Is martial industrial really a fascist genre?

I don't know much about that genre but I really like the sound. However, the whole fascist/nazi/nationalist stuff is something i worry about. Is it truth that they believe in such crap or is it just misunderstanding of some fans? Well, i would go deeper into it but if it's neofascist therefore, I won't.
I would really appreciate the answers.

The answer is simply that it's varied. Fascist imagery and themes come up pretty often, but for different reasons. Sometimes to shock, sometimes to stir thought, sometimes out of sympathy. Some bands are decidedly anti-fascist, like Triarii. At least, I've heard they're anti-fascist.

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Heilig_Zorn said:
Triarii is anti-fascist? Gimme the source of such info.

That's just what I've heard from several other people. Certainly they use even less fascist/crypto-fascist imagery than Death in June, and they're more concerned with the emotions surrounding war than actual politics. This interview might help us, assuming you can read German (or find a decent translation!):

http://www.blackmagazin.com/?p=75

I can't read German either, I was hoping someone else would help. Google Translate seems to suggest that Christian might believe in an ideology which transcends fascism.

But to address another part of what you said, there are plenty of acts that make references to the Nazis without actually supporting them, hence why I brought DiJ into the picture. There's quite a difference between using the Nazis for art or to shock and secretly wanting a second Kristallnacht.

As a native speaker:

The Interview contains in the majority questions about concerts, the "new" CD and about future plans.
Only the fourth question deals with the political prejudices and the "open mind" statement in the booklet.

Christian reveals (by using many, many sentences) that he wont take part in the game of political choice between "right" or "left", nor he will use his music to promote certain ideas or views. (He describes those discussions as "vicious circles": Those who want to find enemy signs will find them, no matter if its true or not. This situation will perpetuate if the opposite group or person do the same... and so on. [If someone might translate it more properly, youre welcome.])

However, Erdmann describes himself as a supporter of humanism. To what extend this might be political is not explained.
In the end he states that "art is not allowed to educate". If it does, it will always be a victim of political ideas or theories.


Last but not least: Triarii will never perform a concert which is organized by dubious organizations or persons. (No matter of which political direction.)

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I saw Triarii live. It was a fantastic concert. I dont care about stupid discussions how something might be meant, i am only interested what this kind of art creates in my mind.



(( The booklet text which is mentioned above, taken from the "Muse in Arms":

Muse In Arms Is Dedicated To All Narrow Minded People
To All Those, Who Are Afraid Of Asking Questions
And Those, Who Are Even More Afraid Of Receiving Answers
Art Is Never Only Left Or Right
Nor Is It Only Black Or White
Life Is Not That Simple))

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Given the death and misery caused by fascism, though, I tend to be a leery of bands that show too much sympathy. It's no better than support a big fan of Stalin.

If it wasn't, I wouldn't listen to it :3

Dreadful_Hours said:
Slovanka escribió:
If it wasn't, I wouldn't listen to it :3
Thank you, this resolved all my doubts.

You don't bother looking at the emoticons, do you? :)

Of course it is.

fascism forbids art. therefore, there's no such thing as "fascist music"