• Cylob said...
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    • 20 Sep 2006, 21:33

    The Jazz Desk:

    Welcome to the Jazz Desk:



    Go ahead and leave your queries or recommendations.

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    Edited by Cylob on 11 Jun 2008, 13:47
    • [Deleted user] said...
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    • 22 Sep 2006, 10:07
    For the most part, the "similar artists" on last.fm make me cringe, so... I should just ask ya'll.
    Anyone here into Bohren & Der Club of Gore's "Black Earth" and can suggest a similar artist/album?

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    • 22 Sep 2006, 16:50
    thats really hard but maybe try
    Jorma Tapio & Terje Isungset...not so much the same ....but you might like this if you dig that

    • [Deleted user] said...
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    • 22 Sep 2006, 22:10
    Awesome, will do; Thanks.

    • Gronkle said...
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    • 27 Sep 2006, 12:24
    Wait a minute...

    Jazz, Latin and 'world' music lumped together?

    Does Jazz not warrant a section to itself or have people turned their backs completely on the founding genre of all interesting music today?

    Appalled I am.

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    • 30 Sep 2006, 15:14
    Field recordings of Atege chants, please.

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    • 3 Oct 2006, 22:36
    Don't suppose anyone cares, but I found a Radio France collection called Chants Atege in a second hand shop - it's damn good....basically through the slave trade from Gabon it's considered to be one of the roots of blues music, can't really hear it myself but rhythmically some of it did kind of remind me of some of the Appalachian fife and drum music I've heard. In the unlikely event that anyone is interested let me know and I'll upload it somewhere.


    General recommendations

    Ethiopiques vol 1 - Golden years of Ethiopian music

    Simply the most amazing album I've heard in quite a while, some of the most delicious funk and jazz tunes played in a completely unique style, almost every tune is an absolute gem. Some samples here, don;t know how long. Track 11 is a good one to start with.
    http://worldmusic.nationalgeographic.com/worldmusic/view/page.basic/album/content.album/ethiopiques_vol.1__golden_years_of_modern_ethiopian_music_._47414

    Salif Keita & Kante Manfila - The lost album

    I expect quite a lot of you know Salif Keita, and maybe Kante Manfila. Recorded sometime in the 1980's, but never released until last year (hence the title). The last track 'Wara' is up there in my favourite songs of all time.

    Papa Noel & Papi Oviedo - Bana Congo

    Cuban tres player and Congolese guitar player with an album that explores the links between the two styles. I have to admit that there's a couple of tracks on the album that I just find unlistenable, maybe they'll grow on me, but there a a few that are amazing.

    Again a clip here, haven't listened so I don't know how much you get.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/awards2003/profile_noel.shtml

  • My last discovery: Chucho Valdes

    He's a jazz pianist and he combines jazz with latin percussion/rhythms and sometimes classical music. Sometime he sounds catchy and jumpy like Thelonious Monk (but in a more latin way), sometimes he sounds more abstract and dissonant.


    I'd recommend the album called "Bele Bele en La Habana"

    Chucho with band:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcnSXptucQc

    A more abstract "show-off" :) :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCME9tp9Es

    • Cylob said...
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    • 22 Oct 2006, 12:47

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  • Anyone recommend some more spaced-out jazz, like Sun Ra, for someone/thing that doesn't like conventional or swing type jazz?

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    • Cylob said...
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    • 23 Oct 2006, 09:12
    Try:

    Why The Sea Is Salt (2000)

    This could be described as neo-psychedelia with brass. I'm not sure why they picked a nautical theme, but hey, whatever, it works!

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  • RobDoubleu said:
    Anyone recommend some more spaced-out jazz, like Sun Ra, for someone/thing that doesn't like conventional or swing type jazz?

    I think it couldn't possibly get more spaced-out than Bitches Brew

    At allmusic.com they say Thelonious Monk is similar to Sun Ra. I like TM very much but he may be too conventional for your taste (but wasn't conventional at all in the 40ies).
    try
    Brilliant Corners
    Straight, No Chaser

    Or maybe some

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    • 26 Oct 2006, 20:56
    I suggest listening to On The Corner before Bitches Brew. Same idea, but On The Corner is easier to get into.

  • i hate to see the jazz thread so empty. you guys should check out Chicago Underground Quartet, Bobby Hutcherson, Roy Hargrove, and Weather Report to name a few.

  • Anyone can recommend me some Cool Jazz, like the Chet Baker Sings kind of stuff?

    Edited by camilero on 27 Oct 2006, 17:47
  • I don't know alot about Jazz but for those who like instrumental Jazz, Jan Johansson is defenitly someone to check out. Check out the record Jazz på svenska, (Jazz in Swedish).

