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I hadn't read it, but in any case I tracked down the issue in question yesterday, it's dated June 23. Thanks for the effort, though!

NME is 5€ in Germany, which is fair enough. Half the time extras et al are missing, though (CDs and the like), but they were even when I had a subscription for a year!
I'm guilty of reading Spex as well! :D It's so pretentious, the new staff even more than the old ... but they always dig up subjects nobody else would have thought of covering, their interviews can be completely useless but often enough are far more interesting than the promo-paper-rechewing of other publications - and the CDs are wonderful, about the only magazine samplers around on which I regularly discover things I hadn't known before.
I suppose it would technically be possible to find old Sounds magazines, though only at the usual locales, i.e. on ebay ... the Musikexpress back issues archives only go back to '96, and the two were put together (and ME-ised) in '83 already. Anyway, I don't know about Turkey, but on German ebay issues from the seventies and eighties are usually between four and ten euros at buy-now. If you're lucky you'll also come across some on flea markets from time to time, but the trouble with good music press is, those that followed it then are not the kind to throw it out for nothing (like people would with their old Bravos or something).

I agree on TIH! I quite like it, but it's nowhere near as spliffing as the bouncy cheese-pop days.

that's exactly the idea... as soon as we're done with the underrated ones...

Ah, I don't like the terms 'underrated' and 'overrated' ... they're the new 'in' words, every band with less than 50,000 scrobbles on here is underrated and every band above that is overrated :D


Linoleum, I remember at the time people saying "we don't need another Echobelly". Hell, why not?! I'll have as many Echobelly's as I can eat (thanks very much).

True that! (Similar things happen to Salad, who supposedly sound like Sleeper. I don't know, technically I suppose they might, but they lack the Louise Wener spirit ... but they're still fun!) Besides, there could be a dozen or more Genes and Jamess and Raymondes and Marions and ... oh, wait, there are dozens of that sort! How come there were so few complaints about that? Clearly britpop is more chauvinist than commercial hip hop.

let's give this one another push...

Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
Butthole Surfers - Electriclarryland (1996)
The Clash - Cut the Crap (1985)
The Cramps - Songs the Lord taught us
The Cure - Pornography (1982)
The Cure - The Top (1984)
The Cure - Mixed Up (1990)
Curve - Doppelganger (1992)
Depeche Mode - Violator (1990)
Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith and Devotion Live (1994)
The Dream Syndicate - Medicine Show (1984)
Erasure - Erasure (1995)
GUN - Taking on the World (1989)
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Honey's Dead (1992)
Linoleum - Dissent (1997)
Lush - Split (1994)
Mansun - Little Kix (2000)
Marc Almond - Enchanted (1990)
Mega City Four - Sebastopol Road (1992)
The Mission - Carved In Sand (1990)
Mylène Farmer - Anamorphosée (1995)
New Fast Automatic Daffodils - Pigeonhole (1990)
Opus III - Mind Fruit (1992)
Pop Will Eat Itself - Cure For Sanity (1990)
Ride - Tarantula (1996)
Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Rapture (1995)
Slowdive - Souvlaki (1993)
Stereolab - Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Mile Night (1999)
The Stone Roses - Second Coming (1994)
The Sugarcubes - Here Today, Tomorrow Next Week! (1989)
Swervedriver - Mezcal Head (1993)
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden (1988)
The The - Mind Bomb (1989)
U2 - Pop (1997)
Weezer - Pinkerton (1996)

List: Albums, Critically Bashed Upon Their Release, But Were Not Really Bad, Count: 35

The Clash / Cut the Crap: ok, it's not a very good album. actually, it's pretty lame compared to the previous work of the clash. but there are so many people pretending as if this album doesn't even exist and no, it's NOT that bad. at least it has "this is england" and i think it's not only one of the best songs by the clash, but one of the best ever.

The Cure / The Top: 3x the cure on a list like this may seem like a joke, but "the top" was yet another cure album to be critically bashed. it's still overshadowed by the more famous the cure albums, but it's also a fan favourite, just like "mixed up" and "pornography". i personally like it a lot. with songs like "shake dog shake", "birdmad girl", "piggy in the mirror", "bananafishbones", the title track and of course "the caterpillar", "the top" is a perfect experimental pop album. it was generally criticized for being too weird, but that's where the charm of "the top" lies.

