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"The Old Masters Of Electronic Music" group, time for a change?

- DanielPoell said...
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- 18 Sep 2007, 22:02
"The Old Masters Of Electronic Music" group, time for a change?

Until now this group only handled with a few artists, particularly artists which had a great impact on the development of electronic music from approximately 1975-1985 (where many electronic music genres have their roots).
At that time electronic music (+ equipment) developed extremely, a huge variety of new music genres and styles where created and synthesized music became really popular.
Most people associate early electronic music with this period of time, that’s why this group name was chosen.

But as the history of electronic music starts at a much earlier decade of time, criticism regarding to our groups name increase(also a legetimate claim in my eyes)

So my dear last.fm brothers and sisters, what is your opinion about this concern and what would you like to see changed in this group (e.g. artist connections, time periods …)

Post your ideas, critics or wishes here.

[quote][b][user]DanielPoell[/user][/b] said: Until now this group only handled with a few artists, particularly artists which had a great impact on the development of electronic music from approximately 1975-1985 (where many electronic music genres have their roots). At that time electronic music (+ equipment) developed extremely, a huge variety of new music genres and styles where created and synthesized music became really popular. Most people associate early electronic music with this period of time,[u] that’s why this group name was chosen.[/u] [b]But as the history of electronic music starts at a much earlier decade of time, criticism regarding to our groups name increase[/b](also a legetimate claim in my eyes) So my dear last.fm brothers and sisters, what is your opinion about this concern and what would you like to see changed in this group (e.g. artist connections, time periods …) [i]Post your ideas, critics or wishes here.[/i][/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 3 Nov 2007, 21:07
connections:

Maryanne Amacher, Bulent Arel, Art of Noise, Robert Ashley, Ashra, Milton Babbitt, Louis and Bebe Barron, Franco Battiato, Les Baxter, François Bayle, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, Paul Beaver, David Behrman, Robert Beyer, Tim Blake, David Borden, David Bowie, Cabaret Voltaire, John Cage, Wendy Carlos, John Chowning, Cluster, The Cosmic Jokers, Alvin Curran, Holger Czukay, Mario Davidovsky, Martin Denny, Delia Derbyshire, Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft, Tod Dockstader, Charles Dodge, Herbert Eimert, Halim El-Dabh, The Electronic Concept Orchestra, Brian Eno, Fad Gadget, Larry Fast, Luc Ferrari, Ercolino Ferretti, John Foxx, Edgar Froese, Mort Garson, Manuel Göttsching, Bruce Haack, Jan Hammer, Herbie Hancock, Harmonia, George Harrison, Jon Hassel, Richard Hayman, Heldon, Pierre Henry, Michael Hoenig, Samuel J. Hoffman, The Human League, Dick Hyman, Jean-Michel Jarre, Gershon Kingsley, Kitaro, Kluster, Kraftwerk, Bernie Krause, La Düsseldorf, Landscape, Paul Lansky, Hugh LeCaine, The Legendary Pink Dots, Cecil Leuter, Alvin Lucier, Otto Luening, Richard Maxfield, Olivier Messiaen, Ilhan Mimaroglu, Dieter Moebius, Giorgio Moroder, Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co., Gordon Mumma, Musica Elettronica Viva, Nino Nardini, NON, The Normal, Gary Numan, Nurse With Wound, Pauline Oliveros, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Bernard Parmegiani, Jean-Jaques Perrey, Conrad Plank, Popol Vuh, Premature Ejaculation, Eliane Radigue, Steve Reich, The Residents, Rhythm & Noise, Boyd Rice, Robert Rich, Terry Riley, Jean-Claude Risset, Steve Roach, Clara Rockmore, Hans-Joachim Roedelius, Roger Roger, Michael Rother, François de Roubaix, Oskar Sala, Pierre Schaeffer, Conrad Schnitzler, Klaus Schulze, Raymond Scott, Alice Shields, Silver Apples, Pril Smiley, Soft Cell, Space, Space Art, Laurie Spiegel, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Morton Subotnick, Suicide, Synergy, Tangerine Dream, Paul Tanner, Richard Teitelbaum, Telex, Georges Teperino, Throbbing Gristle, Asmus Tietchens, Isao Tomita, TONTO's Expanding Head Band, Gil Trythal, Tubeway Army, David Tudor, Ultravox, Vladimir Ussachevsky, Vangelis, Edgard Varese, White Noise, Klaus Wunderlich, Iannis Xenakis, Yello, Yellow Magic Orchesta, LaMonte Young, Joji Yuasa, Joe Zawinul, The Zodiac, Zorch

