Best Shoegazing Albums Poll

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- vrongel said...
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- 3 Nov 2004, 10:56
Best Shoegazing Albums Poll

Do you agree with this list ?

Best Showgazing Albums:
1. My Bloody Valentine - loveless [creation] 1991
2. Ride - nowhere [creation] 1990
3. Slowdive - just for a day [creation] 1991
4. Chapterhouse - whirlpool [dedicated] 1991
5. Lush - spooky [4ad] 1992

[quote][b][user]vrongel[/user][/b] said: Do you agree with this list ? Best Showgazing Albums: 1. My Bloody Valentine - loveless [creation] 1991 2. Ride - nowhere [creation] 1990 3. Slowdive - just for a day [creation] 1991 4. Chapterhouse - whirlpool [dedicated] 1991 5. Lush - spooky [4ad] 1992 [/quote]

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- avalyn2 said...
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- 4 Nov 2004, 00:23
Personally I don't rate Spooky that highly and prefer Souvlaki to Just for a Day.
Here's my top 10 list I posted for shoegaze.co.uk's top 10 poll.
1 Everything's alright forever - The Boo Radleys
2 Souvlaki - Slowdive
3 Nowhere - Ride
4 A storm in heaven - Verve
5 Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
6 Comforts of Madness - Pale Saints
7 Young Team - Mogwai
8 Taste - The Telescopes
9 Delaware - Drop Nineteens
10 Bowery Electric - Bowery Electric
in roughly that order for me.

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[quote][b][user]avalyn2[/user][/b] said: Personally I don't rate Spooky that highly and prefer Souvlaki to Just for a Day. Here's my top 10 list I posted for [url=http://www.shoegaze.co.uk/shoegazeforum/viewtopic.php?t=172&start=0]shoegaze.co.uk's top 10 poll[/url]. 1 Everything's alright forever - The Boo Radleys 2 Souvlaki - Slowdive 3 Nowhere - Ride 4 A storm in heaven - Verve 5 Loveless - My Bloody Valentine 6 Comforts of Madness - Pale Saints 7 Young Team - Mogwai 8 Taste - The Telescopes 9 Delaware - Drop Nineteens 10 Bowery Electric - Bowery Electric in roughly that order for me.[/quote]

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- qwstarplayer said...
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- 16 Nov 2004, 10:21
i like con dolore - this sad movie :((

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[quote][b][user]qwstarplayer[/user][/b] said: i like con dolore - this sad movie :(([/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 20 Dec 2004, 08:44
I think I would put Gala up there instead of Spooky. I'd also add Garlands by the Cocteau Twins and Ferment by Catherine Wheel.

...maybe Treasure by the Cocteau Twins, as well.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: I think I would put Gala up there instead of Spooky. I'd also add Garlands by the Cocteau Twins and Ferment by Catherine Wheel. ...maybe Treasure by the Cocteau Twins, as well.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 27 Jan 2005, 01:26
Re: Best Shoegazing Albums Poll

Quoth vrongel:
Do you agree with this list ?

Best Showgazing Albums:
1. My Bloody Valentine - loveless [creation] 1991
2. Ride - nowhere [creation] 1990
3. Slowdive - just for a day [creation] 1991
4. Chapterhouse - whirlpool [dedicated] 1991
5. Lush - spooky [4ad] 1992

wow, i couldn't agree more with your top 4. nice choices. I'm going to put a twist in here for #5 and say Dead Cities... by M83.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth vrongel[/b]: Do you agree with this list ? Best Showgazing Albums: 1. My Bloody Valentine - loveless [creation] 1991 2. Ride - nowhere [creation] 1990 3. Slowdive - just for a day [creation] 1991 4. Chapterhouse - whirlpool [dedicated] 1991 5. Lush - spooky [4ad] 1992 [/quote] wow, i couldn't agree more with your top 4. nice choices. I'm going to put a twist in here for #5 and say Dead Cities... by M83.[/quote]

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- Modern_Myth said...
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- 4 Oct 2005, 02:33
Additions

Oh geez, I can't believe I forgot some of those :| Well, here's my quarter:

Velocity Girl - Copacetic. Though just one song, Here Comes should be somewhere in the mids

Medicine from their 5EP .... Time Baby III, the softer version
Slowdive of course, especially Allison in a room that echos well
Drop 19's but I'd change that the album version of My Aquarium
Low from their Transmission EP, though that might be a little strong for some shoegazin'
And to end that listening hour I'd put Unrest's Cath Carroll and an encore for that last track you need before you get off your butt.
Not really a top ten here and more precise, but I figure it's the necessities you need for an afternoon of staring at yer friends shoes.

