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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 10 Jul 2007, 09:40
The Metalcore Desk:

Welcome to the Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Desk:

Go ahead and leave your queries or recommendations.

Related Desks:

Screamo & Hardcore Punk
Thrash Metal
Death Metal

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Welcome to the Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Desk: [img]http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6051/botchwearetheromansqh5.jpg[/img] Go ahead and leave your queries or recommendations. Related Desks: [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Music+Advice+Center/forum/40095/_/191015][IMG]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2476/bdjm2.gif[/IMG][/url] Screamo & Hardcore Punk [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Music+Advice+Center/forum/40095/_/183796][IMG]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2476/bdjm2.gif[/IMG][/url] Thrash Metal [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Music+Advice+Center/forum/40095/_/241902][IMG]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2476/bdjm2.gif[/IMG][/url] Death Metal[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 10 Jul 2007, 11:03
How about starting...

"100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums"

Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)

List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 3

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: How about starting... [b]"100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums"[/b] [size=8][color=blue]Converge - Jane Doe (2001)[/color] [color=blue]The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)[/color] [color=blue]Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)[/color] List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 3[/size][/quote]

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- Edelweiss said...
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- 11 Jul 2007, 00:20
I don't know anything about metalcore, I would like to get into - any album to recommend to start with?

Ozark Henry

[quote][b][user]Edelweiss[/user][/b] said: I don't know anything about metalcore, I would like to get into - any album to recommend to start with?[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 11 Jul 2007, 08:17
Basically, metalcore is a genre which incorporates elements of hardcore punk and metal. Heavy stuff.

I will go with my favourite metalcore album:

Converge - Jane Doe

Some other albums:
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene (unfortunately, it has wrong track list here)
Yakuza - Samsara
Killswitch Engage - The End of Heartache (I don't like them tbh, but I know a lot of people do)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Basically, metalcore is a genre which incorporates elements of hardcore punk and metal. Heavy stuff. I will go with my favourite metalcore album: [img]http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/2462/20786rt5.jpg[/img] [artist]Converge[/artist] - [album artist=Converge]Jane Doe[/album] Some other albums: [artist]The Dillinger Escape Plan[/artist] - [album artist=The Dillinger Escape Plan]Irony Is a Dead Scene[/album] (unfortunately, it has wrong track list here) [artist]Yakuza[/artist] - [album artist=Yakuza]Samsara[/album] [artist]Killswitch Engage[/artist] - [album artist=Killswitch Engage]The End of Heartache[/album] (I don't like them tbh, but I know a lot of people do)[/quote]

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- matetoth said...
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- 23 Jul 2007, 09:44
Gig Poster of the Day (23 July):
The Dillinger Escape Plan

Chosen by radekpl.

[quote][b][user]matetoth[/user][/b] said: [b]Gig Poster of the Day (23 July):[/b] [artist]The Dillinger Escape Plan[/artist] [img]http://www.artbutcher.com/bossconstruct/images/DEP.jpg[/img] Chosen by [user]radekpl[/user].[/quote]

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- Catatonics said...
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- 23 Jul 2007, 10:28
*Leaves a track*

Catatonic's little track pick trail

Lamb of God - Hourglass

( #003 | #004 | #005 )

The Big Afraid at

[quote][b][user]Catatonics[/user][/b] said: *Leaves a track* [b]Catatonic's little track pick trail[/b] [artist]Lamb of God[/artist] - [track artist=Lamb of God]Hourglass[/track] [img]http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/resized/img/covers/183906-0-300-0-300.jpg[/img] ( [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Music+Advice+Center/forum/40095/_/239516/_/4339131]#003[/url] | [b]#004[/b] | [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Music+Advice+Center/forum/40095/_/183799/_/4353445]#005[/url] )[/quote]
Edited by Catatonics on 16 Aug 2007, 17:49

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- Arch-Nihil said...
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- 30 Jul 2007, 02:37
Be sure to check "The Number Twelve Looks Like You" if you want to hear some of the finest Mathcore around ! Jesus And Tori is an awesome track by them.

[quote][b][user]Arch-Nihil[/user][/b] said: Be sure to check "The Number Twelve Looks Like You" if you want to hear some of the finest Mathcore around ! Jesus And Tori is an awesome track by them.[/quote]

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- friendlysnare said...
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- 21 Aug 2007, 15:22
I second #12!

