NICKELBACK - GRUNGE OR NOT?

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- ARTMEDIA said...
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- 23 Mar 2006, 20:52
NICKELBACK - GRUNGE OR NOT?

I am so intersted in what do people think about Nickelback,a band that I like. Is it true grunge and what's their quality?

[quote][b][user]ARTMEDIA[/user][/b] said: I am so intersted in what do people think about Nickelback,a band that I like. Is it true grunge and what's their quality?[/quote]

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- die_by_TheSword said...
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- 23 Mar 2006, 22:55
Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years.

[quote][b][user]die_by_TheSword[/user][/b] said: Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years. [/quote]

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- wedieyoung said...
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- 23 Mar 2006, 23:20
Re:

Quoth die_by_TheSword:
Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years.

[quote][b][user]wedieyoung[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]die_by_TheSword[/user][/b]: Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years. [/quote] [/quote]

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- Windshield said...
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- 24 Mar 2006, 01:43
They're not grunge. They're awful.

[quote][b][user]Windshield[/user][/b] said: They're not grunge. They're awful.[/quote]

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- MrModernRock said...
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- 24 Mar 2006, 03:20
Is it true grunge

No, at least not according to what my concept of "grunge" is. Grunge isn't a sound, but if you're referring to grunge as a sound, you're only talking about Green River as they were the first to be described with the term grunge. Now, with what I believe grunge really is, is any band that originated from Seattle, WA and the surrounding area. So, not only does this include the automatic "grunge" bands, but also bands such as Heart, Jimi Hendrix, Sleater-Kinney and Modest Mouse. Nickelback, however, does not fit either of those defintions.

what's their quality?

I could just go the simple route and say "shit" but thats no fun. Nickelback, along with Shinedown, Puddle of Mudd, Creed, Godsmack, and to a lesser extinct Staind are all Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam rip-offs. I understand bands have influences and their favorite bands, but simply ripping off a band that was famous 10 years ago just doesn't cut it. At least add something to the music, have some kind of creativity and originality in there. Aside from being complete rip-offs, Nickelback can't even be creative within their own library. They use the same structure for every song with little or no variation, so of course all their songs sound very similar. The lyrics are suspect at best and come off as nothing other than updated 80s cock rock shit. My opinion? Two thumbs down and they're lucky I don't have more thumbs.

Winner's write the history books while Losers bury the dead.

[quote][b][user]MrModernRock[/user][/b] said: [quote]Is it true grunge[/quote] No, at least not according to what my concept of "grunge" is. Grunge isn't a sound, but if you're referring to grunge as a sound, you're only talking about [artist]Green River[/artist] as they were the first to be described with the term grunge. Now, with what I believe grunge really is, is any band that originated from Seattle, WA and the surrounding area. So, not only does this include the automatic "grunge" bands, but also bands such as [artist]Heart[/artist], [artist]Jimi Hendrix[/artist], [artist]Sleater-Kinney[/artist] and [artist]Modest Mouse[/artist]. Nickelback, however, does not fit either of those defintions. [quote]what's their quality?[/quote] I could just go the simple route and say "shit" but thats no fun. Nickelback, along with Shinedown, Puddle of Mudd, Creed, Godsmack, and to a lesser extinct Staind are all Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam rip-offs. I understand bands have influences and their favorite bands, but simply ripping off a band that was famous 10 years ago just doesn't cut it. At least add something to the music, have some kind of creativity and originality in there. Aside from being complete rip-offs, Nickelback can't even be creative within their own library. They use the same structure for every song with little or no variation, so of course all their songs sound very similar. The lyrics are suspect at best and come off as nothing other than updated 80s cock rock shit. My opinion? Two thumbs down and they're lucky I don't have more thumbs.[/quote]

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- Thurston_Whore said...
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- 24 Mar 2006, 13:06
I think they are shit and they have ''NOTHING'' to do with grunge.

''If Im The Guy Your Looking For,Just Look Down Under Some Rock''

[quote][b][user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b] said: I think they are shit and they have ''NOTHING'' to do with grunge.[/quote]

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- Neula said...
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- 24 Mar 2006, 16:08
Not impressed by that band. Should've even TRIED to invent something new, something own.

There are dozens of similar bands. That's simply too much.

Gonna break my rusty cage...and run.

[quote][b][user]Neula[/user][/b] said: Not impressed by that band. Should've even TRIED to invent something new, something own. There are dozens of similar bands. That's simply too much.[/quote]

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- Neula said...
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- 24 Mar 2006, 16:08
Not impressed by that band. Should've even TRIED to invent something new, something own.

