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  • Having finally heard "Without Support", I have to say the "depressive rock" genre tag doesn't fit it- it isn't depressive at all, IMO. The emotional mood of it to me seems something like one of recovery from the nihilistic, anhedonic emotional state that "Wisdom & Arrogance" depicts, still carrying some baggage but learning to enjoy life again. (This is more or less what the band has said about it in interviews- also note the lyrics to "Puberty & Dreams".) I don't think the band's name really fits them anymore- "Without Support" actually has some real joy in it. (It's also absolutely excellent, one of the best albums I've heard in quite a while.)
  • This is not what I want when I put on Urfaust radio
  • without support is a great album. I wish there was more of this kind of depressive music that isn't what you would always expect.
  • Как же круто. Тут такая же родная атмосфера как и в FW, будто это все мой батя сочинил и записал.
  • weird stuff
  • Kakam var.
  • "Wisdom & Arrogance" is one of those albums that I will never get tired of .
  • surely great music...but totaly disturbing
  • have a nice fight <3
  • More!
  • I want more.
  • I dream of the Swansmile
  • Popiş.
  • join the forgotten woods group http://www.last.fm/group/Forgotten+Woods
  • Schon eimal Unlitmed Hate und Curse of the Mankind nacheinander gehört? Dass der Bandname wechselt fällt gar nicht auf.
  • ahh, right. Sorry. I thought, joyless (and not forgotten woods) realesed the albums. ;) by the way.. Theo old joyless aren't similar to forgotten woods.
  • The old Joyless is called Forgotten Woods. The new album is great, I really enjoy it.
  • New albums took some listening...but now it totally rules.
  • The new stuff is shit. I want the old Joyless back!
  • Unlimited Hate, Wisdom and Arrogance, two of my all time favorite albums... my only complaint is I am subjected to the corpse painted crap they're associated with when I LastFM them! If you like Joyless and not the Forgotten Woods recorded in a tin can crap down the road, then you'll love old Swans, Atrocity and even Devil Doll I imagine....
  • Everyday is better than the next [3]
  • Point a gun at my head, Do you think I care? (...))))))))))))) (:
  • popo ısırmak
  • musically they're all over the place, and their hit-to-miss ratio is uneven at best. oddly though, this is a big part of JOYLESS' appeal to me. there is a uniqueness and earnesty to their jangly, lo-fi pop-driven miserabalism that separates them from most other bands in both the metal camp, as well as in the experimental rock camp. i've played "wisdom & arrogance" hundreds of times.
  • great
  • Check out all of their stuff . "Unlimited Hate' and "Wisdom & Arrogance' are excellent albums !
  • raw pop
  • Tell my friends that iiiiiiiiiiiiim on vacatioooon!
  • Their later stuff is Post Punk just the way i like it.
  • хрень
  • Everyday is better than the next [2]
  • Everyday is better than the next
  • Just found out about the new album. Fuck, I need to get this now!
  • I never get tired of this stuff .
  • Please, make something new and put it in youtube (sorry for my bad english) Someone hear something new about this band? priv pls
  • The new album is really great, ida is maybe one of the best female vocalists of all time ...!
  • Feels so nice while playing minecraft
  • I love this voice!
  • Can't escape the feeling that "Have a nice Fight" is a rip-off of a 60s song by The Beatmen called "Let's Make a Summer"...
  • This music is pure awesomeness... and that goes for all of their albums .
  • "I saw the face of god in the mirror..."
  • I like the new album. It's more focused than W&A.
  • This is surprisingly good .
  • The Soft Addiction, Better, Velvet Willows... = pure joy.
  • New album is fucking great. Took a few listens for it to grow on me though.
  • Yep.
  • frustrated by the new album...maybe it'll grow, but it's obviously worse than Wisdom&Arrogance.
  • Great album.
  • Great!

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