well formulated, point! I should have been clearer about that: I'm not "laying into" people who are, or became, fans after RJE disappeared. I myself became a huge Joy Division fan AFTER Ian Curtis died, simply because I was too young at the time. But I didn't become a fan BECAUSE they got hyped as a result of his suicide (just as you obvously didn't with MSP), but because I happened to hear "Love Will Tear Us Apart" when I was a morose hormonal 15 year old. I'm not sure I'm with you on the "finding a band underneath lesser work" being more special; you either like what you hear, critically acclaimed or not, or you move on; but I don't think you get points for seniority either. And I know I was being somewhat unfair, I was trying to make a point. It seems I may have sprayed a little to wide....

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eham wrote:

"Let the posers be..." That's just not gonna happen :-). Also, if you're an adult, and you *became* an MJ fan in the short space between the time he died and now, chances are you ARE a poser :-)

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Defunct47 wrote:

To be fair eham - it isn't like this shoutbox always looked like it did yesterday, generally it will say things about the band as a whole and their music and everything that you would expect. Also, it seems a little disrespectful to lay into people just because of when they were born, I mean it isn't like I selected 1992. In a way I think it is more special to have found their back catalogue and brilliance underneath the gloss of their later (still pretty darn good) work and without the music press going, 'hey guys check out this band they are super cool!'. I may not technically 'miss' Richey being as I was never aware of his prescence but he wrote the lyrics to 'Yes' and that makes him pretty damn important to me so on the anniversary of him disappearing I want to share that with other people that feel the same.

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Scarlett1991 wrote:

I also think this "who is a poser and who is not" subject is really boring, for example almost everyone who dared to say he liked Heath Ledger's movies or that he enjoys MJ's music after they died got flamed as a poser. Everybody knows themselves in their hearts how true of a fan they are .. :) (and I repeat that I DO understand your point, I just think that let the so called posers be..)

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Scarlett1991 wrote:

"but I feel you reaction is a bit knee-jerk, rather than actually trying to understand what it is I was trying to convey." - I understand perfectly what you are trying to say. But I do think people who are fan of Richey, are that because of his lyrics. I could be wrong though. :)

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eham wrote:

To reiterate: Richey is cool; The Holy Bible is an amazing album; and I really don't like posers.

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eham wrote:

Scarlett, I love you like a sister ;-), but I feel you reaction is a bit knee-jerk, rather than actually trying to understand what it is I was trying to convey. Or maybe I wasn't very clear. 1) I DID explain that. Pretty thoroughly. 2) I don't mention Sean because important as he may be, he is not a big creative contributor, and he would be the first to admit it. It has nothing to do with (dis)respect, it's simply not relevant to the discourse. 3) You are absolutely right, I am generalizing to make a point. 4b) Again, my problem is not with fandom as long as it's based on genuine appreciation of the artists work, which is not always the case here. 4b) I love and admire a lot of artist and people who are dead - suicide or otherwise. I think you're somewhat missing my point here... And again, you're free to love and idolize RJE or whomever to your hearts content, There's just something disingenuous about 85% of the shouts being only about missing RJE, rather than about MSP or Holy Bible.

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Scarlett1991 wrote:

Please explain why remembering Richey is disrespectful to JD and Nicky? Also, I think it's disrespectful of you not to mention Sean anywhere. I understand your so called "problem" but you are generlizing too much I think. For example, George Harrison didn't commit suicide yet I'm still sad that it will be already 10 years since he died (next year).

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eham wrote:

My problem is obviously not with Richey, but with hypocrits and posers who starts clinging to an artist after, and because, he or she (presumably) commits suicide. Like Joy Division, Jeff Buckley, etc, who sold a lot of albums to fans who "always loved them" AFTER they died. I've been a fan since Motown Junk, and I've seen them live (amazing!); and while Richey was very charismatic and did bring some great lyrics to the table, let's be honest, he was in no way a bigger part of Manics than James or Nicky, even in those days, and he certainly wasn't when a lot of these people became fans. So be a fan by all means, but don't romanticize someone just because he killed himself (presumably).

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gabethevegan wrote:

Eham:some good points,i have always been alarmed at the Fetishizing of Artists like Richey and Ian Curtis.But most shouts are just registering their love for some one who meant a lot to us, who saw him and those that didn't,i dont think remembering Richey in anyway is disrespectful to JDB,Nicky and Sean..Dont down play Richey's contribution to the Greatest Rock Band in the World..Lol

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