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I started out in florida, uh producing a record at a studio, and I got friendly with the engineer, and got interested in engineering. next thing I knew, I was listening to an album called 'freak out!' by the mothers of invention. I became very interested in their concept of music, their concept of, of uh, society in general, and their concept of humor, which I thought was very good, and uh enjoyed, because uh, they were saying a lot- whole lotta bunch of stuff that I wanted to say and I agreed with and thought was true. then one day I decided, 'i'll move to new york' because the air is clean, and the people are friendly, and everybody's in love. so I went to new york, and I got this job at this incredible twelve track studio. well, I didn't know from twelve track, I thought four track was really hot stuff. so I went in there and they said, 'here's the board. learn it.' he go, 'your first client's coming in in five minutes.' well, my first client was frank zappa,