Last.fm Boffin - Local Radio Tech Demo [0.0.4 released]

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- mxcl said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 20:45
Last.fm Boffin - Local Radio Tech Demo [0.0.4 released]

Scroll down for new releases and download links!

May I restate that this is a demo? Thanks :) This software isn't an indication of Last.fm's product direction or anything like that. Well sorta... That's why we're after your feedback.

Boffin is Last.fm radio, for your local music. Fire it up, select your music directories, and let it roll for a while. Eventually you'll get a tag cloud like this:

The cloud represents your music collection coupled with Last.fm tag data. Select a few, maybe rock and female vocalists:

Click play! Boffin will scrobble via the official Last.fm client.

You can even resolve xspfs:

Try this one: http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/1.0/tag/rock/toptracks.xspf

But you'll need to download Boffin first!

Windows: http://cdn.last.fm/client/Boffin-0.0.7.msi [1]
Mac: http://cdn.last.fm/client/Boffin-0.0.4.dmg [2]
Source: http://cdn.last.fm/client/boffin-0.0.4.tar.bz2 [3]

Let us know what we can do to improve it.

Max

ps For the tracks in the directories you choose, we ask for the global tags from Last.fm. This means that by using Boffin you are sending your track metadata to Last.fm. Now, having said this, we don't store this data, it is merely a service that looks at the track data submitted and gives back a whopping great list of tags so we can generate the above cloud. But anyway, most of you who scrobble have already submitted all this information :P

[1] mac and source builds of 0.0.5 on the way.

[2] It seems we don't support Tiger, I'll rectify this next release. It is however a universal binary, so PPC Leopard installs will work.

[3] Mash it up and add cool stuff and send us patches!

Audioscrobbler.app
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[quote][b][user]mxcl[/user][/b] said: [b]Scroll down for new releases and download links![/b] May I restate that this is a demo? Thanks :) This software isn't an indication of Last.fm's product direction or anything like that. Well sorta... That's why we're after your feedback. Boffin is Last.fm radio, for your local music. Fire it up, select your music directories, and let it roll for a while. Eventually you'll get a tag cloud like this: [img]http://cdn.last.fm/client/images/screenshots/boffin-0.0.3-4.png[/img] The cloud represents your music collection coupled with Last.fm tag data. Select a few, maybe rock and female vocalists: [img]http://cdn.last.fm/client/images/screenshots/boffin-0.0.3-5.png[/img] Click play! Boffin will scrobble via the official Last.fm client. You can even resolve [url=http://www.xspf.org/]xspfs[/url]: [img]http://cdn.last.fm/client/images/screenshots/boffin-0.0.3-3.png[/img] Try this one: http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/1.0/tag/rock/toptracks.xspf But you'll need to download Boffin first! Windows: http://cdn.last.fm/client/Boffin-0.0.7.msi [1] Mac: http://cdn.last.fm/client/Boffin-0.0.4.dmg [2] Source: http://cdn.last.fm/client/boffin-0.0.4.tar.bz2 [3] Let us know what we can do to improve it. Max ps For the tracks in the directories you choose, we ask for the global tags from Last.fm. This means that by using Boffin you are sending your track metadata to Last.fm. Now, having said this, we don't store this data, it is merely a service that looks at the track data submitted and gives back a whopping great list of tags so we can generate the above cloud. But anyway, most of you who scrobble have already submitted all this information :P [1] mac and source builds of 0.0.5 on the way. [2] It seems we don't support Tiger, I'll rectify this next release. It is however a universal binary, so PPC Leopard installs will work. [3] Mash it up and add cool stuff and send us patches![/quote]
Edited by mxcl on 11 Mar 2009, 19:06

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- maz35 said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 21:55
Now this is interesting, trying it out!

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[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: Now this is interesting, trying it out![/quote]

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- maz35 said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:38
First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.

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[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.[/quote]

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- mdotbb said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:44
I've been waiting a long time for something like this (from Last.fm)! Trying it out now...

[quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: I've been waiting a long time for something like this (from Last.fm)! Trying it out now... [/quote]

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- mdotbb said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:48
no tags?

What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found.

[quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found. [/quote]

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- dougma said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:49
maz35 said:
First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.

Hi Maz35,

Thanks for trying it out! Are you on Windows?

We use Qt's Phonon system which is a thin layer over Microsoft's Directshow. And, surprisingly, Directshow has problems with a lot of MP3's out there.

But, we've found a 3rd party Directshow filter which you can install which makes them work!

Until I get the installer working, it's going to be a bit of a hassle, but give it a shot:

1. Download http://cdn.last.fm/client/WMFDemux.zip
2. Put the WMFDemux.dll somewhere (like the Boffin directory)
3. As an admin, at a command prompt: regsvr32 WMFDemux.dll
4. Give Boffin another spin.

You can unregister that dll with: regsvr32 /u WMFDemux.dll

cheers,
doug.

[quote][b][user]dougma[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.[/quote] Hi Maz35, Thanks for trying it out! Are you on Windows? We use Qt's Phonon system which is a thin layer over Microsoft's Directshow. And, surprisingly, Directshow has problems with a lot of MP3's out there. But, we've found a 3rd party Directshow filter which you can install which makes them work! Until I get the installer working, it's going to be a bit of a hassle, but give it a shot: 1. Download http://cdn.last.fm/client/WMFDemux.zip 2. Put the WMFDemux.dll somewhere (like the Boffin directory) 3. As an admin, at a command prompt: regsvr32 WMFDemux.dll 4. Give Boffin another spin. You can unregister that dll with: regsvr32 /u WMFDemux.dll cheers, doug.[/quote]

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- mxcl said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:51
Yeah it's likely the problem with it stopping is an MP3 Windows' codec system doesn't like. See Doug's post above. If it is this problem, skipping again should get a track that works.

We're planning to release an update soon that addresses this. Boffin has auto-update built in.

Audioscrobbler.app
www.methylblue.com

[quote][b][user]mxcl[/user][/b] said: Yeah it's likely the problem with it stopping is an MP3 Windows' codec system doesn't like. See Doug's post above. If it is this problem, skipping again should get a track that works. We're planning to release an update soon that addresses this. Boffin has auto-update built in.[/quote]

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- dougma said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:52
Re: no tags?

mdotbb said:
What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found.

Hi mdotbb,

It should download the tags from last.fm as it scans...

Are you on Windows? Did you permit it to access the net? Have you trying re-running Boffin?

doug.

mxcl says: oh yeah, also Internet connection required for the scan step.

[quote][b][user]dougma[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found. [/quote] Hi mdotbb, It should download the tags from last.fm as it scans... Are you on Windows? Did you permit it to access the net? Have you trying re-running Boffin? doug. mxcl says: oh yeah, also Internet connection required for the scan step. [/quote]
Edited by mxcl on 3 Mar 2009, 22:53

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- mxcl said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 22:52
Re: no tags?

mdotbb said:
What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found.

Currently we only support MP3. But we should be able to support most tag and music formats. Although I can't promise a timeline.

There is a bug where the tag cloud doesn't display unless you restart Boffin. So possibly you can try that.

Audioscrobbler.app
www.methylblue.com

[quote][b][user]mxcl[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: What's the tag source? It scanned my music location, but shows no tags have been found. [/quote] Currently we only support MP3. But we should be able to support most tag and music formats. Although I can't promise a timeline. There is a bug where the tag cloud doesn't display unless you restart Boffin. So possibly you can try that.[/quote]

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- mdotbb said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 23:00
Apple Losless

Ah, my collection is Apple Lossless. Heartbroken.

[quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: Ah, my collection is Apple Lossless. Heartbroken. [/quote]

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- mxcl said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 23:06
I'll do my best to get you support for that soon. It's all AAC init? Apple Lossless?

