Artists I should connect to this group

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- connect_icut said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 18:54
Okay, Okay...

...so I'll add Mandelbrot Set and 65daysofstatic!

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: ...so I'll add Mandelbrot Set and 65daysofstatic![/quote]

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- lucasizit said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 19:46
:P im not arguing btw
it IS your group
just if you want it to be just for original post rock
just state it :P

cause it is birlliant to remember and appretiate the
founders of post rock

people SHOULD recognise originality

so i think maybe change the name to original uk post rock or something
or state it on the group details
so you wont get all of the users who love for example mogwai flood your group

cause you have said early 90's but mogwai does still fall into this category really

[quote][b][user]lucasizit[/user][/b] said: :P im not arguing btw it IS your group just if you want it to be just for original post rock just state it :P cause it is birlliant to remember and appretiate the founders of post rock people SHOULD recognise originality so i think maybe change the name to original uk post rock or something or state it on the group details so you wont get all of the users who love for example mogwai flood your group cause you have said early 90's but mogwai does still fall into this category really[/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 20:23
Unfortunately, you can't change the name of the Last FM Group. I think the descriptions at the top of the overview page lay out the remit pretty clearly, though.

Having said that, I'm totally into talking about newer British post-rock groups, especially those in the spirit of/inspired by the original scene e.g. Hood, Epic 45 etc.

And to give them their credit, I believe Mogwai originally formed in 1995, when the first wave of British post-rock was probably still pretty active.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: Unfortunately, you can't change the name of the Last FM Group. I think the descriptions at the top of the overview page lay out the remit pretty clearly, though. Having said that, I'm totally into talking about newer British post-rock groups, especially those in the spirit of/inspired by the original scene e.g. Hood, Epic 45 etc. And to give them their credit, I believe Mogwai originally formed in 1995, when the first wave of British post-rock was probably still pretty active.[/quote]

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- lucasizit said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 20:31
ahh something i dont understand about hood
if you can help me out

ive got quite a few tracks off their site ... all old ones
and singles compiled is coming in the post

all their old stuff is amazing
you can tell through the years theyve gained experience and added some
good atmospheric noises like on "they removed all trace that anything had ever happened here"

but then theres some new tracks like "the lost you"
that sound almost remixed if you see what i mean

did they gradually move away from post rock ?

[quote][b][user]lucasizit[/user][/b] said: ahh something i dont understand about hood if you can help me out ive got quite a few tracks off their site ... all old ones and singles compiled is coming in the post all their old stuff is amazing you can tell through the years theyve gained experience and added some good atmospheric noises like on "they removed all trace that anything had ever happened here" but then theres some new tracks like "the lost you" that sound almost remixed if you see what i mean did they gradually move away from post rock ?[/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 20:40
It's always been pretty common for British post-rock bands to start off as fairly conventional rock bands and gradually introduce more abstract/electronic elements (see Disco Inferno, Scorn, Main etc...) I haven't followed Hood that closely but I suspect this is the trajectory they've followed. They've certainly been open about what a massive influence DI had on them, while being very keen about introducing elements from newer genres like glitch and post-rap.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: It's always been pretty common for British post-rock bands to start off as fairly conventional rock bands and gradually introduce more abstract/electronic elements (see Disco Inferno, Scorn, Main etc...) I haven't followed Hood that closely but I suspect this is the trajectory they've followed. They've certainly been open about what a massive influence DI had on them, while being very keen about introducing elements from newer genres like glitch and post-rap.[/quote]

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- lucasizit said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 21:11
Shame, they had a great thing going on.
The newer stuff is still good.
But they have some amazing tracks even recorded on cassette that outdo the new.

That may be another reason, they were recording by cassette to begin with
so they may not have had the means to introduce such beats and sounds as they have done in their newer material.

o just to throw something in for a mix of conversation
Public Image Ltd.
(British group Public Image Ltd (PiL) were also pioneers, described by the NME[11] as "arguably the first post-rock group." ) from wiki

i know there not 90's but its uk post rock right ?
just thought id se whats said about this
tbh

sex pistols were punk
and when i hear PIL i still hear punk

i dont think they deserve the title that NME gave them
do you ?