I don't know if I want to be classifying these bands as 'Metalcore' ??

silence is merely the absence of sound

[quote][b][user]friendlysnare[/user][/b] said: I second #12! I don't know if I want to be classifying these bands as 'Metalcore' ??[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 22 Sep 2007, 05:21
Today's Gig Poster (22nd September):

Chosen by radekpl.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: [img]http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4830/50813zp6.jpg[/img] Chosen by [user]radekpl[/user].[/quote]

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- namnatulco said...
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- 15 Dec 2007, 20:41
How about Ashes Of The Wake and maybe Fistful of Hate? Tho, the latter leans more to hardcore (or hardcore punk, if you will).

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[quote][b][user]namnatulco[/user][/b] said: How about [album artist=Lamb of God]Ashes of the Wake[/album] and maybe [album artist=Pro-Pain]Fistful of Hate[/album]? Tho, the latter leans more to hardcore (or hardcore punk, if you will).[/quote]

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- Jesse1989 said...
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- 15 Feb 2008, 21:02
"100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums"

Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)
The Agony scene- the darkest red
All shall perish- the price of existence
Arsonists get all the girls- hits from the bow
between the buried and me- alaska
the chariot- everything is alive everthing is breathing nothing is dead nothing is bleeding
Emmure-goodbye to the gallows
enter shikari- take to the skies
everytime i die- hot damn
He is legend- i am holywood
heaven shall burn- deaf to our prayers
protest the hero- fortress
suicide silence- the cleansing
unearth- the oncoming storm
winter solstice- the fall of rome

List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 16

[quote][b][user]Jesse1989[/user][/b] said: "100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums" Converge - Jane Doe (2001) The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999) Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002) The Agony scene- the darkest red All shall perish- the price of existence Arsonists get all the girls- hits from the bow between the buried and me- alaska the chariot- everything is alive everthing is breathing nothing is dead nothing is bleeding Emmure-goodbye to the gallows enter shikari- take to the skies everytime i die- hot damn He is legend- i am holywood heaven shall burn- deaf to our prayers protest the hero- fortress suicide silence- the cleansing unearth- the oncoming storm winter solstice- the fall of rome List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 16[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 15 Feb 2008, 21:57
The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red
All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence
Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow
Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses
Between the Buried and Me- Alaska
Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding
The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is
Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows
Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies
Everytime I Die - Hot Damn
Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire
He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood
Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers
Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)
Protest the Hero - Fortress
Suicide Silence - The Cleansing
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome

List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 18

I know many people who like metal despise Atreyu because of their mainstream approach. But I think this one (their first album) is very good. And the later work is hardly as good.

Anyway, I'm not that far into metalcore yet, so I would love to check out some of these other albums :)

Ps. I took the liberty to make the list look a bit nicer ;)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow [color=blue]Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses[/color] Between the Buried and Me- Alaska Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is Converge - Jane Doe (2001) The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999) Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies Everytime I Die - Hot Damn [color=blue]Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire[/color] He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002) Protest the Hero - Fortress Suicide Silence - The Cleansing Unearth - The Oncoming Storm Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 18 I know many people who like metal despise Atreyu because of their mainstream approach. But I think this one (their first album) is very good. And the later work is hardly as good. Anyway, I'm not that far into metalcore yet, so I would love to check out some of these other albums :) Ps. I took the liberty to make the list look a bit nicer ;)[/quote]

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- Jesse1989 said...
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- 22 Feb 2008, 17:10
doolittleschizo said:
Ps. I took the liberty to make the list look a bit nicer ;)

Fancy.

[quote][b][user]Jesse1989[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]doolittleschizo[/user][/b] said: Ps. I took the liberty to make the list look a bit nicer ;)[/quote] Fancy.[/quote]

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- Syppress said...
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- 3 Mar 2008, 01:52
The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red
All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence
Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow
Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses
Between the Buried and Me- Alaska
Between the Buried and Me - The Silent Circus
Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding
The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is
Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
Despised Icon - The Healing Process
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows
Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies
Everytime I Die - Hot Damn
Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire
He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood
Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers
Ion Dissonance - Solace
Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)
Protest the Hero - Fortress
Suicide Silence - The Cleansing
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome

I took the liberty of adding my favorite album for each genre. :]

Between the buried and me for metalcore, Ion Dissonance for mathcore, and Despised Icon for deathcore.

