Stop twisting knobs, start playing live

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damjan

An idea - connect Monolake to this group

September 2011
Adyry

i lol hard @ SAC66 comment because most electronic music styles can be played live. ///// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_zIvFYQWig

June 2011
iAdieux

er her her, silly group is silly.

April 2011
SAC666

i lol at this group, because most electronic music styles can onley be done live with knob-twisting.

February 2011
nervous_brkdown

lol

October 2010
gejm

@Mmmr_ but you still can't do any complicated breakcore/idm-styled amen breaks live.

September 2010
quayquay17

Whack point Mr. If artists stay aartists, then they make no money, seeing as everything is just pirated these days, if they do shows, they sell cd's and promo stuff, as well as get money for the gig. Maybe we should have a group, "Don't just press play". You can argue that, with ableton, any artist can add a live side to ANY track, whether it be simply filtering stems, doing the loops, triggering, or even live drum pads/keyboards. When you play ableton you twist knobs. That's what I do, and i feel it is very much live, heck, i've even switched off my trigger quantizing, however, all the sounds that are in the set are on my album. It's strange that you respect DJ's doing nothing more then beatmatching, but dislike people beatmatching, twisting FX, and triggering samples... A better argument would be "hey, make an actual live set and tweak TONS of knobs, don't just play full tracks. go buy ableton and put your stems into it"

July 2010
SargeantD

How the FUCK can you reproduce Dubstep without twisting knobs?

July 2010
bewilderd

"but point is to encourage artists to be artists and DJ's to be DJ's." What would your opinion of some of the deejay groups be then? I used to do 4 deck performances with Buddy Peace but stopped as it threw up too many issues like arriving to find faulty mixers / equipment. We did carry our own mixers around for a while and one of the reasons i stopped was that it was leading to worsening a back condition i have. The very people you are complaining about her are ones that if technology hadn't progressed would be deejaying (i still consider Skream & Benga deejays... i don't know what you are complaining about with those two). Seems what you are railing against is progress itself. Why should i be penalised because i don't used a turntable and vinyl anymore? Hows to say we won't progress in to playing live?

June 2010
Adyry

"Twisting volume knob" was only example, actally I was positively supprised with your set@ nowa muzyka (one of the best btw) - anyway - it was still knob twisting/fading/cuting/looping/blending/ etc. You sumed it up v good "LIke a lot of electronic artists i'm just a guy who plays tunes, not 'concerts'. " - and here's the point of my group - maybe I named it bad - but point is to encourage artists to be artists and DJ's to be DJ's. Well maybe it's pointless and it will never change... But how we'd feel hearing only covers @ for ex. Fever Ray concert? And why Jean Michel Jarre, Tim Exile, Autechre, Pan Sonic, (...) can play their tracks live, but others can't? Even half-live & half-sampled (ex. Drumcorps) concerts are better experience than hearing just a DJset which I will forget in 2 weeks.

June 2010
bewilderd

personally speaking i've done an Ableton workshop breaking down what i do live and its more then twisting a volume knob. Its worth noting that most mixers have faders instead of knobs. This sort of discussion may have held water 10 years ago, but these days playing 'live' and deejaying is a blurred line thanks to software like Ableton. When i play the vast majority is other people tunes. I've never played a 'live' set consisting of my own material, but what i do is chop up other peoples tunes in to small loops or re-edits and trigger them live, having 4 or 5 tracks on the go at once. Is that deejay or is that Live? I don't know, but i don't consider myself a full 'live' act and i don't spend all my time on stage just 'twisting knobs'. LIke a lot of electronic artists i'm just a guy who plays tunes, not 'concerts'.

June 2010
Adyry

I'm just annoyed with going to someone's "concert" and hearing his DJ Set instead of his live set. I also make music and kno that its sometimes impossible to play something live but... playing DJ set instead of live set isn't fair at all, artist should at least try to modify tracks to interract with audience instead of standing in front of mixer and twisting volume knob.

June 2010
bewilderd

Adyry, King Cannibal here. i don't understand this... yeah i 'twist knobs'. I make electronic music, music created by twisting knobs, so please forgive me if i don't break out the electric guitar and start stage diving.

June 2010
Adyry

i'm really supprised, that people do not consider konob-twist-shows bad.

June 2010
closedmouth

the fuck is this shit

June 2010
Mmmr_

@shru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGT1tZT9C1o

June 2010
Shru

Dumb group, only the most simple electronic music could be replicated live. I think that digital arrangement is one of the best things that has ever happened to music and would be very sad if artists started opting to forgo complex editing for the sake of being able to manually reproduce their music in a live setting.

June 2010
catachresistant

Too much knob-twisting makes you go blind.

June 2010
lanathel

wat

June 2010
Adyry

Added some knob twisting-guys. Ideas for next connections?

June 2010