[quote][b][user]Modern_Myth[/user][/b] said: Oh geez, I can't believe I forgot some of those :| Well, here's my quarter: Velocity Girl - Copacetic. Though just one song, Here Comes should be somewhere in the mids Medicine from their 5EP .... Time Baby III, the softer version Slowdive of course, especially Allison in a room that echos well Drop 19's but I'd change that the album version of My Aquarium Low from their Transmission EP, though that might be a little strong for some shoegazin' And to end that listening hour I'd put Unrest's Cath Carroll and an encore for that last track you need before you get off your butt. Not really a top ten here and more precise, but I figure it's the necessities you need for an afternoon of staring at yer friends shoes. [/quote]

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- drsaunde said...
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- 11 Oct 2005, 21:32
Many of mine have already been mentioned, so i'll one add one more that has been ignored (so far)

Cast - All Change

[quote][b][user]drsaunde[/user][/b] said: Many of mine have already been mentioned, so i'll one add one more that has been ignored (so far) Cast - All Change[/quote]

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- safesurfer said...
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- 12 Oct 2005, 09:45
Great Moments In Shoegazing & Tapdancing

Keeping it to one album pr artist:

1. Ride - Going Blank Again
2. Slowdive - Souvlaki
3. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
4. Swervedriver - Mezcal Head
5. Lush - Split
6. Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
7. MBV - Loveless
8. For Against - Coalesced
9. Engineers - Engineers
10. Blind Mr. Jones - Stereo Musicale

[quote][b][user]safesurfer[/user][/b] said: Keeping it to one album pr artist: 1. Ride - Going Blank Again 2. Slowdive - Souvlaki 3. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool 4. Swervedriver - Mezcal Head 5. Lush - Split 6. Boo Radleys - Giant Steps 7. MBV - Loveless 8. For Against - Coalesced 9. Engineers - Engineers 10. Blind Mr. Jones - Stereo Musicale[/quote]

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- coastal said...
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- 15 Oct 2005, 21:41
my 10 would be (in alphabetical order cause I can't decide the placings)

Amusement Parks On Fire - Amusement Parks On Fire
Boo Radleys - Everything's alright forever
Flying Saucer Attack - Flying Saucer Attack
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't anything or Loveless depending on mood
Lilys - In the presence of nothing
Lush - Gala _{(ok, not a proper album)}
Ride - Nowhere
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Swervedriver - Mezcal Head
The Telescopes - Taste

[quote][b][user]coastal[/user][/b] said: my 10 would be (in alphabetical order cause I can't decide the placings) Amusement Parks On Fire - Amusement Parks On Fire Boo Radleys - Everything's alright forever Flying Saucer Attack - Flying Saucer Attack My Bloody Valentine - Isn't anything or Loveless depending on mood Lilys - In the presence of nothing Lush - Gala [sub](ok, not a proper album)[/sub] Ride - Nowhere Slowdive - Souvlaki Swervedriver - Mezcal Head The Telescopes - Taste [/quote]
Edited by coastal on 15 Oct 2005, 21:42

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- shoobridge said...
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- 8 Nov 2005, 05:18
The shoegazing pantheon

1. Clearly MBV's Loveless is in a class by itself. Nothing so avant-garde and yet so unutterably beautiful had been created before as "popular" music(or has been since). We folks who bought it on the day of release are still waiting for the follow up - I haven't been out for fourteen years because of this bloody record...

2. The Boo Radleys' Giant Steps and Everything's All Right Forever are both indispensable. While critical opinion favors Giant Steps, I prefer the emotional rawness of EARF. Forget the Britpop contamination and remember them this way...

3. Lush - Gala. Okay, so this is a compliation of EPs, but what a compilation. I remember being smitten by Sweetness and Light the very first time I heard it and can remember its impact to this day some fifteen years later. Spooky is a great album, but there is something about the earlier releases...maybe it's the nostalgia in waiting for the next EP release, which, for those who don't remember, was what the shoegaze movement was based on...

4. Curve - Pubic Fruit. Now some might argue that Curve were not really shoegaze, but I say to them "pah, I was there in London at the time. I have the stagediving scars to prove it". This compilation of the first three EPs is extraordinary - check out Coast is Clear if you don't believe me! Nothing they recorded subsequently can compete. Sorry Toni.

5. This has got to be Catherine Wheel's Ferment. Not strictly part of the "scene" for some, but if anyone could show how SG and conventional rock structures could co-exist, it was this band. Of course, they never received their due...

6. Ride - Going Blank Again. I love to listen to everything Ride did, but this was the album on which they actually learned to write real songs. I can pass on the guitar textures of Nowhere and the early EPs, but Twisteralla is indispensable in the annals of great pop songs. An album that it's impossible to listen to and not to fall in love to...just find someone!

7. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool. Possibly the epitome of the shoegaze sound. Unfairly maligned in life, so support them now! Someone needs to reissue their first four EPs...

8. Adorable - Against Perfection. This could almost constitute the swan song of shoegaze, just before Oasis kicked this music in the gonads. This album sounds as though it's hovering the cusp of a change in style, from the dense, submerged vocals to a more overt presentation of the voice and the song. Oh, if only circumstances had been different...

9. The Death of Cool by Kitchens of Distinction. This is wonderful - soaring skyscrapers of guitars and feedback and a singer who sounds like a more tuneful Ian Curtis. What more could one ask for? A band that was unjustly neglected in life (and in death)...