[quote][b][user]Syppress[/user][/b] said: The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses Between the Buried and Me- Alaska [color=blue]Between the Buried and Me - The Silent Circus[/color] Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is Converge - Jane Doe (2001) [color=blue]Despised Icon - The Healing Process[/color] The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999) Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies Everytime I Die - Hot Damn Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers [color=blue]Ion Dissonance - Solace[/color] Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002) Protest the Hero - Fortress Suicide Silence - The Cleansing Unearth - The Oncoming Storm Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome I took the liberty of adding my favorite album for each genre. :] Between the buried and me for metalcore, Ion Dissonance for mathcore, and Despised Icon for deathcore.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 3 Mar 2008, 10:57
Nice. Will check them out.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Nice. Will check them out.[/quote]

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- mostly-metal said...
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- 3 Mar 2008, 22:03
Pick of The Week:

Eden Maine - To You the First Star (2005)

stab me 'til i cum

[quote][b][user]mostly-metal[/user][/b] said: [url=http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/eden_maine/to_you_the_first_star/]Eden Maine - To You the First Star (2005)[/url] [img]http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4227/o271975zu8.jpg[/img][/quote]

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- mostly-metal said...
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- 3 Mar 2008, 22:10
The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red
All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence
Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow
Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses
Between the Buried and Me- Alaska
Between the Buried and Me - The Silent Circus
Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding
The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is
Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
Despised Icon - The Healing Process
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene (2002)
Eden Maine - To You the First Star (2005)
Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows
Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies
Everytime I Die - Hot Damn
Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire
He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood
Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers
HORSE the Band - The Mechanical Hand (2005)
Ion Dissonance - Solace
Johnny Truant - The Repercussions of a Badly Planned Suicide (2002)
Matter - Blackleg (2002)
Murder One - Murder One
Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002)
Protest the Hero - Fortress
Suicide Silence - The Cleansing
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome

List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 29

stab me 'til i cum

[quote][b][user]mostly-metal[/user][/b] said: [size=8]The Agony Scene- The Darkest Red All Shall Perish- The Price of Existence Arsonists Get All The Girls - Hits From the Bow Atreyu - Suicide Notes And Butterfly Kisses Between the Buried and Me- Alaska Between the Buried and Me - The Silent Circus Breathing Nothing is Dead Nothing is Bleeding The Chariot - Everything is Alive Everything is Converge - Jane Doe (2001) Despised Icon - The Healing Process The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999) [color=blue]The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene (2002) Eden Maine - To You the First Star (2005)[/color] Emmure - Goodbye to the Gallows Enter Shikari - Take to the Skies Everytime I Die - Hot Damn Hatebreed - Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire He Is Legend - I Am Holy Wood Heaven Shall Burn - Deaf to Our Prayers [color=blue]HORSE the Band - The Mechanical Hand (2005)[/color] Ion Dissonance - Solace [color=blue]Johnny Truant - The Repercussions of a Badly Planned Suicide (2002) Matter - Blackleg (2002) Murder One - Murder One [/color] Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child (2002) Protest the Hero - Fortress Suicide Silence - The Cleansing Unearth - The Oncoming Storm Winter Solstice - The Fall of Rome List: 100 Great Metalcore, Mathcore & Deathcore Albums, Count: 29[/size][/quote]

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- QbSon said...
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- 3 Mar 2008, 22:45
I can't believe nobody mentioned As I Lay Dying!! "Frail words collapse", "Shadows are security" and "An ocean between us" are all great albums! Right now im checking out Darkest Hour. That's some great stuff too.

[quote][b][user]QbSon[/user][/b] said: I can't believe nobody mentioned [artist]As I Lay Dying[/artist]!! "Frail words collapse", "Shadows are security" and "An ocean between us" are all great albums! Right now im checking out [artist]Darkest Hour[/artist]. That's some great stuff too.[/quote]

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- JamesBass said...
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- 4 Mar 2008, 01:20
Poison the Well - The Opposite of December
Burnt by the Sun - The Perfect is the Enemy of the Good
Misery Signals - Mirrors

The term Metalcore generally confuses me though. I'll go ahead and carry on any I reckon are worth listening to that are maybe related.