There are dozens of similar bands. That's simply too much.

Gonna break my rusty cage...and run.

[quote][b][user]Neula[/user][/b] said: Not impressed by that band. Should've even TRIED to invent something new, something own. There are dozens of similar bands. That's simply too much.[/quote]

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- Mellaroch said...
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- 25 Mar 2006, 17:21
Absolutely not, I agree with Thurston Whore.

Sorry, but people that truly likes the grunge doesn't like nickelback.

Grunge its not only a sound its a form of life!!

Findecáno Mellaroch Yávëtil Alcarin

[quote][b][user]Mellaroch[/user][/b] said: Absolutely not, I agree with Thurston Whore. Sorry, but people that truly likes the grunge doesn't like nickelback. Grunge its not only a sound its a form of life!![/quote]

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- Scotty777 said...
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- 11 Apr 2006, 14:39
Nickelback isnt grunge... they're crap

I'm interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos, especially activity that appears to have no meaning. It seems to me to be the road toward freedom.
-- Jim Morrison

[quote][b][user]Scotty777[/user][/b] said: Nickelback isnt grunge... they're crap[/quote]

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- EyesAdrift said...
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- 13 Apr 2006, 18:18
Grunge is anti-corporate ... Nickelback definately isn't

As for as sound goes, theyre kinda "pop" grunge in my opinion
Of course, pop can never really go with grunge

Also, grunge implies talent, and Nickelback has none, so ...

NO, Nickelback is not at all grunge

Good analogy: Nickelback is to grunge as Emo is to Rock

“Rather be dead than cool"
-Kurt Cobain

[quote][b][user]EyesAdrift[/user][/b] said: Grunge is anti-corporate ... Nickelback definately isn't As for as sound goes, theyre kinda "pop" grunge in my opinion Of course, pop can never really go with grunge Also, grunge implies talent, and Nickelback has none, so ... NO, Nickelback is not at all grunge Good analogy: Nickelback is to grunge as Emo is to Rock[/quote]

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- Vinyafod said...
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- 7 May 2006, 18:25
Do I even have to say this? NO! Face it: they're just crap.

Prepare to suck cock in hell. It's really not all that bad once you get past the smell.

[quote][b][user]Vinyafod[/user][/b] said: Do I even have to say this? NO! Face it: they're just crap. [/quote]

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- Thurston_Whore said...
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- 7 May 2006, 21:49
Nickleback hahaha! please.

''If Im The Guy Your Looking For,Just Look Down Under Some Rock''

[quote][b][user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b] said: Nickleback hahaha! please.[/quote]

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- BloodyMaryS said...
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- 8 May 2006, 15:50
and Sherly Crow is not a riot grrl?? uh?!

^{Disco Sucks}_{Paul is dead}

[quote][b][user]BloodyMaryS[/user][/b] said: and Sherly Crow is not a riot grrl?? uh?! [/quote]

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- dimsoul said...
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- 3 Jun 2006, 00:39
crap

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie..

[quote][b][user]dimsoul[/user][/b] said: crap[/quote]

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- Last_On_Bleach said...
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- 3 Jun 2006, 23:15
Fuck Nickeback, everything they sings hurts my soul

[quote][b][user]Last_On_Bleach[/user][/b] said: Fuck Nickeback, everything they sings hurts my soul[/quote]

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- FreakDN said...
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- 4 Jun 2006, 03:50
Nickelback is somewhat post-grunge. They somehow fit into that genre.
But yea, they blow.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson

[quote][b][user]FreakDN[/user][/b] said: Nickelback is somewhat post-grunge. They somehow fit into that genre. But yea, they blow.[/quote]

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- MrModernRock said...
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- 4 Jun 2006, 04:41
Re:

Quoth FreakDN:
Nickelback is somewhat post-grunge. They somehow fit into that genre.
But yea, they blow.

And post-grunge is pretty much ripping off the Big Four from Seattle.

Winner's write the history books while Losers bury the dead.

[quote][b][user]MrModernRock[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]FreakDN[/user][/b]: Nickelback is somewhat post-grunge. They somehow fit into that genre. But yea, they blow.[/quote] And post-grunge is pretty much ripping off the Big Four from Seattle.[/quote]

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- Thurston_Whore said...
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- 5 Jun 2006, 16:33
And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)

''If Im The Guy Your Looking For,Just Look Down Under Some Rock''

[quote][b][user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b] said: And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)[/quote]

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- MrModernRock said...
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- 6 Jun 2006, 03:09
Re:

Quoth Thurston_Whore:
And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)

Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though.

