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  • xVictimOfADownx

    They are the kind of lyrics where you have to be reading the booklet as you're listening or you'll miss it. I hardly remember Latin anymore, but if I did their lyrics would probably make more sense there too.

    1 hour ago
  • dark_wisdom

    "One of the very few bm bands where lyrics really matter" I never understood DSO lyrics to be honest, I'm more used to the idiotic and typical "satan rules, fuck jesus christ" sort of stuff

    18 hours ago
  • versionfiv

    stop using big words i have no idea what's going on

    yesterday morning
  • IG0tErection

    Kenose you guys

    Monday morning
  • patisawesome121

    It took me awhile, but I think that SMRC is my favorite DSO release. But, Paracletus is still a masterpiece.

    Sunday evening
  • patisawesome121

    Reading the lyrics I noticed that the theism of SMRC was masterfully coated with an existentialist/nihilist thematic in later releases adding to their depth. One of the very few bm bands where lyrics really matter [2]

    Sunday evening
  • AbrasiveMurk

    Mass Grave Aesthetics is what you're talking about right? Nihilistic thematic?

    Saturday morning
  • altered_vlad

    Reading the lyrics I noticed that the theism of SMRC was masterfully coated with an existentialist/nihilist thematic in later releases adding to their depth. One of the very few bm bands where lyrics really matter.

    Saturday morning
  • SlaveOfN1l

    I think someone has a bit of a sociopathic crush ;)

    Saturday morning
  • belgiumsucks

    Yeah, and while I was doing that, you were wishing that you had a vagina so that you COULD "cream" to those songs you tagged as such.

    Friday evening
  • SlaveOfN1l

    There was no bridge to begin with. He got high, thought he was Jesus and tried to walk on water, and drowned

    Friday evening
  • JBThazard

    belgiumsucks burned the very bridge he was crossing

    Friday evening
  • PrimordialAtom

    Slave, if you think the tone of their latter albums is 'synthetic', I suggest getting your ears cleaned. Stat. The guitar tone alone is testament to that; it's barely even distorted and much more overdriven. Also, the fact that althefknamsrtkn has absolutely no fucking clue about what triggering involves is not surprising. DsO are as far removed from most 'metal' as Godflesh are from the beatles, so your point about them validating something they don't even belong to is completely moot, and try hard in the extreme. Also, fuck Judas Priest.

    Friday afternoon
  • belgiumsucks

    @SlaveOfN1|: Shut up, Simonas. Also, look up proper usage of the word "platonic ." @Everbody else writing long, boring sentences, which are made up of a ton of uninformative words; all striving to out-paragraph the previous dipshits' posts: What are you actually going on about ? Seriously ? You know nothing about this band, or about what instruments were or weren't used on the more recent recordings of DsO. You are debating about nothing over nothing and for those who were never impressed by this band: What ? You want a fucking refund on all those albums you downloaded for free off of the Internet, or what ? If your posts on here don't prove just how scatterbrained most of you posting on here are about music, then your "how-are-you-hun ? I'm-good-how-about-you-hun" ping-pong shouts are a good indication as to how moronic you are/worthless you're "opinions" are. You write out a bunch of shit all day long, attempting to get smarter, or what ?

    Friday morning
  • SlaveOfN1l

    I personally hear the "mechanical/synthetic" elements in later DSO but that only applies in a production/instrumentation kind of way. It doesn't make the composition or the overall effect of the songs disingenuous to me. [2] My point exactly, metal isn't as artistically Platonic as the autistic losers over at ANUS make it out to be

    Friday morning
  • JBThazard

    Also, I don't think people believe that things "need" to be intellectually reaffirmed, the reason why people like to learn or like to become smarter (and that's including devaluing the opinions of others by calling them pseudo-intellectuals, because using big academic buzzwords like ostentatious or pretentious is its own kind of veiled intellect) is because people like discovery and new perspectives. They do it because they can and want to. No one makes music because they absolutely have to or need to. Contrary to what a fraction of people claim on this site with groups like "Music is my Girl/Boyfriend" people can survive relatively easily without music or any intellectual/artistic notions related to music. I personally hear the "mechanical/synthetic" elements in later DSO but that only applies in a production/instrumentation kind of way. It doesn't make the composition or the overall affect of the songs disingenuous to me.

    last week
  • JBThazard

    It sounds like it's time to ask ourselves what exactly is the spirit of metal. Is it music first, musicians second, or the other way around? Because if it's music first, then the final product of the listening experience (synthetic drums versus a man with drumsticks) shouldn't matter very much, if at all. If a musical idea wants to portray something that would otherwise be too difficult for a person to physically manage or execute, then I don't see a problem with that. One reason why I don't care for DJing is because they perform sounds that are well within the limits of the human body to perform, but the argument to that is that one-man bands can be convenient in the same way that an electronic device with multiple functions is more useful than a book.

    last week
  • Jureiko

    *althefknamsrtkn*, in one of your journals you criticize behavior when people "broadcast to everyone that--wink wink--they know better". Isn't that exactly what you're doing here ? You listen to hellhammer, bathory and venom and come to DsO shoutbox to criticize their music for some bullshit reason like programmed drums of ''lack of true metal spirit''. You're the one who's missing the point not DsO

    last week
  • belgiumsucks

    I write a second post to see my second post. Because I'm smart, too.

