The Death of Dynamic Range - people against Loudness War

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Created on: 16 Feb 2007
Group for all those who are fed up with current "Loudness Race" audio mastering practices.

Group for all those who are fed up with current "Loudness Race" audio mastering practices.

  • you feel exhausted just after a short listening of a new (or remastered) album of your favourite artist
  • you hear annoying crackles and distortion in your favourite tracks, despite having very good quality audio equipment
  • you often find modern bands/artists with great composition, melody, instruments, lyrics, but somehow their music lacks punch, dynamics, life, clarity and becomes annoying


You become aware of a disease of modern music industry - massive overcompression squashing great music into constant wall of noise, JUST TO MAKE RECORDS LOUD, LOUDER, THE LOUDEST!!!
Welcome to the real world, Neo.

So if you just can't stand that your favourite music is being destroyed by our-tunes-must-be-the-hottest-and-loudest-on-all-the-planet morons having no real music understanding - join this group.

Some articles explaining "Loudness War" issue:

To the music industry:
If we want it loud, we'll know how to make it loud! We know how to use volume knob! Don't make shit out of great recordings!

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  • introvertical

    Animals as Leaders. I really want to enjoy them but the production sounds so sterile and lifeless that I find myself becoming irritated by their music.

    17 Jul 6:51pm Reply
  • cholero

    Let's hope that Neil Young's PonoMusic brings record lables to release music with higher sound quality than they do today (better mixing and recording, just 192kHz/24bit doesn't mean better sound).

    16 Mar 10:01am Reply
  • metawirt

    @rettrou: Why the TT Meter doesn't work on vinyl

    9 Nov 2013 Reply
  • rettrou

    Arctic Monkeys' vinyl master has a DR of 12, while the cd is DR 6.

    4 Oct 2013 Reply
  • Pirate-FLAC

    Last albums of ARCTIC MONKEYS, NINE INCH NAILS, PLACEBO: all much too loud :-(

    3 Oct 2013 Reply
  • Izhorian

    just listened some recent pop songs to try them out and indeed, annoyingly loud all over.. They sound louder at 25% of volume on my speakers than the music i normally listen to does at 50%

    2 Oct 2013 Reply
  • Sanity_Theorist

    Biggest examples: the past two Alice in Chains albums. Great music, shit production, which is surprising given how awesomely mixed Degradation Trip is.

    13 Jul 2013 Reply
  • JBThazard


    23 Jun 2013 Reply
  • vitos

    Brickwalling in classical would create a need for a new name for such 'classical' genre. Any creative stupid ideas? ;)

    17 Jun 2013 Reply
  • KeIemvor

    I'm just happy there is no brickwalling in classical music... it must be really bad for fans of extreme metal.

    16 May 2013 Reply
  • JBThazard

    I'm a day late, but...

    24 Mar 2013 Reply
  • PiNa1971

    Are you guys aware of Unmasters? What they're trying to do is re-heating the already cold pizza. Yeah the pizza gets warm but not that tasty at all. Still a good try though.

    31 Jan 2013 Reply
  • Youraei

    Woohoo! 600 members!

    30 Jan 2013 Reply
  • Youraei

    Come on... just one more member...

    26 Jan 2013 Reply
  • metawirt

    "All Rock’n’Roll goes in the red" (Tony Visconti in a German Interview about recording music with David Bowie in Berlin)

    25 Jan 2013 Reply
  • vacantwinterday

    So why compress the music instead of just normalizing it? To avoid clipping? It can be dynamic while still peaking at a high volume when necessary.

    24 Jan 2013 Reply
  • bertrand-escaff

    I overlouded once, it's not so bad after all. But excess kills the excess

    24 Jan 2013 Reply
  • WinterWanderer

    "Why should music producers waste their time making an album actually sound good when people are just going to download it illegally?" The problem is actually that they are wasting their time making the album sound bad when if they just backed off on some shit, it would sound better.

    22 Jan 2013 Reply
  • Simon-Claudius

    @PiNa1971: I know, right? I could not believe it when I heard it for the first time, not even knowing the DR value. That hit at 1:10? Welcome to the new age, indeed...

    13 Jan 2013 Reply
  • c4t2007

    JBThazard, you must also love the blaring volume of commercials, then. Try playing a mix of and tracks and notice the sound quality.

    8 Jan 2013 Reply
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