Note: there's no Swervedriver here, because I don't think they qualify as shoegaze. Fabulous, but they're a different genre entirely...

I haven't included Slowdive because I never really fell in love with them at the time and one's first impressions seem to be indelible...besides, they always seem to have enough folks to bat for them.

You need to get The Comforts of Madness by Pale Saints (I saw them with the Boo Radleys at the London Astoria in 1992 and they were very good, even though they announced that they were splitting up that night. They probably did that after most gigs!!!), anything by Revolver and Moose and Blind Mr Jones. And Swallow, who only made one album (on 4AD)...

And remember, although none of this is fashionable, it is not forgotten. A day will come when...

[quote][b][user]shoobridge[/user][/b] said: 1. Clearly MBV's Loveless is in a class by itself. Nothing so avant-garde and yet so unutterably beautiful had been created before as "popular" music(or has been since). We folks who bought it on the day of release are still waiting for the follow up - I haven't been out for fourteen years because of this bloody record... 2. The Boo Radleys' Giant Steps and Everything's All Right Forever are both indispensable. While critical opinion favors Giant Steps, I prefer the emotional rawness of EARF. Forget the Britpop contamination and remember them this way... 3. Lush - Gala. Okay, so this is a compliation of EPs, but what a compilation. I remember being smitten by Sweetness and Light the very first time I heard it and can remember its impact to this day some fifteen years later. Spooky is a great album, but there is something about the earlier releases...maybe it's the nostalgia in waiting for the next EP release, which, for those who don't remember, was what the shoegaze movement was based on... 4. Curve - Pubic Fruit. Now some might argue that Curve were not really shoegaze, but I say to them "pah, I was there in London at the time. I have the stagediving scars to prove it". This compilation of the first three EPs is extraordinary - check out Coast is Clear if you don't believe me! Nothing they recorded subsequently can compete. Sorry Toni. 5. This has got to be Catherine Wheel's Ferment. Not strictly part of the "scene" for some, but if anyone could show how SG and conventional rock structures could co-exist, it was this band. Of course, they never received their due... 6. Ride - Going Blank Again. I love to listen to everything Ride did, but this was the album on which they actually learned to write real songs. I can pass on the guitar textures of Nowhere and the early EPs, but Twisteralla is indispensable in the annals of great pop songs. An album that it's impossible to listen to and not to fall in love to...just find someone! 7. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool. Possibly the epitome of the shoegaze sound. Unfairly maligned in life, so support them now! Someone needs to reissue their first four EPs... 8. Adorable - Against Perfection. This could almost constitute the swan song of shoegaze, just before Oasis kicked this music in the gonads. This album sounds as though it's hovering the cusp of a change in style, from the dense, submerged vocals to a more overt presentation of the voice and the song. Oh, if only circumstances had been different... 9. The Death of Cool by Kitchens of Distinction. This is wonderful - soaring skyscrapers of guitars and feedback and a singer who sounds like a more tuneful Ian Curtis. What more could one ask for? A band that was unjustly neglected in life (and in death)... Note: there's no Swervedriver here, because I don't think they qualify as shoegaze. Fabulous, but they're a different genre entirely... I haven't included Slowdive because I never really fell in love with them at the time and one's first impressions seem to be indelible...besides, they always seem to have enough folks to bat for them. You need to get The Comforts of Madness by Pale Saints (I saw them with the Boo Radleys at the London Astoria in 1992 and they were very good, even though they announced that they were splitting up that night. They probably did that after most gigs!!!), anything by Revolver and Moose and Blind Mr Jones. And Swallow, who only made one album (on 4AD)... And remember, although none of this is fashionable, it is not forgotten. A day will come when...[/quote]

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- avalyn2 said...
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- 6 Dec 2005, 01:16
nice post shoobridge.
i agree with quite a lot of your views, although quite how you never fell in love with Slowdive if you were around at the time I don't know.

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[quote][b][user]avalyn2[/user][/b] said: nice post shoobridge. i agree with quite a lot of your views, although quite how you never fell in love with Slowdive if you were around at the time I don't know.[/quote]

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- Crocodiles said...
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- 9 Dec 2005, 03:15
I prefer "head over heels" for a disc by the cocteau twins.

maybe its the fact that i bought it when i really depressed, but it seriously, (along with Loveless) has woken me up from serious mental darkness many times in the past, and continually today.