Winner's write the history books while Losers bury the dead.

[quote][b][user]MrModernRock[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b]: And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)[/quote] Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though. [/quote]

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- Anderweltsliebe said...
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- 19 Jun 2006, 13:26
Re: Re:

Quoth wedieyoung:
Quoth die_by_TheSword:
Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years.

[quote][b][user]Anderweltsliebe[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]wedieyoung[/user][/b]: [quote][b]Quoth [user]die_by_TheSword[/user][/b]: Just no. The music is corporate, shitty, post-grunge bullshit that's basically the same song remarketed every two years. [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

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- Thurston_Whore said...
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- 19 Jun 2006, 16:27
Re: Re:

Quoth MrModernRock:
Quoth Thurston_Whore:
And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)

Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though.

Not really some of pj had roots,Soundgraden were pretty much there at the start alice in chains were pretty much glam pussy boys who didnt have any input on the early days and nirvana we just busy taking drugs and whatnot.Just dont forget they may have sold more albums and got videos on mtv but there were other bands doing just as good if not better than them. :)

''If Im The Guy Your Looking For,Just Look Down Under Some Rock''

[quote][b][user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]MrModernRock[/user][/b]: [quote][b]Quoth [user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b]: And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)[/quote] Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though. [/quote] Not really some of pj had roots,Soundgraden were pretty much there at the start alice in chains were pretty much glam pussy boys who didnt have any input on the early days and nirvana we just busy taking drugs and whatnot.Just dont forget they may have sold more albums and got videos on mtv but there were other bands doing just as good if not better than them. :)[/quote]

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- BloodyMaryS said...
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- 19 Jun 2006, 18:39
Re: Re: Re:

Quoth Thurston_Whore:
Quoth MrModernRock:
Quoth Thurston_Whore:
And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)

Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though.

Not really some of pj had roots,Soundgraden were pretty much there at the start alice in chains were pretty much glam pussy boys who didnt have any input on the early days and nirvana we just busy taking drugs and whatnot.Just dont forget they may have sold more albums and got videos on mtv but there were other bands doing just as good if not better than them. :)

how very nice of you to say all this. :/
i'm not exactly mainstream whore myself, but for some very good reason some band get the chance to be world-wide recognized while other remain mostly unknown. believe it or not, the quality of the band is still the part of sucess equation.

^{Disco Sucks}_{Paul is dead}

[quote][b][user]BloodyMaryS[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth [user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b]: [quote][b]Quoth [user]MrModernRock[/user][/b]: [quote][b]Quoth [user]Thurston_Whore[/user][/b]: And the big 4 from seattle are ripping off the 50 other small bands from seattle. :D Its a vicious cirlce man. :)[/quote] Well, half of the big 4 had/have roots in the first wave. I'm not up to date on the histories of Nirvana and Alice in Chains though. [/quote] Not really some of pj had roots,Soundgraden were pretty much there at the start alice in chains were pretty much glam pussy boys who didnt have any input on the early days and nirvana we just busy taking drugs and whatnot.Just dont forget they may have sold more albums and got videos on mtv but there were other bands doing just as good if not better than them. :)[/quote] how very nice of you to say all this. :/ i'm not exactly mainstream whore myself, but for some very good reason some band get the chance to be world-wide recognized while other remain mostly unknown. believe it or not, the quality of the band is still the part of sucess equation.[/quote]
Edited by BloodyMaryS on 20 Jun 2006, 08:22

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- l33t_Sas said...
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- 20 Jun 2006, 08:18
Hey, be nice to AiC!

Everyone deserves a chance to grow up.

[quote][b][user]l33t_Sas[/user][/b] said: Hey, be nice to AiC! Everyone deserves a chance to grow up.[/quote]

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- Anderu said...
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- 20 Aug 2006, 12:59
Nickelback has some grunge influences in the image and some similarity in general vocal style to post-grunge, but musically they're just hard-rock/riff-rock. And bad at it too.

I would say that Nickelback is the second phase of Creed's influence.

...and that's when I declared holy war!

[quote][b][user]Anderu[/user][/b] said: Nickelback has some grunge influences in the image and some similarity in general vocal style to post-grunge, but musically they're just hard-rock/riff-rock. And bad at it too. I would say that Nickelback is the second phase of Creed's influence.[/quote]

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