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[quote][b][user]mxcl[/user][/b] said: I'll do my best to get you support for that soon. It's all AAC init? Apple Lossless?[/quote]

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- DDTT said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 23:07
XP Pro SP3 here
I get the " failed to initialize properly 0xc0000005" error when I go to run it. Tried installing the Visual C files, but the installation just hangs, the extraction window closes, and MSIEXEC sits idly in task manager.

[quote][b][user]DDTT[/user][/b] said: XP Pro SP3 here I get the " failed to initialize properly 0xc0000005" error when I go to run it. Tried installing the Visual C files, but the installation just hangs, the extraction window closes, and MSIEXEC sits idly in task manager.[/quote]

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- mdotbb said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 23:20
mxcl said:
I'll do my best to get you support for that soon. It's all AAC init? Apple Lossless?

That would be great. Thanks! They are all Apple Lossless (.m4a).

[quote][b][user]mdotbb[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]mxcl[/user][/b] said: I'll do my best to get you support for that soon. It's all AAC init? Apple Lossless?[/quote] That would be great. Thanks! They are all Apple Lossless (.m4a). [/quote]

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- maz35 said...
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- 3 Mar 2009, 23:59
dougma said:
maz35 said:
First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.

Hi Maz35,

Thanks for trying it out! Are you on Windows?

We use Qt's Phonon system which is a thin layer over Microsoft's Directshow. And, surprisingly, Directshow has problems with a lot of MP3's out there.

But, we've found a 3rd party Directshow filter which you can install which makes them work!

Until I get the installer working, it's going to be a bit of a hassle, but give it a shot:

1. Download http://cdn.last.fm/client/WMFDemux.zip
2. Put the WMFDemux.dll somewhere (like the Boffin directory)
3. As an admin, at a command prompt: regsvr32 WMFDemux.dll
4. Give Boffin another spin.

You can unregister that dll with: regsvr32 /u WMFDemux.dll

cheers,
doug.
yes I'm on window vista, should have mentioned that.

I will try that dll file however...

Yeah it's likely the problem with it stopping is an MP3 Windows' codec system doesn't like. See Doug's post above. If it is this problem, skipping again should get a track that works.
This doesn't seem to be the issue as once I get one silent file all subsequent tracks are also silent.

The Tag Appreciation Society | The Last.fm Mass Tagger

[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]dougma[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: First issue is no sound is heard after a few skips and I have to restart. The song selection seems ok so far anyway.[/quote] Hi Maz35, Thanks for trying it out! Are you on Windows? We use Qt's Phonon system which is a thin layer over Microsoft's Directshow. And, surprisingly, Directshow has problems with a lot of MP3's out there. But, we've found a 3rd party Directshow filter which you can install which makes them work! Until I get the installer working, it's going to be a bit of a hassle, but give it a shot: 1. Download http://cdn.last.fm/client/WMFDemux.zip 2. Put the WMFDemux.dll somewhere (like the Boffin directory) 3. As an admin, at a command prompt: regsvr32 WMFDemux.dll 4. Give Boffin another spin. You can unregister that dll with: regsvr32 /u WMFDemux.dll cheers, doug.[/quote] yes I'm on window vista, should have mentioned that. I will try that dll file however... [quote]Yeah it's likely the problem with it stopping is an MP3 Windows' codec system doesn't like. See Doug's post above. If it is this problem, skipping again should get a track that works.[/quote] This doesn't seem to be the issue as once I get one silent file all subsequent tracks are also silent.[/quote]

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- symphonicknot said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 00:42
I am in love with the scanner screen

Seriously, am I the only one who just sat and watched it go by?
Cute as :-)

[quote][b][user]symphonicknot[/user][/b] said: Seriously, am I the only one who just sat and watched it go by? Cute as :-) [/quote]

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- RJ said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 00:48
My 80s tag in Boffin is awesome. Good work chaps.

Information wants to be beer.