[quote][b][user]Crocodiles[/user][/b] said: I prefer "head over heels" for a disc by the cocteau twins. maybe its the fact that i bought it when i really depressed, but it seriously, (along with Loveless) has woken me up from serious mental darkness many times in the past, and continually today. [/quote]

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- ZpoonZ said...
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- 8 Feb 2006, 16:24
i think at the time, the shoegazing thing for me was more about EPs and 12"s.
sure i got the albums too, but when i think of that time, i think of buying and repeatedly playing the 12"s more than the LPs.
so i'm going to do it that way! like best shoegazing records
:)

slowdive: slowdive, morningrise, holding our breath.
their first 3 eps. amazing! i prefer these (they were collected as 'blue day', but with some songs missing) to 'just for a day'. actually, apart from the much later pygmalion (which i don't really class as shoegazing), i still think it's their best stuff. if i was going to plump for a shoegaze album by them, i'd say souvlaki. still, it's not as good as the first eps.

boo radleys: 'boo up!', 'every heaven'.
again, the radleys' best stuff. 'tortoiseshell', 'the finest kiss' 'foster's van' 'everybird'. i don't think everything's alright forever lived up to this stuff. these two eps were awesome.

chapterhouse: 'pearl'
the song pearl is a shoegaze classic! compounded by the fact that rachel goswel from slowdive did backing vocals. i mean how much more qualification do you need?!?
the haunting b-side from it though, still wipe me out when i listen to it.
'come heaven' and 'in my arms' are my two favourite chapterhouse songs (though i'm not sure they're strictly shoegazing songs!)

my bloody valentine: 'feed me with your kiss', 'you made me realise', 'glider', 'tremolo'
ok, so feed me, and you made me, were a lot earlier than the official shoegazing period, but didn't they get re-released? i know all my mates had them, and we all played them to death. i can't seperate those two records from the loveless stuff in my mind, when i'm thinking of that period. i'd definitely say that feed me, and you made me are MBV's best stuff, as much as i love the loveless stuff (including the EPs)

curve: 'blindfold', 'frozen', 'cherry'.
ok, maybe not so much cherry as the other two. but those two records were amazing. soon afterwards, we all realised that curve were a one trick pony, and that all their records (apart from the amazing 'chinese burn') were going to sound EXACTLY the same. but hearing those first two eps was wicked.

lush: 'black spring'.
i never really got into lush in a big way, i just didn't rate them as much as the other bands around. but this record was wicked. again, i could stomach an ep of theirs, but not the album!

telescopes: 'celeste', 'flying', 'everso'
i love this era telescopes. i love the untitled LP that gets slated! it remains one of my all-time favourite records. but also, you got the chord book with the album, so you could like be in shoegazing bands with your mates! :)
(well, admitedly, it's not strictly a shoegazing record. i'd say 'flying' was though.)
the celeste bassline is amazing!

swervedriver: 'rave down'
now you could argue that they aren't proper shoegazing, and more rocky. (and some already have!) but they were lumped together with the shoegazing bands, by the press at the time. and they have the swirly guitar stuff going on, albeit with a harder edge.
cracking band though!

ride: 'ride', 'play', 'fall'
for a sart, fall had the amazing 'nowhere' song, that wasn't on the vinyl release of the 'nowhere' LP! and the original 'ride' ep was pretty much at the start of the whole thing. again, i liked the LP nowhere, but it wasn't as important as the EPs to me.

there's ONE exception to the EP thing!

cocteau twins: heaven or las vegas
i'd still rate this as one of my favourite albums of all time. it's easily my favourite cocteau twins record (although i know people will disagree with that!)

honourable mentions go to catherine wheel for 'black metallic' and also, and you're going to disagree here spacemen 3 for 'recurring'. now it's not strictly shoegazing, (well ok, it's not shoegazing at all!) but i remember them as almost part of that scene. the spirit of it. the spaced out-ness of it.
i went to see spiritualised when they were gigging during the spacemen 3 split, before they released laser guided melodies. they were really loud! really guitary and definitely shoegazery!

*phew*

OK, so it's a long post, and slightly off topic too!
i just hope that talking about those eps, and sitting around in your mates bedrooms listening to them as they came out, brings back similar memories for other people too!
:)

