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My dear friend, what is this our life? A boat that swims in the sea, and all one knows for certain about it is that one day it will capsize. Here we are, two good old boats that have been faithful...

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  • Clitasaurus wrote:
    Thursday afternoon
    He was the closest thing that could ever be considered a "God".

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  • Emtay13 wrote:
    Sunday evening
    Unique to this Group is actually nice. Nietzsche was the best.

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  • vicskatepunk wrote:
    last month
    I agree with johntardsbaby66 and with dyingdreams. Nietzsche opposed the state, and it's true he dedicated a whole Zarathustra speech for criticize the state. I really got a anarchist view from Zarathustra. I think he called 'dogs' to the socialist-anarchist ones.

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  • dee_k7 wrote:
    last month
    La razón en el lenguaje... Oh! que hembra engañadora! Como sigamos creyendo en la gramática, nunca lograremos desembarazarnos de Dios.

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  • johntardsbaby66 wrote:
    last month
    I agree with dyingdreams, I got an anarchist view from Zarathustra. @HoloHoax: You're pretty fucking stupid. And anarchist as in a way of anti-state, anti-group kind of thing, Will to Power means autonomy. Those who have the most power are those that control themselves completely, if Nietzsche wanted people to have power over other people, he would be supporting a state in essence. There's a whole chapter in Thus Spoke Zarathustra about the state. I suggest you actually read some of his books.

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  • dyingdreams wrote:
    last month
    I'm not talking quotes and oneliners, read the books. He can "support anything" only when taken out of context.

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  • the_nose wrote:
    last month
    It´s a very difficult topic. You can get a quote of Nietzsche supporting maaaany different political views.

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  • dyingdreams wrote:
    last month
    You misunderstood him then. There's more than one type of anarchist; at its core the Ubermensch is an anarchist in the sense of setting his own standards, but that doesn't mean he strives after chaos. Quite the contrary. The anarchist Nietzsche meant as despicable was one that defines anarchy as equality and strives for it out of weakness; in other words anarchy with socialist connotations.

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  • Neantise wrote:
    last month
    Nietzsche loathed anarchists, the_nose. He compared them to Christians in The Antichrist and called them "dogs" in Beyond Good and Evil.

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  • the_nose wrote:
    last month
    I think Nietzsche was mostly against behavioural norms, questioning everything that exists in our minds. He was rather an anarchist than a nationalist. Saying that Stalin and Hitler were "true" (?) nietzscheans is bullcrap. Nietzsche opposed these kind of dictatorships. Just because Hitler was a great fan of Freddy N. and misused parts of his ideology doesn´t make him a nietzschenean.

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  • misanthropians wrote:
    September 2009
    Anti-Christ

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  • johntardsbaby66 wrote:
    September 2009
    Nietzsche opposed nationalism, the state, etc. he also opposed religion, and does refer to Jesus as a "Jew" and a "Hebrew" when he criticizes religion... I'm sure he hated Judaism just as much as he hated Christianity, the State, Socialism, etc.

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  • ondskaptkrieg wrote:
    August 2009
    A really wonderful drama film indeed, even though it kind of shatters the reality. Impressed by Armand Assante's acting and the prophet scene about Zarathustra.

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  • sarvam_dukha wrote:
    August 2009
    "Was ist also Wahrheit? Ein bewegliches Heer von Metaphern, Metonymien, Anthropomorphismen"

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  • assaults wrote:
    June 2009
    Is there a place for peace, weakness, or mercy in this world? Noooo! Next Chapter: Ayn Rand and why all losers should die.

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  • flisu wrote:
    June 2009
    @fkln I think Nietzsche was astonished how this small, strange nation (Jews) with sick religions is so strong. Another thing is in his sympathies. In this philosophy there is no place for peace, weakness, and mercy, thats why nazism and satanism (oposite to christianity) use his thinking.

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  • Iskariota666 wrote:
    June 2009
    One of the best philosophers ever...

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  • dyingdreams wrote:
    June 2009
    Not saying that Nietzsche was an anti-semite by a long shot, that's mostly said by people who have never read one letter he wrote, but I wouldn't exactly go about claiming his adoration for Jews either. I don't see any problems with that.

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  • fkln wrote:
    June 2009
    " frankly, every ideology can find things in Nietzsche." but this is kind of missing the point. there's a reason why nietzsche is so widely read today, and it has little to do w/the remarkability of his individual postulations (eternal recurrence, overman, will to power). you can't disembody these ideas--as fascinating as they are--from the essence of his philosophy, which is undeniably anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-socialist, and anti-humanist .... and unabashedly so. when you add all this together, it makes perfect sense why libertarians, social darwinists, and, yes, neo-nazis embrace him while educated christians, secular humanists, and left-wingers do not. yes, neo-nazis are purposefully ignoring some "nuances" of nietzsche's thought: his criticism of anti-semitism, his admiration for jews, his skepticism of nationalism, his valuation of the herdman's place in society, but the general framework for their beliefs, particularly the justification for inequality, is there.

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  • MainomaiBlues wrote:
    June 2009
    He is not only a philosopher, try the poems! I love them.

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