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: connections: Maryanne Amacher, Bulent Arel, Art of Noise, Robert Ashley, Ashra, Milton Babbitt, Louis and Bebe Barron, Franco Battiato, Les Baxter, François Bayle, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, Paul Beaver, David Behrman, Robert Beyer, Tim Blake, David Borden, David Bowie, Cabaret Voltaire, John Cage, Wendy Carlos, John Chowning, Cluster, The Cosmic Jokers, Alvin Curran, Holger Czukay, Mario Davidovsky, Martin Denny, Delia Derbyshire, Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft, Tod Dockstader, Charles Dodge, Herbert Eimert, Halim El-Dabh, The Electronic Concept Orchestra, Brian Eno, Fad Gadget, Larry Fast, Luc Ferrari, Ercolino Ferretti, John Foxx, Edgar Froese, Mort Garson, Manuel Göttsching, Bruce Haack, Jan Hammer, Herbie Hancock, Harmonia, George Harrison, Jon Hassel, Richard Hayman, Heldon, Pierre Henry, Michael Hoenig, Samuel J. Hoffman, The Human League, Dick Hyman, Jean-Michel Jarre, Gershon Kingsley, Kitaro, Kluster, Kraftwerk, Bernie Krause, La Düsseldorf, Landscape, Paul Lansky, Hugh LeCaine, The Legendary Pink Dots, Cecil Leuter, Alvin Lucier, Otto Luening, Richard Maxfield, Olivier Messiaen, Ilhan Mimaroglu, Dieter Moebius, Giorgio Moroder, Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co., Gordon Mumma, Musica Elettronica Viva, Nino Nardini, NON, The Normal, Gary Numan, Nurse With Wound, Pauline Oliveros, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Bernard Parmegiani, Jean-Jaques Perrey, Conrad Plank, Popol Vuh, Premature Ejaculation, Eliane Radigue, Steve Reich, The Residents, Rhythm & Noise, Boyd Rice, Robert Rich, Terry Riley, Jean-Claude Risset, Steve Roach, Clara Rockmore, Hans-Joachim Roedelius, Roger Roger, Michael Rother, François de Roubaix, Oskar Sala, Pierre Schaeffer, Conrad Schnitzler, Klaus Schulze, Raymond Scott, Alice Shields, Silver Apples, Pril Smiley, Soft Cell, Space, Space Art, Laurie Spiegel, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Morton Subotnick, Suicide, Synergy, Tangerine Dream, Paul Tanner, Richard Teitelbaum, Telex, Georges Teperino, Throbbing Gristle, Asmus Tietchens, Isao Tomita, TONTO's Expanding Head Band, Gil Trythal, Tubeway Army, David Tudor, Ultravox, Vladimir Ussachevsky, Vangelis, Edgard Varese, White Noise, Klaus Wunderlich, Iannis Xenakis, Yello, Yellow Magic Orchesta, LaMonte Young, Joji Yuasa, Joe Zawinul, The Zodiac, Zorch[/quote]

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- DanielPoell said...
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- 30 Nov 2007, 20:36
heartwarmig reply, will ad some!

[quote][b][user]DanielPoell[/user][/b] said: heartwarmig reply, will ad some![/quote]

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- DanielPoell said...
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- 30 Nov 2007, 20:36
everyone might also feel free to pm me.

[quote][b][user]DanielPoell[/user][/b] said: everyone might also feel free to pm me.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 6 Apr 2008, 20:01
How about Alexander Robotnick?

:D

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: How about Alexander Robotnick? :D[/quote]

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- flashbleu said...
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- 8 May 2008, 14:22
Todd Tamanend Clark
Sensations' Fix
Beaver & Krause
Fifty Foot Hose
A.R. & Machines

put - him - in - the - curry

[quote][b][user]flashbleu[/user][/b] said: Todd Tamanend Clark Sensations' Fix Beaver & Krause Fifty Foot Hose A.R. & Machines[/quote]

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- DanielPoell said...
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- 9 May 2008, 13:29
update!

[quote][b][user]DanielPoell[/user][/b] said: update![/quote]

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- Mr_Ferraille said...
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- 15 Jun 2008, 16:13
Dan Lacksman and The Discotheque Sound-Pop
Dick Jacobs and The Electro-Sonic Orchestra
The Electric Concept Orchestra
Dick Hyman
V.Mescherin's Orchestra

Hollywood Super Stars

Monsieur Ferraille

[quote][b][user]Mr_Ferraille[/user][/b] said: [artist]Dan Lacksman[/artist] and [artist]The Discotheque Sound-Pop[/artist] [artist]Dick Jacobs[/artist] and [artist]The Electro-Sonic Orchestra[/artist] [artist]The Electric Concept Orchestra[/artist] [artist]Dick Hyman[/artist] [artist]V.Mescherin's Orchestra[/artist] [/quote]

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- RanDallkMeyer said...
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- 12 Sep 2008, 01:17
I was there in '75 - all Analog