[quote][b][user]ZpoonZ[/user][/b] said: i think at the time, the shoegazing thing for me was more about EPs and 12"s. sure i got the albums too, but when i think of that time, i think of buying and repeatedly playing the 12"s more than the LPs. so i'm going to do it that way! like best shoegazing [i]records[/i] :) slowdive: slowdive, morningrise, holding our breath. their first 3 eps. amazing! i prefer these (they were collected as 'blue day', but with some songs missing) to 'just for a day'. actually, apart from the much later pygmalion (which i don't really class as shoegazing), i still think it's their best stuff. if i was going to plump for a shoegaze album by them, i'd say souvlaki. still, it's not as good as the first eps. boo radleys: 'boo up!', 'every heaven'. again, the radleys' best stuff. 'tortoiseshell', 'the finest kiss' 'foster's van' 'everybird'. i don't think everything's alright forever lived up to this stuff. these two eps were awesome. chapterhouse: 'pearl' the song pearl is a shoegaze classic! compounded by the fact that rachel goswel from slowdive did backing vocals. i mean how much more qualification do you need?!? the haunting b-side from it though, still wipe me out when i listen to it. 'come heaven' and 'in my arms' are my two favourite chapterhouse songs (though i'm not sure they're strictly shoegazing songs!) my bloody valentine: 'feed me with your kiss', 'you made me realise', 'glider', 'tremolo' ok, so feed me, and you made me, were a lot earlier than the official shoegazing period, but didn't they get re-released? i know all my mates had them, and we all played them to death. i can't seperate those two records from the loveless stuff in my mind, when i'm thinking of that period. i'd definitely say that feed me, and you made me are MBV's best stuff, as much as i love the loveless stuff (including the EPs) curve: 'blindfold', 'frozen', 'cherry'. ok, maybe not so much cherry as the other two. but those two records were amazing. soon afterwards, we all realised that curve were a one trick pony, and that all their records (apart from the amazing 'chinese burn') were going to sound EXACTLY the same. but hearing those first two eps was wicked. lush: 'black spring'. i never really got into lush in a big way, i just didn't rate them as much as the other bands around. but this record was wicked. again, i could stomach an ep of theirs, but not the album! telescopes: 'celeste', 'flying', 'everso' i love this era telescopes. i love the untitled LP that gets slated! it remains one of my all-time favourite records. but also, you got the chord book with the album, so you could like be in shoegazing bands with your mates! :) (well, admitedly, it's not strictly a shoegazing record. i'd say 'flying' was though.) the celeste bassline is amazing! swervedriver: 'rave down' now you could argue that they aren't proper shoegazing, and more rocky. (and some already have!) but they were lumped together with the shoegazing bands, by the press at the time. and they have the swirly guitar stuff going on, albeit with a harder edge. cracking band though! ride: 'ride', 'play', 'fall' for a sart, fall had the amazing 'nowhere' song, that wasn't on the vinyl release of the 'nowhere' LP! and the original 'ride' ep was pretty much at the start of the whole thing. again, i liked the LP nowhere, but it wasn't as important as the EPs to me. there's ONE exception to the EP thing! cocteau twins: heaven or las vegas i'd still rate this as one of my favourite albums of all time. it's easily my favourite cocteau twins record (although i know people will disagree with that!) honourable mentions go to catherine wheel for 'black metallic' and also, and you're going to disagree here spacemen 3 for 'recurring'. now it's not strictly shoegazing, (well ok, it's not shoegazing at all!) but i remember them as almost part of that scene. the spirit of it. the spaced out-ness of it. i went to see spiritualised when they were gigging during the spacemen 3 split, before they released laser guided melodies. they were really loud! really guitary and definitely shoegazery! *phew* OK, so it's a long post, and slightly off topic too! i just hope that talking about those eps, and sitting around in your mates bedrooms listening to them as they came out, brings back similar memories for other people too! :)[/quote]

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- avalyn2 said...
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- 17 Feb 2006, 00:56
shoegaze EPs

Quoth ZpoonZ:
i think at the time, the shoegazing thing for me was more about EPs and 12"s.
I totally agree with you, but maybe that's an age thing because we were around buying records at the birth?
but certainly the better tracks seemed to be found on the EPs (before sometimes appearing on an album)

slowdive: slowdive, morningrise, holding our breath.
yep, I fell in love with the 1st one.
and then later before Souvlaki was released there was Outside Your Room EP with Alison, Souvlaki Space Station and So Tired.

boo radleys: 'boo up!', 'every heaven'.
oh yes, and nicely pulled together on Learning To Walk although it shouldn;t really be listened to end to end.
I disagree with you on EAF as I think the album really works well too.

chapterhouse: 'pearl'
and can I add Mesmerise EP ? I'd almost forgotten it myself until a couple of years ago, but well worth checking out.
their first 2 were also good, but the better tracks were put on Whirlpool so I'd heard have that album already when it was released, which made it less special to me.

my bloody valentine: 'feed me with your kiss', 'you made me realise', 'glider', 'tremolo'
can't argue there, and i think in a way 'feed me with your kiss' and 'you made me realise' inspired the first wave of shoegazers, whereas Loveless inspired the 2nd wave.
all 5 songs on You Made Me Realise are great - total classic.

curve: 'blindfold', 'frozen', 'cherry'.
was there fait accompli as well ?
and I agree that they never lived up to that early promise.

lush: 'black spring'.
don't remember this one!
my memory is of Deluxe and Sweetness & Light.
and again, Spooky just didn't live up to it - it sounded too samey for me.

telescopes: 'celeste', 'flying', 'everso'
don't forget the Precious Little EP, which is another of my faves with 4 great tracks.
and which one had Pure Sweetest Ocean on it, as that's great too.

swervedriver: 'rave down'
never a fan myself

ride: 'ride', 'play', 'fall'
aboslutely, Drive Blind on the Ride EP started it all off for me after I heard it in an indie club in Jan/Feb 90.
although I think Nowhere is one album that did stand up on its own when it was released, although we'd already heard the mighty Dreams Burn Down on the Fall EP (and I remember waiting 6 months for that to be released after hearing it live and aching to hear it again!).
and then don't forget Today Forever which came after nowhere but has the mighty Unfamiliar on it and 3 other good tracks - that was another i'd forgotten until I got OX4 (the best of Ride)

honourable mentions go to catherine wheel for 'black metallic'
absolutely another classic ep for me with 4 great tracks, more in a later Talk Talk vein, but also their first 2 EPs are decent, with again the better songs put on Ferment

I think you've also forgotten:

Cool Breeze EP which i adore for not only Suzanne but Untitled Love Song and Speak To Me. Also their Jack EP and their 3rd one (title evades me), some of which were gathered together on Sonny of Sam.