    last month
  • belgiumsucks

    @althefknamsrtkn: Who are you ? You seim "seam"... I mean, seem like a are really smarty person. You are is know what your... I mean, you're talking about and I should know about these things cause I reed.. I mean, read through some of them "shouts" you leave yourself through other user names... And I am sure you is smart. If someone on hear... I mean, here challenges against something you write about the knowledge you have about bands and music and shite, then I will tell them you're smart. OK? By the way, I seed whar u like dumb shit metal bands and so I thinked parhaps you should check out a non-existence, physically, band who is fronted by a semi-good drummer who pays overgrown semi-retarded guys to write the music (and programme the drums which this drummer will play live if they ever get a gig). This band is up your fucking alley of shit, I think: http://www.lastfm.fr/music/Henker

    last month
  • althefknamsrtkn

    That their later stuff is "inorganic" seems like a natural byproduct of conforming to every modern metal recording/production cliche, rather than an artistic decision. Regardless of how smarty-pants their songwriting & aesthetic is. DSO are grandmasters at missing the point. All that cheesy 'evil' mathrock noodling and purple Latinese, and they still have no concept of the 'spirit' that made metal awesome. The whole thing is an exercise in "intellectually validating" something that doesn't need to be intellectually validated. Conan the Barbarian doesn't need "abstract" nonlinear storytelling and and existentialist poetry shoehorned in

    last month
  • althefknamsrtkn

    Triggers signify an extreme lack of taste to me. I just get no joy listening to some DJ drummer pretending to hit pads like a drummer hits drums.

    last month
  • SlaveOfN1l

    Chaotic yes, but DsO's sound after Kenose can be described as anything but organic, unless your idea of organic is astroturf, my poor deaf friend

    last month
  • PrimordialAtom

    "Considering that DsO deliberately goes for a mechanical, synthetic sound on their later material".. << That's just absolute bollocks. One of the things which attracted me to them was how organic and 'loose' their sound was. Chaotic, yes. Synthetic, definitely not. It's almost as if you haven't a clue about what you speak of, which is so rare on here...

    last month
  • SlaveOfN1l

    Two main assumptions go into that train of thought, the first being that effort is an indication of authenticity, and the second being that enjoying music created by "talented" individuals is an indication of objectively good taste, both of which I find rather silly, especially in the context of metal, since much of the most classic material out there has historically been created by musicians with relatively scant compositional and technical finesse. Triggers, synthesized drums, and the like are merely tools, much like a guitar or a "natural" drum kit, that one may say is used either properly or improperly depending on the overall quality of the final result, but shouldn't carry much of a stigma in itself. Then again, some instruments are so intimately associated in a symbolic and subcultural manner with certain music genres (the cult of the guitar, for example), that deviation from its ideal is seen as a betrayal of authenticity.

    last month
  • JBThazard

    People can enjoy things easier if they know a lot of effort went into it. They want to believe they had the sensibility and taste to discover super talented musicians, even regardless of the final product sometimes, so finding out that something was done mechanically as opposed to "sincerely" or "authentically" is a blow to their ego.

    last month
  • SlaveOfN1l

    Considering that DsO deliberately goes for a mechanical, synthetic sound on their later material, it only makes sense aesthetically for them to use synthetic, programmed, and/or triggered drums. People just get worked up over it due to a misguided need for "authenticity" in instrumentation, an attitude prevalent in the metal scene, that satisfies more of a philosophical scruple with regard to the music detached from actual enjoyment of the music itself.

    last month
  • dark_wisdom

    what;s wrong with drum triggers? I've read lots of people bashing drummers who use triggers but since I'm kind of inept when it comes to drumming I can't fully understand the reason. Also, I cannot agree more with this sentence: next level black metal.

    last month
  • ColonelTheSlav

    Tomorrow.

    last month
  • DemonKogure666

    When they playing warped tour??

    last month
  • DonDonald

    Never was that impressed by this band, but I finally gave Paracletus a listen to; it's incredible stuff. Not something you can hear a snippet of and decide whether you like them or not.

    last month
  • jrmy-lfbv

    It not best French BM.

    August 2014
  • xVictimOfADownx

    Yeah, definitely triggered, but definitely not programmed.

    August 2014
  • gigibriv

    I love "Si Monvmentvm..." album. Great band

    August 2014
  • versionfiv

    definitely triggered though. anyone who says otherwise is an eggplant

    August 2014
  • Colonel_Mole

    I don't think they are. And as belgiumsucks noted I know lots about programmed drums

    August 2014
  • ColonelTheSlav

    Definitely not programmed.

    August 2014
  • Astral-Blood

    After Si Monumentum the drums may, or may not, be programmed.

    August 2014
  • AbrasiveMurk

    The real drums unlike Blut aus Nord.

    August 2014
  • ArrTheMesia

    Can someone say me, please: Deathspell Omega has the real or programmed drums?

    August 2014
  • candlesmoke

    mkay

    August 2014
  • ColonelTheSlav

    Diabolus Absconditus and Mass Grave Aesthetics were reissues of older material so the 1 album 1 EP still holds but whatever.

    August 2014
  • candlesmoke

    si Monumentum requires, circumspice is followed by one ep, the following albums, two eps each, so I'm not sure you can attribute any logic to that. plus, a trilogy is a trilogy after all, the eps aren't necessarily relevant to this. but yeah, neither is this topic very relevant. next level black metal, indeed.

    August 2014
  • The_Curator

    NEXT LEVEL BLACK METAL

    August 2014
  • The_Curator

    @candlesmoke In case you hadn't noticed every album is postfaced with an EP

    August 2014
  • ColonelTheSlav

    It's too early to decide if they did quit or not for sure anyway. It has been two years since the last release, considering how long it takes them to make an album there's still plenty of time for hopeful waiting.

    August 2014
  • candlesmoke

    no, they have not split up. it's ridiculous to air such an opinion if you have naught to back it up with. and, the metaphysical trilogy was completed already with paracletus, not drought.

    August 2014
  • AbrasiveMurk

    RIP in peace.

    August 2014
  • Alexandros888

    They should do an album about satan (2)

    July 2014
  • leonidascomet

    Meh...

    July 2014