[quote][b][user]RJ[/user][/b] said: My 80s tag in Boffin is awesome. Good work chaps.[/quote]

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- unnamedculprit said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 00:52
Crash

If you want to make it crash on a mac, hit spacebar while it is scanning your music :)
(I do realise this is only a demo, I just thought I'd let you know)
I had my window focus on Boffin instead of Safari accidentally!

oooh, It's good though!

[quote][b][user]unnamedculprit[/user][/b] said: If you want to make it crash on a mac, hit spacebar while it is scanning your music :) (I do realise this is only a demo, I just thought I'd let you know) I had my window focus on Boffin instead of Safari accidentally! oooh, It's good though![/quote]

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- maz35 said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 01:04
Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem.

I agree on the scanner screen. That must be the first scanner screen thats actually nice to watch ever :P

The Tag Appreciation Society | The Last.fm Mass Tagger

[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem. I agree on the scanner screen. That must be the first scanner screen thats actually nice to watch ever :P[/quote]

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- dougma said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 01:15
maz35 said:
Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem.

:(

Maybe the log will reveal something; see the Tools menu.

You can email the log to me if you like: doug@last.fm

[quote][b][user]dougma[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem.[/quote] :( Maybe the log will reveal something; see the Tools menu. You can email the log to me if you like: doug@last.fm [/quote]

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- akrde said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 07:00
Nice app, will try it out...

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- rubzn said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 08:03
AWESOME!

[quote][b][user]rubzn[/user][/b] said: AWESOME![/quote]

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- maz35 said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 09:20
dougma said:
maz35 said:
Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem.

:(

Maybe the log will reveal something; see the Tools menu.

You can email the log to me if you like: doug@last.fm

Done!

Another thing I noticed is boffin wont exit properly and hogs resources if this problem is encountered. I have to end it via the task manager.

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[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]dougma[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: Ok I tried the dll file but I still get the same problem.[/quote] :( Maybe the log will reveal something; see the Tools menu. You can email the log to me if you like: doug@last.fm [/quote] Done! Another thing I noticed is boffin wont exit properly and hogs resources if this problem is encountered. I have to end it via the task manager.[/quote]

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- stuartsjm said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 11:33
Nice One... Good idea, I really like it!

As a potential improvement down the line, it appears that at the moment selecting multiple tags provides an OR outcome (i.e. Boffin will play tracks tagged with '90s' OR 'Pop'. What would be really useful would be the ability to make it an AND (i.e. Boffin will play tracks that are tagged with '90s' AND 'Pop'.)

[quote][b][user]stuartsjm[/user][/b] said: Nice One... Good idea, I really like it! As a potential improvement down the line, it appears that at the moment selecting multiple tags provides an OR outcome (i.e. Boffin will play tracks tagged with '90s' OR 'Pop'. What would be really useful would be the ability to make it an AND (i.e. Boffin will play tracks that are tagged with '90s' AND 'Pop'.)[/quote]

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- cdr_jameson said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 13:08
crash on macos x

works fine when starting it from mounted DMG, but crashes when copied to /Applications

Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/QtOpenGL.framework/Versions/4/QtOpenGL
Referenced from: /Applications/Boffin.app/Contents/MacOS/boffin
Reason: image not found

[quote][b][user]cdr_jameson[/user][/b] said: works fine when starting it from mounted DMG, but crashes when copied to /Applications [quote] Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/QtOpenGL.framework/Versions/4/QtOpenGL Referenced from: /Applications/Boffin.app/Contents/MacOS/boffin Reason: image not found[/quote][/quote]

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- maz35 said...
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- 4 Mar 2009, 13:49
Like I said to doug via email, for some reason its not loading up at all for me now. I see the process in task manager but no program loads up. Shame as it seems a really cool app.

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[quote][b][user]maz35[/user][/b] said: Like I said to doug via email, for some reason its not loading up at all for me now. I see the process in task manager but no program loads up. Shame as it seems a really cool app.[/quote]

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