Half-Life and also Flesh Balloon which came in between Comforts of Madness and In Ribbons.

i just hope that talking about those eps, and sitting around in your mates bedrooms listening to them as they came out, brings back similar memories for other people too!
:)
thanks for the (similar) memories, and inspired me to compare notes with you.
i'd already started my own tags classic ep so feel free to add to my chosen ones.
finally, check out the Sonic Cathedral London club night, now doing a mini-tour, and their logo of all that classic cover art http://soniccathedral.co.uk/images/flyers/images/erol.jpg

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[quote][b][user]avalyn2[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]ZpoonZ[/user][/b]: i think at the time, the shoegazing thing for me was more about EPs and 12"s.[/quote] I totally agree with you, but maybe that's an age thing because we were around buying records at the birth? but certainly the better tracks seemed to be found on the EPs (before sometimes appearing on an album) [quote]slowdive: slowdive, morningrise, holding our breath.[/quote] yep, I fell in love with the 1st one. and then later before Souvlaki was released there was [album artist=slowdive]outside your room ep[/album] with Alison, Souvlaki Space Station and So Tired. [quote]boo radleys: 'boo up!', 'every heaven'.[/quote] oh yes, and nicely pulled together on [album artist=the boo radleys]learning to walk[/album] although it shouldn;t really be listened to end to end. I disagree with you on EAF as I think the album really works well too. [quote]chapterhouse: 'pearl'[/quote] and can I add Mesmerise EP ? I'd almost forgotten it myself until a couple of years ago, but well worth checking out. their first 2 were also good, but the better tracks were put on [album artist=chapterhouse]Whirlpool[/album] so I'd heard have that album already when it was released, which made it less special to me. [quote]my bloody valentine: 'feed me with your kiss', 'you made me realise', 'glider', 'tremolo'[/quote] can't argue there, and i think in a way 'feed me with your kiss' and 'you made me realise' inspired the first wave of shoegazers, whereas Loveless inspired the 2nd wave. all 5 songs on [album artist=my bloody valentine]you made me realise[/album] are great - total classic. [quote]curve: 'blindfold', 'frozen', 'cherry'.[/quote] was there fait accompli as well ? and I agree that they never lived up to that early promise. [quote]lush: 'black spring'.[/quote] don't remember this one! my memory is of Deluxe and Sweetness & Light. and again, Spooky just didn't live up to it - it sounded too samey for me. [quote]telescopes: 'celeste', 'flying', 'everso'[/quote] don't forget the Precious Little EP, which is another of my faves with 4 great tracks. and which one had Pure Sweetest Ocean on it, as that's great too. [quote]swervedriver: 'rave down'[/quote] never a fan myself [quote]ride: 'ride', 'play', 'fall'[/quote] aboslutely, Drive Blind on the Ride EP started it all off for me after I heard it in an indie club in Jan/Feb 90. although I think [album artist=ride]nowhere[/album] is one album that did stand up on its own when it was released, although we'd already heard the mighty Dreams Burn Down on the Fall EP (and I remember waiting 6 months for that to be released after hearing it live and aching to hear it again!). and then don't forget [album artist=ride]today forever[/album] which came after nowhere but has the mighty Unfamiliar on it and 3 other good tracks - that was another i'd forgotten until I got OX4 (the best of Ride) [quote]honourable mentions go to catherine wheel for 'black metallic'[/quote] absolutely another classic ep for me with 4 great tracks, more in a later Talk Talk vein, but also their first 2 EPs are decent, with again the better songs put on [album artist=catherine wheel]ferment[/album] I think you've also forgotten: [album artist=moose]cool breeze ep[/album] which i adore for not only Suzanne but Untitled Love Song and Speak To Me. Also their Jack EP and their 3rd one (title evades me), some of which were gathered together on Sonny of Sam. [album artist=pale saints]half-life[/album] and also [album artist=pale saints]flesh balloon[/album] which came in between Comforts of Madness and In Ribbons. [quote]i just hope that talking about those eps, and sitting around in your mates bedrooms listening to them as they came out, brings back similar memories for other people too! :)[/quote] thanks for the (similar) memories, and inspired me to compare notes with you. i'd already started my own tags [tag]classic ep[/tag] so feel free to add to my chosen ones. finally, check out the Sonic Cathedral London club night, now doing a mini-tour, and their logo of all that classic cover art [url]http://soniccathedral.co.uk/images/flyers/images/erol.jpg[/url] [/quote]

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- ZpoonZ said...
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- 19 Feb 2006, 22:14
Re: shoegaze EPs

Quoth avalyn2:finally, check out the Sonic Cathedral London club night, now doing a mini-tour, and their logo of all that classic cover art http://soniccathedral.co.uk/images/flyers/images/erol.jpg
awesome. cheers for the heads up!
i'm round that way (well, at bethnal green) on a thursday, for some night schoolin', so i'll try and make it over.