Botch - An Anthology of Dead Ends
Earthtone9 - Arc'Tan'Gent
Beecher - This Elegy, His Autopsy
Cave In - Until Your Heart Stops

[quote][b][user]JamesBass[/user][/b] said: Poison the Well - The Opposite of December Burnt by the Sun - The Perfect is the Enemy of the Good Misery Signals - Mirrors The term Metalcore generally confuses me though. I'll go ahead and carry on any I reckon are worth listening to that are maybe related. Botch - An Anthology of Dead Ends Earthtone9 - Arc'Tan'Gent Beecher - This Elegy, His Autopsy Cave In - Until Your Heart Stops [/quote]

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- JamesBass said...
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- 5 Mar 2008, 14:40
Also a lot of the bands/albums on that list are kinda sucky/I don't really think can be considered metalcore.

But whatever.

[quote][b][user]JamesBass[/user][/b] said: Also a lot of the bands/albums on that list are kinda sucky/I don't really think can be considered metalcore. But whatever.[/quote]

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- Syppress said...
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- 5 Mar 2008, 19:18
Metalcore, like most genres is somewhat diverse. A lot of bands can sound completely different from eachother. All the albums I've heard on that list are metalcore/deathcore/mathcore as well. And as to whether what albums "suck" is completely up to you. I'm sure you can find something new to listen to from that list you might enjoy.

[quote][b][user]Syppress[/user][/b] said: Metalcore, like most genres is somewhat diverse. A lot of bands can sound completely different from eachother. All the albums I've [i]heard[/i] on that list are metalcore/deathcore/mathcore as well. And as to whether what albums "suck" is completely up to you. I'm sure you can find something new to listen to from that list you might enjoy.[/quote]

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- JamesBass said...
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- 5 Mar 2008, 22:17
You're probably right. I'm still not entirely sure whether some of those bands are really metalcore bands though.

But then again, I'm not claiming to know much about the term, I've just always taken it as a fusion of metal and hardcore/hardcore punk, and by that logic I wouldn't call Atreyu, Hatebreed or Enter Shikari metalcore. Every Time I Die is also dubious for me.

[quote][b][user]JamesBass[/user][/b] said: You're probably right. I'm still not entirely sure whether some of those bands are really metalcore bands though. But then again, I'm not claiming to know much about the term, I've just always taken it as a fusion of metal and hardcore/hardcore punk, and by that logic I wouldn't call Atreyu, Hatebreed or Enter Shikari metalcore. Every Time I Die is also dubious for me.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 6 Mar 2008, 08:24
Well, it seems like the genre has expanded from it's original meaning, so it's kinda hard to say. And I don't really consider Hatebreed fully metalcore by the way, more that one album.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Well, it seems like the genre has expanded from it's original meaning, so it's kinda hard to say. And I don't really consider Hatebreed fully metalcore by the way, more that one album.[/quote]

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- JamesBass said...
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- 6 Mar 2008, 13:15
Oh ok, that's understandable, there are a few bands that originally had a metalcore sound and then moved away from it. Cave In is a pretty good example, and I think the only real metalcore album Every Time I Die made was Last Night In Town. I just wouldn't consider Hot Damn! (which is in the list) or their other albums metalcore.

And yes, I see what you're getting at that the meaning has been twisted, same thing goes for other popular tags like "indie" and "emo" I guess.

[quote][b][user]JamesBass[/user][/b] said: Oh ok, that's understandable, there are a few bands that originally had a metalcore sound and then moved away from it. Cave In is a pretty good example, and I think the only real metalcore album Every Time I Die made was Last Night In Town. I just wouldn't consider Hot Damn! (which is in the list) or their other albums metalcore. And yes, I see what you're getting at that the meaning has been twisted, same thing goes for other popular tags like "indie" and "emo" I guess.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
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- 6 Mar 2008, 15:09
Yeah, I think because you got stuff like mathcore and deathcore, the more open term metalcore can mean alot. Don't take my word for it though, as I haven't heard that much metalcore.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Yeah, I think because you got stuff like mathcore and deathcore, the more open term metalcore can mean alot. Don't take my word for it though, as I haven't heard that much metalcore.[/quote]

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