I was there in '75 , all analog, but in '75 i felt like the new kid on the block. So i just absorbed everything i could from the Masters then and silently went about my daily recording. When digital moved in, the general consensus at the time was: " Hey old man, analog is out. It's all digital so put your analog monsters in the closet".
Then i met Phillip Glass, and he told me something that put 'everything in it's right place' . He said: " I really love your work! The machines we use are simply that - They are machines; they're our tools. Use your tools well, like you are doing, now, But in the end, it's the composition that counts. Keep doing what you're doing; this is solid work. Don't forget that."
I didn't forget. I work hard on my Compositions and Arrangements. Note by Fr-king note. But i also beat the Hell out of my Synths. Treat them rough and make those machines cry.
Live and let live; keep this Electronic world alive; young and old. Listen and learn from everyone you bloody well can.
This new release, "Music For SeX" is 90% analog. Including the dinosaur multi-track Reel to Reels; the tape heads are still smoking.
cheers, and drop by for a listen. Glad you are ALL here!
Regards,
RanDallk"Music For SeX"randallk

[quote][b][user]RanDallkMeyer[/user][/b] said: I was there in '75 , all analog, but in '75 i felt like the new kid on the block. So i just absorbed everything i could from the Masters then and silently went about my daily recording. When digital moved in, the general consensus at the time was: " Hey old man, analog is out. It's all digital so put your analog monsters in the closet". Then i met Phillip Glass, and he told me something that put 'everything in it's right place' . He said: " I really love your work! The machines we use are simply that - They are machines; they're our tools. Use your tools well, like you are doing, now, But in the end, it's the composition that counts. Keep doing what you're doing; this is solid work. Don't forget that." I didn't forget. I work hard on my Compositions and Arrangements. Note by Fr-king note. But i also beat the Hell out of my Synths. Treat them rough and make those machines cry. Live and let live; keep this Electronic world alive; young and old. Listen and learn from everyone you bloody well can. This new release, "Music For SeX" is 90% analog. Including the dinosaur multi-track Reel to Reels; the tape heads are still smoking. cheers, and drop by for a listen. Glad you are ALL here! Regards, RanDallk[album artist=RanDallk]"Music For SeX"[/album][tag]RanDallk [/tag][/quote]

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- silverlage said...
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- 30 Oct 2008, 16:48
Live and let live; keep this Electronic world alive; young and old. Listen and learn from everyone you bloody well can.

RanDallkMeyer -

This quote, I believe, sums up what this group should be about.

I appreciate it and I hope everyone else does.

[quote][b][user]silverlage[/user][/b] said: RanDallkMeyer - This quote, I believe, sums up what this group should be about. I appreciate it and I hope everyone else does.[/quote]

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- FUBAR22 said...
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- 27 Apr 2009, 20:06
"psyche and wolfsheim (both good synth pop bands circa 1980's) should be connected artists , Plus Alvin Lucier, Luc Ferrari, Bernard Parmegiani, and Iannis Xenakis (experiential, avante garde composers)."

[quote][b][user]FUBAR22[/user][/b] said: "psyche and wolfsheim (both good synth pop bands circa 1980's) should be connected artists , Plus Alvin Lucier, Luc Ferrari, Bernard Parmegiani, and Iannis Xenakis (experiential, avante garde composers)."[/quote]

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- subetha said...
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- 16 May 2009, 10:25
@FUBAR22
no, Wolfsheim are no "old" masters, they emerged in the late 80s. And even being a good synthpop band of the 80s doesn't make Psyche a reference for this group. They've been heavily influenced by other earlier bands, being in a second wave of bands...

[quote][b][user]subetha[/user][/b] said: @FUBAR22 no, Wolfsheim are no "old" masters, they emerged in the late 80s. And even being a good synthpop band of the 80s doesn't make Psyche a reference for this group. They've been heavily influenced by other earlier bands, being in a second wave of bands...[/quote]

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- FUBAR22 said...
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- 24 May 2009, 20:01
I don't really care what "wave" they are from, all I know is they've had an influence on me. Preferring whoever came first in electronic music is really pointless, in my opinion. Electronic music shouldn't be "dated", especially now when there are so many bands past & present.

[quote][b][user]FUBAR22[/user][/b] said: I don't really care what "wave" they are from, all I know is they've had an influence on me. Preferring whoever came first in electronic music is really pointless, in my opinion. Electronic music shouldn't be "dated", especially now when there are so many bands past & present. [/quote]

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- FUBAR22 said...
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- 24 May 2009, 20:32
P.S. I understand the point of this group is to find the roots of electronic music. Those two synth-pop bands definitely aren't on the top of my list, and I know they can't be considered old masters. This kind of music is such a broad, many faceted genre. Though the earliest "experimenters" with electronic music are important, I think musicians who pioneered the many different styles should be counted.

[quote][b][user]FUBAR22[/user][/b] said: P.S. I understand the point of this group is to find the roots of electronic music. Those two synth-pop bands definitely aren't on the top of my list, and I know they can't be considered old masters. This kind of music is such a broad, many faceted genre. Though the earliest "experimenters" with electronic music are important, I think musicians who pioneered the many different styles should be counted.[/quote]

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- blackless said...
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- 16 Feb 2011, 18:55
[quote][b][user]blackless[/user][/b] said: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N4BDNbKhkA[/youtube][/quote]

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