Art By Numbers
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Anthony Chacon: Vocals
Victor Corral: Guitar
Dustin Georgeson: Guitar
Miguel Ortega: Bass
Dennis Peraza: Drums
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Progressive Post-Hardcore
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Fresno, California
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Epsilon_X2008
You're really, really stupid. I hope you know that. I listened to "shitty mallcore fashion bands" like 6 years ago maybe, and sometimes I get nostalgic, but you're the only person here saying that any band sucks. I'm simply saying that there is a difference between progressive music and technical music. I've provided NUMEROUS points, examples, explanation, but you're too retarded to even read because you're ignoring that and saying the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, which i've proven to not be true. Grow up. (i only came back because I got bored and wanted to see what retarded thing you tried saying now)
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Scapegoat69
@Epsilon_X2008 LOL You're really mad cause I said the truth about your genericore bands. It's funny cause you like to put nonsense comments about a band you propably don't like, but when the band you listen/like it has been criticized, you jump like a cat with claws out lulz. The learning here for you is: stop being a dickhead and not because you like or not a band make it good, bad or whatever. Admit it or not these guys have more talent than most of the bands you listen, so you could said is wankery and non-progressive but Art by Numbers plays more innovative music and kick more asses than the shittymallcore fasion bands you like, so the next time think twice before you came here posting bullshit, you moron.
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xVictimOfADownx
v Scapegoat is just an pretentious elitist, no need to take him seriously.
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Epsilon_X2008
For the record, I never said Art By Numbers sucked, only that technical wanking presented in a lot of so called progressive music such as BTBAM doesn't make it progressive, it only makes it technical. Technical =/= progressive.
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Epsilon_X2008
You also keep mentioning some kind of "fashioncore." I like blessthefall, old Escape the Fate, and BMTH for nostalgia reasons. The new BMTH album is pretty cool I will admit, and I like how much they've grown as a band, but I don't listen to that kind of music. In fact, if you get rid of any of the nostalgia appeal, I really don't like it at all. Dir En Grey used to wear elaborate stage outfits, but they ditched those because they felt like it was distracting from their music (though, their music was still good while they wore such costumes) Now, unless you can provide some sort of logical rebuttal to any of the points I have brought up (which you have been unable to do up until now) don't expect me to reply. I won't waste any further time arguing with somebody as pathetic and stupid as you.
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Epsilon_X2008
My whole point was that technicality alone doesn't make music progressive. Now, let's take a look at your points. "LOL U LISTEN TO ASKING ALEXANDRIA SO YOU SUCK" You have said NOTHING intelligent, NOTHING useful, NOTHING constructive. Only things that are a complete and utter waste of time. I told you i'm not an asking alexandria fan. I've just listened to them before. On top of that, the only time I listen to them, it is one of two or three songs. That hardly qualifies me as a fan, yet you can't seem to comprehend this. You're too stuck up on this inconsequential little detail to actually come up with some sort of intelligent counter point to anything I have said. You also mentioned Nirvana. I have 4 Nirvana plays. 4. FOUR. How listening to 4 songs by any band out of almost 20,000 total plays has anything to do with anything is beyond me.
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Epsilon_X2008
True progressive rock is bands that always push the boundaries of the genre that they are in and the boundaries of music in general. Older bands like Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush, etc. were doing things that nobody else had done at the time, they were constantly progressing. Hence "progressive rock." Fast forward a bit. Bands like art by numbers, The Human Abstract (who I like), Periphery, and Within The Ruins combine technical riffs and metal. That's not progressive, it's technical metal. Note: nowhere did I EVER say that not being progressive was bad, just that it's not progressive. Dir En Grey don't follow any other sort of band, every album has them pushing their limits and progressing their sound. They combine various genres into their music, take influence from many places, and actually blending it together. Between the buried and me throwing random genres into their technicality isn't progressive. It can be interesting, it can be good, but it's not progressive.
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Scapegoat69
Art by Numbers >>>>>>>>>> @Epsilon_X2008 favorite shitty generic fashioncore bands.
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Scapegoat69
V What are your arguments? "Their albums sounds nothing alike" LOL that's not experimenting, kid. And I can say the same, it's obviously that you haven't listened real progressive rock/metal, so don't come here trying to be "interesting" and "the master of music" cause you aren't, you're only proving that your an asshole and you don't know anything about what you're talking. You want a wanky fest? Go listen Bmth and Asking Alexandria or similar bullshit. End of story.
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Epsilon_X2008
You've obviously never listened to Dir En Grey...nor did you even bother to read what I said OR provide any sort of counter argument. Only a bunch of idiotic drivel. Seems you're the one who's retarded.
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Scapegoat69
V Yeah, your fashioncore bands are better than ABN (sarcasm). Dir en grey experimenting? LOL can't stop laughing. First go listen to real progressive music before you came here writing about something that you don't know, you retarded moron.
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Epsilon_X2008
I -have- listened to songs by nirvana and asking alexandria, doesn't make me a fan. Not sure why it matters, though, seeing as how I never claimed them to be prog.. I don't understand how you can lump Dir En Grey in with those bands though. But yeah, I do want to tell you what's progressive. Throwing technical riffs together isn't progressive, it's just technical. Dir En Grey are much more progressive in the sense that every album is a big step forward and they refuse to sit down. There is lots of experimentation in their music (see: Agitated Screams of Maggots Unplugged) and no two albums sound anything alike. Art By Numbers are like a combination of everything that The Human Abstract and Between the Buried and Me have done for years, except not as heavy. By the way, good job defending your band. You brought up some really good points. loljk no you didn't.
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Scapegoat69
V You listen to Nirvana, BMTH, Asking Alexandria and Dir En Grey and you want to come to talk us about what is progressive and what is not? LOL you fail trolling, jeaulosy faggot ...This band is awesome btw.
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Epsilon_X2008
I agree with thewatcho. Most of this "prog" metalcore is just chuggy riffs with arpeggios all over the place. That's not progressive, it's just wanky.
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Swase
On of my fav bands, great material, good staff.
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Anastasia_Bes
You're one of my favourite groups! Godlike x) Thanks for your songs! With love from Russia fans! <3
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PaT2090
You're nit-picking at what the progressive metal genre should be, not what Art by Numbers should be.
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TheWatcho
@Shuttyjohnbutty... you've got a point there, mmm, I won't complain about BTBAM, I don't like all of their material, but they are still a good band, and yeah... prog metal, although heavily 'metalcore' infused, which I (99%) don't like. Still, my initial point was that ABN wasn't metal, nor prog metal, because wanking sweeps in every song is not prog (that's why sweep pickin' maestros like Yngwie aren't considered PROG) ... specially if every song has almost the same structure. ABN is not original (repetitive chugg riff + sweep over = not prog), is not creative, almost every song sounds the same, they suck and they are pretentious by tagging themselves as "Prog" musicians, which they clearly aren't. BTW, the whole Pantera thing you said makes no sense.
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niqpwnz
interesting..
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shuttyjohnbutty
Ok, I'll humour @TheWatcho... Although honestly I can't tell if they're trolling, or just stupid. You can't say a band isn't [this genre] because they weren't founded in [this genres] boundaries. You know that Pantera were a glam rock band at first? Yeah? Proper hair metal? Did they not become one of the biggest hardcore / metal bands going? Surely if both BTBAM and ABN are 'influnced by, [therefore they are of the same genre as, because logic] metalcore bands', which itself is influenced by metal, that's just a really roundabout way of saying that you don't really know what you're talking about. tl;dr BTBAM sound more like dream theater than black flag, therefore they're prog metal
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