Weezer - Pinkerton: i guess "pinkerton" is the most famous example of an album being critically bashed first, but hailed as a masterpiece later. the reviews were pretty harsh, the sales were bad and it was chosen as the second WORST album of 1996 by rolling stone readers. after the critical and commercial failure, even the band disowned the album. however, "pinkerton" was another fan favourite and word of mouth changed everything within 5-6 years. later, most of the magazines gave it a new review, crowned it with 5 stars mostly and included it in many "best of..." lists. the odd thing is; 10 years ago "pinkerton" was THE underrated album, now some think it's overrated. LOL

2007:

1. Klaxons – Myths Of The Near Future
2. Arctic Monkeys – Favourite Worst Nightmare
3. Radiohead – In Rainbows
4. Arcade Fire – Neon Bible
5. Les Savy Fav – Let’s Stay Friends
6. Kings Of Leon – Because Of The Times
7. MIA – Kala
8. Biffy Clyro – Puzzle
9. The Cribs – Men’s Needs, Woman’s Needs, Whatever
10. Battles – Mirrored
11. LCD Soundsystem – Sound Of Silver
12. The Shins – Wincing The Night Away
13. Pj Harvey – White Chalk
14. Babyshambles – Shotters Nation
15. The White Stripes – Icky Thump
16. The Coral – Roots & Echoes
17. Future Of The Left – Curses
18. The Good The Bad & The Queen – The Good The Bad & The Queen
19. Richard Hawley – Lady’s Bridge
20. Bloc Party – A Weekend In The City
21. The Enemy – We’ll Live And Die In These Towns
22. Black Lips – Good Bad Not Evil
23. Maps – We Can Create
24. The Maccabees – Colour It In
25. The Hold Steady – Boys And Girls In America
26. Kate Nash – Made Of Bricks
27. The Horrors – Strange House
28. Bright Eyes – Cassadaga
29. Lethal Bizzie – Back In Bizznizz
30. Queens Of The Stoneage – Era Vulgaris
31. The Pigeon Detectives – Wait For Me
32. Grinderman – Grinderman
33. Simian Mobile Disco – Attack Decay Sustain Release
34. New Young Pony Club – Fantastic Playroom
35. Super Furry Animals – Hey Venus
36. Holy Fuck – Holy Fuck
37. Jamie T – Panic Prevention
38. Justice - Escapades
39. Jeffery Lewis – 12 Crass Songs
40. El-P – I’ll Sleep When You’re Dead
41. Menomena – Friend And Foe
42. Patric Wolf – The Magic Position
43. Foo Fighters – Echoes, Silence, Patience And Grace
44. Gruff Rhys – Candy Lion
45. !!! – Myth Takes
46. Kaiser Chiefs – Yours Truly, Angry Mob
47. Enter Shikari – Take To The Skies
48. The View – Hats Off To The Buskers
49. Interpol – Our Love To Admire
50. Beirut – The Flying Club Cup

I think (possibly) the worst list ever.

No no, I'm sure.

The 2006 one is worse, really.
(Guess we can be glad MCR and Panic!... aren't British, else they'd have probably put them at #1 and #2.)

Cylob said:
2007:

1. Klaxons – Myths Of The Near Future
2. Arctic Monkeys – Favourite Worst Nightmare
3. Radiohead – In Rainbows
4. Arcade Fire – Neon Bible
5. Les Savy Fav – Let’s Stay Friends
6. Kings Of Leon – Because Of The Times
7. MIA – Kala
8. Biffy Clyro – Puzzle
9. The Cribs – Men’s Needs, Woman’s Needs, Whatever
10. Battles – Mirrored
11. LCD Soundsystem – Sound Of Silver
12. The Shins – Wincing The Night Away
13. Pj Harvey – White Chalk
14. Babyshambles – Shotters Nation
15. The White Stripes – Icky Thump
16. The Coral – Roots & Echoes
17. Future Of The Left – Curses
18. The Good The Bad & The Queen – The Good The Bad & The Queen
19. Richard Hawley – Lady’s Bridge
20. Bloc Party – A Weekend In The City
21. The Enemy – We’ll Live And Die In These Towns
22. Black Lips – Good Bad Not Evil
23. Maps – We Can Create
24. The Maccabees – Colour It In
25. The Hold Steady – Boys And Girls In America
26. Kate Nash – Made Of Bricks
27. The Horrors – Strange House
28. Bright Eyes – Cassadaga
29. Lethal Bizzie – Back In Bizznizz
30. Queens Of The Stoneage – Era Vulgaris
31. The Pigeon Detectives – Wait For Me
32. Grinderman – Grinderman
33. Simian Mobile Disco – Attack Decay Sustain Release
34. New Young Pony Club – Fantastic Playroom
35. Super Furry Animals – Hey Venus
36. Holy Fuck – Holy Fuck
37. Jamie T – Panic Prevention
38. Justice - Escapades
39. Jeffery Lewis – 12 Crass Songs
40. El-P – I’ll Sleep When You’re Dead
41. Menomena – Friend And Foe
42. Patric Wolf – The Magic Position
43. Foo Fighters – Echoes, Silence, Patience And Grace
44. Gruff Rhys – Candy Lion
45. !!! – Myth Takes
46. Kaiser Chiefs – Yours Truly, Angry Mob
47. Enter Shikari – Take To The Skies
48. The View – Hats Off To The Buskers
49. Interpol – Our Love To Admire
50. Beirut – The Flying Club Cup

I think (possibly) the worst list ever.

No no, I'm sure.
that list is shit. still nice to see Jamie T on it. i think i like 3 from that list, and havent heard 10 or so, and hate about ten. bloody NME!

what did Mojo say again? i have that copy i think. i like Mojo now, it reports on shit that happened 30 years ago, haha, thats my kind of news.