[quote][b][user]ZpoonZ[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]avalyn2[/user][/b]:finally, check out the Sonic Cathedral London club night, now doing a mini-tour, and their logo of all that classic cover art [url]http://soniccathedral.co.uk/images/flyers/images/erol.jpg[/url] [/quote] awesome. cheers for the heads up! i'm round that way (well, at bethnal green) on a thursday, for some night schoolin', so i'll try and make it over.[/quote]

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- iwannacookie29 said...
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- 22 Mar 2006, 09:08
anyone who doesnt have loveless first should reconsider their understanding of shoegazing.

[quote][b][user]iwannacookie29[/user][/b] said: anyone who doesnt have loveless first should reconsider their understanding of shoegazing.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 23 Mar 2006, 04:38
loveless > shoegaze

(album, not song)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: loveless > shoegaze (album, not song)[/quote]

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- durhammag said...
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- 29 Mar 2006, 12:03
How to start a fight............

Hi all. Am new to this forum and I am going to be deeply, deeply contentious right from the off but......

My Bloody Valentine were NOT a shoegazing band!!!! When they released Isn't Anything, it was simply so off the radar of what was going on at the time, it started a snowball. This snowball gained momentum and bands like Ride, Boo Radleys et al emerged, simply trying to ape the sonic landscape that MBV created on Isn't Anything. Isn't Anything owed more to the feedback heavy bedrock of The Jesus and Mary Chain than to anything that followed (see Feed Me with your Kiss or When you Wake). and was nearer to it's original influence than it was to it's imitators. In the intervening 4 years between Isn't Anything and Loveless, the shoe-gazing thing grew with the emergence of the bands mentioned above until Loveless was released in 1992 and exposed every other band for the copyists that they were. Loveless took the original idea and interlaced it with the emerging "dance" elements to create a truely astonishing album.

Now, I am not saying all of the other bands were bad, far from it, but I remember how generic they were, indeed culminating in the Scene that Celebrated Itself.

This will either create absolutely no reaction, dismissed as a ramble, or hopefully, some debate.

Rock Family trees: Ride --> MBV --> Jesus and Mary Chain --> Bo Diddley. So can we intimate that Bo Diddley wa the Godfather of Shoegaze?!?

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[quote][b][user]durhammag[/user][/b] said: Hi all. Am new to this forum and I am going to be deeply, deeply contentious right from the off but...... My Bloody Valentine were NOT a shoegazing band!!!! When they released Isn't Anything, it was simply so off the radar of what was going on at the time, it started a snowball. This snowball gained momentum and bands like Ride, Boo Radleys et al emerged, simply trying to ape the sonic landscape that MBV created on Isn't Anything. Isn't Anything owed more to the feedback heavy bedrock of The Jesus and Mary Chain than to anything that followed (see Feed Me with your Kiss or When you Wake). and was nearer to it's original influence than it was to it's imitators. In the intervening 4 years between Isn't Anything and Loveless, the shoe-gazing thing grew with the emergence of the bands mentioned above until Loveless was released in 1992 and exposed every other band for the copyists that they were. Loveless took the original idea and interlaced it with the emerging "dance" elements to create a truely astonishing album. Now, I am not saying all of the other bands were bad, far from it, but I remember how generic they were, indeed culminating in the Scene that Celebrated Itself. This will either create absolutely no reaction, dismissed as a ramble, or hopefully, some debate. Rock Family trees: Ride --> MBV --> Jesus and Mary Chain --> Bo Diddley. So can we intimate that Bo Diddley wa the Godfather of Shoegaze?!? [/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 30 Mar 2006, 06:04
Re: How to start a fight............

Quoth durhammag:
Hi all. Am new to this forum and I am going to be deeply, deeply contentious right from the off but......

My Bloody Valentine were NOT a shoegazing band!!!! When they released Isn't Anything, it was simply so off the radar of what was going on at the time, it started a snowball. This snowball gained momentum and bands like Ride, Boo Radleys et al emerged, simply trying to ape the sonic landscape that MBV created on Isn't Anything. Isn't Anything owed more to the feedback heavy bedrock of The Jesus and Mary Chain than to anything that followed (see Feed Me with your Kiss or When you Wake). and was nearer to it's original influence than it was to it's imitators. In the intervening 4 years between Isn't Anything and Loveless, the shoe-gazing thing grew with the emergence of the bands mentioned above until Loveless was released in 1992 and exposed every other band for the copyists that they were. Loveless took the original idea and interlaced it with the emerging "dance" elements to create a truely astonishing album.

Now, I am not saying all of the other bands were bad, far from it, but I remember how generic they were, indeed culminating in the Scene that Celebrated Itself.

This will either create absolutely no reaction, dismissed as a ramble, or hopefully, some debate.

Rock Family trees: Ride --> MBV --> Jesus and Mary Chain --> Bo Diddley. So can we intimate that Bo Diddley wa the Godfather of Shoegaze?!?