    • Cylob said...
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    • 29 Oct 2006, 14:49
    @ camilero - whenever someone mentions Chet Baker I think Dave Brubeck, but it'd be pointless shouting an album (the man's done more than I can count).

    My pick of the week:

    Various - Fakes (2005)


    A collection of classics, skillfully remixed by DJ's dZihan & Kamien. The real gem is Disc 2 though, a sprawling jazz medly by The Brut Imperial Quintet.

    Good to see they still make it just like old times.

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  • My pick of the week:



    Root Down - Jimmy Smith Live!, one of the best live albums ever. Seriously worth checking out.

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    • 2 Nov 2006, 03:47
    Anthony Braxton is currently blowing my mind.

  • Weekly pick

    Is this still jazz or is it pop? Is anything still jazz if it has vocals? Anyway -

    A Little Loving


    With a new band and just her own name on cover after the previous Lisa Bassenge Trio releases (that are well recommendable, too), Lisa Bassenge's latest album isn't too spectacular an affair if you look at the basics: female singer, jazz/pop album, mostly covers - but a very pleasant listening experience and a voice that's prettily un-standard on the whole, not as scarily mature-sounding as a lot of female jazz singers but not too much on the Katie Melua side, either - it's a young, almost girlish sound, yes, but also with a distinctly cool air of femme fatale. The earlier albums were more minimalistic, but we're still far from big bands or string orchestras here, and every song is carefully deconstructed (The Cure's "In Between Days" is a prime example among the cover songs here) and not always ends up back in shape.

    Choice cuts:
    I'd never have to go
    Overload (Sugababes cover)
    Ohne Dich (Hildegard Knef cover)

  • i know next to nothing about jazz, except that i like it, or some kind of style of it, i think.
    i heard a polar bear song on a radio show a few years back, and after decideing it was the best thing on it i set out to get their album. a week or so later i heard it had gotten itself a mercury music prize nomination.

    is there anything like this i should try and get? or is it all like this? is this A style, or just THEIR style? [the less obscure the better]
    thanks!

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    • Cylob said...
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    • 10 Nov 2006, 14:32
    I've never heard of Polar Bear.

    If you're just finding your jazz feet, I'd be inclined to go for "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis.

    After all, it was the real age of jazz, and these guys were either at the perfection level or beyond.

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  • thanks cylob, iv tried quite a bit of davis, it seemed like the thing to do, but hes not my kind of thing, i think. i like the jack johnson record tho, i dont love it or anything, to the best of my memory, i think i thot it was a bit progy.
    i tried charles migus too, and he seems to be the guy for me.
    that herbie handcock, headhunters nonsense wasnt for me either, AND i dont think i LOVED sun ra, that was soooo disapointing, i realy wanted to be a ra fan. but who needs sun ra when morbid angle are still so good.

    AND, u should check out polar bear, not a lot to dislike there. im sure the did not win, i dont think it was the dizzee rascale year but maybe the next one. who won this year?- it was that thome yorke piss wasnt it?! i saw him doing a song on the night, and it was beautiful, but screw him, the album isnt that good [for him], its missing something, a few things probably, but i obviosly dont know what, although the letters JG come to mind.

    i forgot to mention; i like the big brassy sound, mainly, like, i suppose, mingus.

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  • If you're starting out with jazz, maybe begin with "Night Dreamer" by Wayne Shorter. I started out with "Kind of Blue" by Davis and "Something Else" by Cannonball Adderley, but I think a record like Wayne Shorter's would be even better because it has all of the accessibility with none of the expectations. That said, it's exceptionally good, but not many people know it is.

  • thanks for the rec. i got it and gave it a listen, and to me, it sounds exactly like what i think miles davis sounds like, except with more trumpet [or whatever it is], miles seems to bearly play sometimes.
    something i did like was, there was about 3 seconds of drumming that happened twice on one of the songs. boom, boom, boomy; i liked that, is there any jazz that has a lot of booming drums, i doubt u know the bit i mean, but it was the stand out few seconds of the album.

    keep the recomendations coming, especialy stuff ill get easily on the internet. i suppose im looking for something jazzier, well probably rockier; i know little about jazz [except what i like.... when i hear it], but if i had to call that wayne shorter stuff something, i would invent the name smooth-jazz, or soft-jazz [pussy-jazz], is there anything u would call hard-jazz [oh my god, i just remembered night dreamer is hard-bob], heavy-jazz, rough-jazz, extreme-jazz or death-jazz, orsomething, you know what i mean? [no? ok]

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