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Leader : dyingdreams
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Créé le : 18 déc. 2008
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A group for people who have read and enjoyed Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand or feel affinity with its philosophy.

"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. To live, man must hold three things as the supreme and ruling values of his life: Reason, Purpose, Self-esteem. I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not compromise his love or his values."

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Part of Anti-Socialism (host of other Recommended Books and the Collectivist Hall of Fame)

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  • doctorjmo

    i love that statue!! atlas!!

    19 jui. 2011 Répondre
  • MostShitty

    If someone is too dumb or too blind to see how Ayn Rand is very far from Nietzsche, then I pity his or her parents [3]

    28 déc. 2010 Répondre
  • themysterious1

    Ben er nu in aan het lezen, geen simpel boekje toch :)

    20 août 2010 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    What's your point? Also, I highly doubt I need any lectures on Nietzsche from either of you ;)

    23 juin 2010 Répondre
  • xjasonleebyasx

    If someone is too dumb or too blind to see how Ayn Rand is very far from Nietzsche, then I pity his parents. [2]

    1 juin 2010 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    It's true, they're quite far apart, but that does not mean you cannot enjoy them both :) I know I do.

    15 mai 2010 Répondre
  • Aryo

    If someone is too dumb or too blind to see, how Ayn Rand is very far from Nietzsche, then I pity his parents.

    26 mars 2010 Répondre
  • StDionysus

    5th rate Nietzsche.

    1 déc. 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    Don't think I didn't enjoy it though :o)

    11 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • Eleven2Three

    Nothing, I guess, since the arguments have been stated and we haven't come to an agreement :P

    10 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    I did not say that that was or is my intention, I just figured it might have given you some peace of mind ;o) I stated my reasons for putting those artists here quite clearly, I acknowledge your objections to them and agree with some - but not all - of your estimations regarding the personality of some of the listed artists. I have also taken your objections to having them "connected" into account, yet don't recognize these to be valid. I also told you why. You do not agree with me, I do not agree with you (on this particular matter), and in the end I'm the one making or removing connections to artists. What more is there to say.

    9 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • Eleven2Three

    That's true, I never did think of it that way. And if you were a honest man, you would admit that that's not your reason for putting such artists up there. If it were, you wouldn't have associated this group only with "anti-socialism" but with an unlimited political and philosophical spectrum. There's no end to the list of such antithesises. And don't tell me you would associate yourself with groups denouncing capitalism and preaching socialism or mysticism. That would be practicing what you preach.

    8 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    I take it you have never thought of it this way: if Jim Taggart made music I'd connect him to the group as well, because an antithesis of an idea is as much connected to it as a stereotypical example.

    6 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • Eleven2Three

    You're completely taking my words out of context. I'm not talking about socialists, and I'm not at all opposed to the vocal chords of a socialist. You haven't seen me mention the word socialist, nor imply it. As for these artists, I'm talking about impurity; the kind of moral fraudulence it takes to create a Banner-like product - or do the things Borsato does. Now there's something that's strongly conflicting with the objectivist view of life.

    5 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • KingZoraScoot

    disgusting scum of the earth in this group

    5 avr. 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    I take it you haven't read the book.

    25 mars 2009 Répondre
  • c4t2007

    If Atlas doesn't give a shit about the world, why should the world give a shit about Atlas?

    24 mars 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    Yes, I AM, in fact, Atlas Shrugged... The point is that this is a music site; once AS itself can make connections I leave it free to do so; until then I'll be making them here based on my own preferences. K3 is a perfect product, although, I agree, more in a The Banner than in a Rearden Metal kind of way, but still. Their appearance in the list is based on their cover of "Rustige Oude Dag" by Urbanus. Marco Borsato is indeed an asshole, but I like some of his texts, in which his ideological ineptitude doesn't shine through. In fact, we might even call "Ik Leef Niet Meer Voor Jou" a song for those who opened their eyes to the abuse ;) I understand what you're trying to say though, I just don't agree to it; to me a text in itself or a beautiful voice is completely unconnected from otherwise unrelated stuff. If you want to force yourself into not liking a sound because it was produced by socialist vocal chords, by all means, be my guest.

    14 mars 2009 Répondre
  • Eleven2Three

    So these are basically just connections of your own, and not in some way artists connected to Atlas Shrugged? Or ARE you Atlas Shrugged? Then just what is the point? That's what I'm calling into question. Like I said, you should listen to any artist you feel like listening to, but the whole K3 / Marco Borsato thing (just for example) is so much out of place, I can hardly imagine you taking yourself seriously. K3, that's what my five year old neice likes, and Marco Borsato is a perfect example of a breathing and walking contradiction and person of zero integrity, and it shows in his music. That has little to do with the actual philosophy an artist embraces - it's about the way they go about it. The same goes for the listener.

    14 mars 2009 Répondre
  • dyingdreams

    Actually, I think you should follow Urbanus a little closer before you start calling him a socialist. This is a music site, the connection is to music which I like. That's the connection. You mean I'm not "allowed" to listen to an mp3 of an orchestra because half of their musicians happened to be socialists? Or I can't enjoy an actor playing some Shakespeare because he spends his free time screaming for redistribution of wealth? What does the text in itself have to do with that? Maybe I should be careful when reading books, even purely fictional ones, so that the author doesn't have any socialist tendencies? One thing has nothing to do with the other per se. I don't deal in *that* kind of puritanism, but you're free to do as you please obviously; just don't make the mistake of drawing the wrong conclusions. Or to quote some Atlas Shrugged: "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think that you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong."

    12 mars 2009 Répondre
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