[quote][b][user]lucasizit[/user][/b] said: Shame, they had a great thing going on. The newer stuff is still good. But they have some amazing tracks even recorded on cassette that outdo the new. That may be another reason, they were recording by cassette to begin with so they may not have had the means to introduce such beats and sounds as they have done in their newer material. o just to throw something in for a mix of conversation Public Image Ltd. (British group Public Image Ltd (PiL) were also pioneers, described by the NME[11] as "arguably the first post-rock group." ) from wiki i know there not 90's but its uk post rock right ? just thought id se whats said about this tbh sex pistols were punk and when i hear PIL i still hear punk i dont think they deserve the title that NME gave them do you ?[/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 21:19
PiL

Well, they've already been mention in this thread and for what it's worth, I think that PiL were just as important to the development of British post-rock as Talk Talk were. Listen to "Metal Box" and "Evanescence" by Scorn back-to-back and you'll see what I mean. In particular, PiL's use of elements from dub reggae, African American dance music and German kosmiche musik is relevant as it's exactly the kind of thing that marks early post-rock out from contemporary post-rock.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: Well, they've already been mention in [url=http://www.last.fm/group/UK+Post-Rock/forum/118725/_/524285]this thread[/url] and for what it's worth, I think that PiL were just as important to the development of British post-rock as Talk Talk were. Listen to "Metal Box" and "Evanescence" by Scorn back-to-back and you'll see what I mean. In particular, PiL's use of elements from dub reggae, African American dance music and German kosmiche musik is relevant as it's exactly the kind of thing that marks early post-rock out from contemporary post-rock.[/quote]

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- lucasizit said...
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- 21 Apr 2009, 21:23
ahh i hadn't read that thread sorry :P

[quote][b][user]lucasizit[/user][/b] said: ahh i hadn't read that thread sorry :P [/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 23 Apr 2009, 22:00
No to Mogwai

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[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: .[/quote]

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- nickwatt said...
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- 25 Apr 2009, 20:00
Digging around in the nether reaches of my record collection I found a few other interesting bands that you might want to add - Savoy Grand, Plone, Dakota Suite and Electralane. Not sure if any of these have been mentioned elsewhere (too many lists kicking around now)....

Not from the UK but of potential interest to late period Talk Talk fans include a Belgian group called Bed (check out Spacebox on Last.fm), Norway's White Birch and Swede's Anywhen...

Man In A Shed

[quote][b][user]nickwatt[/user][/b] said: Digging around in the nether reaches of my record collection I found a few other interesting bands that you might want to add - Savoy Grand, Plone, Dakota Suite and Electralane. Not sure if any of these have been mentioned elsewhere (too many lists kicking around now).... Not from the UK but of potential interest to late period Talk Talk fans include a Belgian group called Bed (check out Spacebox on Last.fm), Norway's White Birch and Swede's Anywhen... [/quote]

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- termcap said...
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- 28 Apr 2009, 13:15
Ganger

You should consider connecting Ganger.

[quote][b][user]termcap[/user][/b] said: You should consider connecting [artist]Ganger[/artist]. [/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 28 Apr 2009, 21:58
I think Ganger were on the original "long list". They must have fallen victim to the recent cull. I have re-instated them on termcap's behalf.

I've added Electrelane to list too.

I'm leaving Mogwai on the list for now. If this decision results in a suitable degree of (highly amusing) outrage, I'll remove them.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: I think Ganger were on the original "long list". They must have fallen victim to the recent cull. I have re-instated them on termcap's behalf. I've added Electrelane to list too. I'm leaving Mogwai on the list for now. If this decision results in a suitable degree of (highly amusing) outrage, I'll remove them.[/quote]

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- Tree-Fingers said...
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- 29 Apr 2009, 21:13
Cocteau Twins and Fridge, anyone?

I say we keep Mogwai, by the way.

[quote][b][user]Tree-Fingers[/user][/b] said: Cocteau Twins and Fridge, anyone? I say we keep Mogwai, by the way.[/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 30 Apr 2009, 04:22
How did I manage to leave Fridge off the list? Perhaps I deleted them by mistake. Happiness is a great album and I think Fridge did a very tasteful job of assimilating Tortoise-style US post-rock into the British sound. The extremely vitriolic review of their new compilation in this month's Wire magazine is pretty funny, though.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: How did I manage to leave Fridge off the list? Perhaps I deleted them by mistake. [album artist=Fridge]Happiness[/album] is a great album and I think Fridge did a very tasteful job of assimilating Tortoise-style US post-rock into the British sound. The extremely vitriolic review of their new compilation in this month's Wire magazine is pretty funny, though. [/quote]

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- eyesaresmiles said...
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- 1 May 2009, 01:42
I'd keep Mogwai out, but then again I love most of the 'original' post-rockers you mention and dont like almost any of the 2nd wave. Mogwai are mediocre for me.

Butterfly Child?
David Sylvian?
Arab Strap?

Perhaps they don't fit snugly in the box but ...

[quote][b][user]eyesaresmiles[/user][/b] said: I'd keep Mogwai out, but then again I love most of the 'original' post-rockers you mention and dont like almost any of the 2nd wave. Mogwai are mediocre for me. Butterfly Child? David Sylvian? Arab Strap? Perhaps they don't fit snugly in the box but ... [/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 1 May 2009, 02:39
Butterfly Child were already on the list but I'm glad you mentioned them because it gives me a chance to let slip the fact that I just received a cassette featuring Peel Sessions by BC and Papa Sprain. All things being equal, MP3 versions should be forthcoming.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: Butterfly Child were already on the list but I'm glad you mentioned them because it gives me a chance to let slip the fact that I just received a cassette featuring Peel Sessions by BC and Papa Sprain. All things being equal, MP3 versions should be forthcoming.[/quote]

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- richardgrant said...
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- 26 Jun 2009, 12:42
scala?

locust?