+1

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]durhammag[/user][/b]: Hi all. Am new to this forum and I am going to be deeply, deeply contentious right from the off but...... My Bloody Valentine were NOT a shoegazing band!!!! When they released Isn't Anything, it was simply so off the radar of what was going on at the time, it started a snowball. This snowball gained momentum and bands like Ride, Boo Radleys et al emerged, simply trying to ape the sonic landscape that MBV created on Isn't Anything. Isn't Anything owed more to the feedback heavy bedrock of The Jesus and Mary Chain than to anything that followed (see Feed Me with your Kiss or When you Wake). and was nearer to it's original influence than it was to it's imitators. In the intervening 4 years between Isn't Anything and Loveless, the shoe-gazing thing grew with the emergence of the bands mentioned above until Loveless was released in 1992 and exposed every other band for the copyists that they were. Loveless took the original idea and interlaced it with the emerging "dance" elements to create a truely astonishing album. Now, I am not saying all of the other bands were bad, far from it, but I remember how generic they were, indeed culminating in the Scene that Celebrated Itself. This will either create absolutely no reaction, dismissed as a ramble, or hopefully, some debate. Rock Family trees: Ride --> MBV --> Jesus and Mary Chain --> Bo Diddley. So can we intimate that Bo Diddley wa the Godfather of Shoegaze?!? [/quote] +1 [/quote]

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- ZpoonZ said...
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- 15 May 2006, 22:35
have to disagree there.
shoegazing originally came from the bands behaviour on stage. basically looking down at their various pedals, and not moving much. (hence shoegazing!) the term later came to be associated with the sound.

i saw MBV around the loveless period, and i can report that they were most definitely shoegazers!
:)

[quote][b][user]ZpoonZ[/user][/b] said: have to disagree there. shoegazing originally came from the bands behaviour on stage. basically looking down at their various pedals, and not moving much. (hence shoegazing!) the term later came to be associated with the sound. i saw MBV around the loveless period, and i can report that they were most definitely shoegazers! :)[/quote]

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- safesurfer said...
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- 17 May 2006, 13:46
MBV is far more akin to Sonic Youth than Jesus & Mary Chain. IMO.

Amen.

[quote][b][user]safesurfer[/user][/b] said: MBV is far more akin to Sonic Youth than Jesus & Mary Chain. IMO. Amen. [/quote]

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- marrmarr said...
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- 24 May 2006, 19:48
Hm, i can't say a top ten cause i don't think i know ten shoegaze-albums, but my favorites are Isn't Anything, Loveless, Beat (Bowery Electric) and Nowhere with Ride.

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[quote][b][user]marrmarr[/user][/b] said: Hm, i can't say a top ten cause i don't think i know ten shoegaze-albums, but my favorites are Isn't Anything, Loveless, Beat (Bowery Electric) and Nowhere with Ride.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 12 Jul 2006, 03:32
hammock's kenotic definitely ranks pretty high up there. souvlaki is an easy no. 1 though.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: hammock's kenotic definitely ranks pretty high up there. souvlaki is an easy no. 1 though.[/quote]

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- dissent_ said...
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- 16 Jul 2006, 23:26
I would say:

1. Nowhere, Ride
2. Souvlaki, Slowdive
3. Loveless, My Bloody Valentine
4. Whirlpool, Chapterhouse
5. The Death of Cool, Kitchens of Distinction
6. Just for a Day, Slowdive
7. Isn't Anything, My Bloody
8. Citrus, Asobi Seksu
9. Going Blank Again, Ride
10. The Comforts of Madness, Pale Saints

I could interchange #10 for Telescopes, Spiritualized, Loop, Radio Dept, Amusement Parks or Serena-Maneesh. Everything beyond the first 9 is pretty close.

[quote][b][user]dissent_[/user][/b] said: I would say: 1. Nowhere, Ride 2. Souvlaki, Slowdive 3. Loveless, My Bloody Valentine 4. Whirlpool, Chapterhouse 5. The Death of Cool, Kitchens of Distinction 6. Just for a Day, Slowdive 7. Isn't Anything, My Bloody 8. Citrus, Asobi Seksu 9. Going Blank Again, Ride 10. The Comforts of Madness, Pale Saints I could interchange #10 for Telescopes, Spiritualized, Loop, Radio Dept, Amusement Parks or Serena-Maneesh. Everything beyond the first 9 is pretty close. [/quote]

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- tschanel said...
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- 4 Aug 2006, 21:29
1. MBV Loveless
2. Slowdive - Souvlaki
3. Ride - Going Blank Again
4. Catherine Wheel - Ferment
5. Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
6. Slowdive - Just for a Day
7. Swervedriver - Raise
8. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
9. Pale Saints - IN Ribbons
10. Radio Dept - Pulling Our Weight EP

[quote][b][user]tschanel[/user][/b] said: 1. MBV Loveless 2. Slowdive - Souvlaki 3. Ride - Going Blank Again 4. Catherine Wheel - Ferment 5. Boo Radleys - Giant Steps 6. Slowdive - Just for a Day 7. Swervedriver - Raise 8. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool 9. Pale Saints - IN Ribbons 10. Radio Dept - Pulling Our Weight EP [/quote]

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