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Scrobbling Marxists unite!

a group for those who like their politics a bit red to find common or uncommon musical interests.

as far as what constitutes a communist value system here,...

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  • x-fucking

    may I say something offensive to commies?

    13 days ago
  • Wahhabi

    Sjanyk_San брешешь ты паскуда прозападная, ой как брешешь.

    21 days ago
  • Sjanyk_San

    In Ukraine communists - a russian chauvinists, lobbyists oil oligarchs.

    21 days ago
  • Sjanyk_San

    комуністи в Україні - прикриття для російських шовіністів. Вони боряться за право іноземних адміралів будувати вілли в Криму і за право іноземних олігархів контролювати медіа простір і ринок, перш за все нафто-газовий. До робітників їм просто немає діла. )

    21 days ago
  • iconan

    W May 1 Labor Day and workers. om ..... ॐ

    22 days ago
  • Wahhabi

    коммунисты и просто сочувствующие СССР ..все сюда! ---> http://www.lastfm.ru/group/USSR

    last month
  • iconan

    At last! I found this group. I am proud communist. om ..... ॐ

    last month
  • qzp

    sexy time with the Commies

    last month
  • Wahhabi

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YlbiyiuMc&feature=related

    last month
  • Skowfour

    Enigmatic_mist, этнические коммунисты и им сочувствующие походу... беда.

    March 2012
  • Enigmatic_mist

    а что за группа такая?

    February 2012
  • paddypunx

    Delete please the exploited out of this group, they're not commies, but your leader singer is a friend of members of skrewdriver. Watch the pictures of the exploited...!!! CHEERS & BEERS...!!!

    February 2012
  • Slovanka

    That was not just Albania, though in other countries anti-long-hair laws were enforced for different reasons. It was pretty much in all Eastern Bloc countries (in this case is Yugoslavia exluded) and it was meant to counter the cultural influence of Western Europe and the USA. Long hair symbolized the West (especially since 1960's). /// In that case, it might be political. But if you separate market and politics, then the fact I choose iPhone over other mobile phones is not political and has no political consequences, but merely market consequences. But since the state politicize market, it might be, indeed, considered political. But personally, I am against such an idea.

    February 2012
  • paddypunx

    The leader sing of exploited is a friend of england national front and friend of member of skrewdriver. See the picture of exploited on last. Stay red 4EVER!!!

    February 2012
  • eddiehiggins

    That was Albania, and it was to curtail the influence of Islam. Anyways, the statement that "all things are political", doesn't mean that there is always a conscious political intent behind our actions. Rather, it means that there are political forces that push into choosing one action or another, and there are political consequences that come about from our actions. I can think of a lot of examples where the correlation between the two is so vague that it makes envisioning this connection superfluous - such as, choosing which toothpaste to use, which beverage to purchase, etc. Even in those cases there are political consequences; purchasing an iphone instead of some other phone will affect the market for phones, etc. This is sort of a nonsensical debate though, since the way I'm using the proposition "all things are political", ends up making it a tautology.

    February 2012
  • Slovanka

    But if you give up on forcing your ideas on others, then you give up on political power. The difference now is that there are multiple parties forcing their ideas on us. Anyways, not everything is political. Or is my possesion (be it a computer, an iPhone or a car) a political issue? Hardly. Is the fact, that I dye my hair a political issue? It's not politically motivated, therefore it's not political. And even if I dyed my hair for political reasons, most people would not see it that way, it'd not be political for them. Funnily enough, communists in some countries made even hairdressing a political issue (it was forbidden for men and boys to have long hair), this is not an issue now, it's not political anymore. Well, too bad, if you see politics everywhere. On the other hand you've clearly given very political examples as a prove, that everything is political. Or are you going to tell me now, that even hair dying is every single time a political issue?

    February 2012
  • eddiehiggins

    If I write a song about my national heritage, and record it on an album full of mystical/occult/pagan symbols, it's still political even if I refuse to admit it is. If I draw only pictures of working class/poor people it's political. If I use the term undocumented immigrant instead of illegal immigrant it's political. I don't see what's the point in debating this though, because you are going to end up saying that ultimately "real communists" would argue that they should completely enforce their political interpretations on to others, which is something I disagree with.

    February 2012
  • eddiehiggins

    I wouldn't call those examples obscure, nor would I call them short-term. Furthermore, critiquing them simply on the fact that they didn't last indefinitely (or for whatever length of time you determine is "long-term") is sort of ridiculous. Primarily, because every example I mentioned wasn't brought down by internal contradictions but by outside force.

    February 2012
  • Slovanka

    Well such obscure examples are irrelevant, since they didn't make it through in long-term. No, not everything is political. Not in a current state of affairs, at least, when it comes to the Balkans (never was and hopefully never will be). You might personally politicize whatever you want, but others might not see it that way. But once you get in power, you can force that politicization (integration into the party and into the state) on people and that's what happened in Eastern Bloc with various degrees of success. Politicization, as I use it now, is a term used in political science. Total (absolute) politicization is one of the basic definitions (traits) of totalitarianism and is opposed to authoritarianism (depolitization, demassification of politics). Of course total politicization was never achieved, but they were trying. I am not sure, if there was a country in South-Eastern Europe that achieved Communist Party membership to be at least 50% of citizens.

    February 2012
  • eddiehiggins

    Marx distinguished between personal and private property. Private property is the means of production, where as personal property is your toothbrush, your car, etc. The point about communism is that private property should be abolished, not personal property. On another note, I don't understand what you're getting at by asserting that communists politicize everything, since everything is already political. Finally, I think it's slightly dishonest to take one example of communism and claim it represents the ideology as a whole. Sure, most Marxists believed in Marxist-Leninism, but there are plenty of examples of non-Marxist-Leninist communist societies, such as Anarchist Catalonia, the Ukranian Free State, Autonomous Shinmin, etc.

    February 2012
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