[quote][b][user]richardgrant[/user][/b] said: scala? locust?[/quote]

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- connect_icut said...
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- 26 Jun 2009, 16:16
Good suggestions.

Scala are already on the list.

Locust were on the old "long list" but I took them off, mainly because I thought they were Dutch or Belgian or something. A little research suggests they were in fact British, so I'll re-add them.

http://csaf-records.com/

http://bubblegumcage3.com/

[quote][b][user]connect_icut[/user][/b] said: Good suggestions. Scala are already on the list. Locust were on the old "long list" but I took them off, mainly because I thought they were Dutch or Belgian or something. A little research suggests they were in fact British, so I'll re-add them.[/quote]

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- richardgrant said...
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- 28 Jun 2009, 09:01
The Wolfgang Press - (even though their most interesting stuff is late '80s "birdwoodcage' and 91 - 'queer' i still think they should make the cut!)

Cindytalk - 'wappinshcaw (94)' and their early stuff too.

Colourbox - again too early...damn.

[quote][b][user]richardgrant[/user][/b] said: The Wolfgang Press - (even though their most interesting stuff is late '80s "birdwoodcage' and 91 - 'queer' i still think they should make the cut!) Cindytalk - 'wappinshcaw (94)' and their early stuff too. Colourbox - again too early...damn.[/quote]

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- Gman1969 said...
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- 10 Jun 2011, 18:36
I was just listening to Eardrum and it occurred to me that they'd be relevant to this group:

http://www.last.fm/music/Eardrum?ac=eardr

They main guy behind them is Lou Ciccotelli, who was the drummer in God and also played on some of Laika’s records. They released a couple of really good albums about 10 years ago on Leaf records. It’s a really rhythmic, tribal sound that’s somewhere between the “4th World Music” of Jon Hassell and Toop & Eastley’s ‘Buried Dreams’ album. It’s also not a million miles way from some of ‘O’Rang and Techno Animal’s stuff.

[quote][b][user]Gman1969[/user][/b] said: I was just listening to Eardrum and it occurred to me that they'd be relevant to this group: http://www.last.fm/music/Eardrum?ac=eardr They main guy behind them is Lou Ciccotelli, who was the drummer in God and also played on some of Laika’s records. They released a couple of really good albums about 10 years ago on Leaf records. It’s a really rhythmic, tribal sound that’s somewhere between the “4th World Music” of Jon Hassell and Toop & Eastley’s ‘Buried Dreams’ album. It’s also not a million miles way from some of ‘O’Rang and Techno Animal’s stuff.[/quote]

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- Mount_Analogue said...
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- 15 Jun 2011, 18:41
Lou Ciccotelli was also in Ice with Justin Broadrick and Kevin Martin, Mass with Gary Smith (from Aufgehoben), and going way back he was also in Slab!. Never heard Eardrum though, so thanks for the tip.

[quote][b][user]Mount_Analogue[/user][/b] said: Lou Ciccotelli was also in Ice with Justin Broadrick and Kevin Martin, Mass with Gary Smith (from Aufgehoben), and going way back he was also in Slab!. Never heard Eardrum though, so thanks for the tip.[/quote]

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- Gman1969 said...
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- 16 Jun 2011, 09:03
I didn’t know he’d been in Slab! I’ve got their ‘Descension’ album from 87 (and remember quite enjoying it at the time).

[quote][b][user]Gman1969[/user][/b] said: I didn’t know he’d been in Slab! I’ve got their ‘Descension’ album from 87 (and remember quite enjoying it at the time).[/quote]

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- Mount_Analogue said...
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- 17 Jun 2011, 12:50
Don't think he's on 'Descension', but he was on the album after that (Sanity Allergy)

[quote][b][user]Mount_Analogue[/user][/b] said: Don't think he's on 'Descension', but he was on the album after that (Sanity Allergy)[/quote]

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- tarrare said...
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- 8 Feb 2012, 18:49
what about Woo? A definite Durutti Column vibe...at least on their album "It's Cozy Inside"

[quote][b][user]tarrare[/user][/b] said: what about [artist]Woo[/artist]? A definite Durutti Column vibe...at least on their album "It's Cozy Inside"[/quote]

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- dev_artrosis said...
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- 13 Apr 2012, 22:28
Do You know Union Wireless?
Saturn Ascension Experiments is fantastic.

And maybe Transona Five too?

[quote][b][user]dev_artrosis[/user][/b] said: Do You know [artist]Union Wireless[/artist]? [album artist=union wireless]saturn Ascension Experiments[/album] is fantastic. And maybe [artist]Transona Five[/artist] too? [/quote]

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