New Streaming Architecture went live!

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- RNR said...
- Staff
- 17 Apr 2005, 15:12
New Streaming Architecture went live!
yoyo, see the last thread for the lowdown. BETA testing was completed there is a few bugs left which we will weed out asap. but it was high time that this thing went online. if features the following:

new recommendation system for the radio

possibility for any "radio mode" we can think of, now we introduced "similar artists radio", all these radio mode names are to fall with the upcoming redesign.

standalone popup player only radio. less buggy (once we got them all).

popup player is using the Radio API. which can now be used for all other funky devices as we are our own clients, so we'll make sure it runs.

Like I said we will keep weeding out bugs, please post below if you find any. also, I guess the broadcast players don't work atm. will fix them asap. stay tuned.

We will also give all this new code a facelift asap. we thought it's better it goes online even tho it looks a bit functional, but we couldn't hold it back any longer. have fun!
Both kinds of music: Rock & Roll - SFTRI

[quote][b][user]RNR[/user][/b] said: yoyo, see the last thread for the lowdown. BETA testing was completed there is a few bugs left which we will weed out asap. but it was high time that this thing went online. if features the following: [ulist][li]new recommendation system for the radio[/li] [li]possibility for any "radio mode" we can think of, now we introduced "similar artists radio", all these radio mode names are to fall with the upcoming redesign.[/li] [li]standalone popup player only radio. less buggy (once we got them all). [/li] [li]popup player is using the Radio API. which can now be used for all other funky devices as we are our own clients, so we'll make sure it runs.[/li] [/ulist] Like I said we will keep weeding out bugs, please post below if you find any. also, I guess the broadcast players don't work atm. will fix them asap. stay tuned. We will also give all this new code a facelift asap. we thought it's better it goes online even tho it looks a bit functional, but we couldn't hold it back any longer. have fun![/quote]

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- jadebrink said...
- Subscriber
- 17 Apr 2005, 16:07
YESSS!

Jade

[quote][b][user]jadebrink[/user][/b] said: YESSS![/quote]

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- bluewaves said...
- User
- 17 Apr 2005, 19:30
The popup window never loads the artist/album/song information to begin with (and thus never updates). Is this to be expected? Is everyone experiencing this?

[quote][b][user]bluewaves[/user][/b] said: The popup window never loads the artist/album/song information to begin with (and thus never updates). Is this to be expected? Is everyone experiencing this?[/quote]

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- abacuspowers said...
- User
- 17 Apr 2005, 21:20
new stuff looks awesome.
I'm not having any problems with the song info

[quote][b][user]abacuspowers[/user][/b] said: new stuff looks awesome. I'm not having any problems with the song info[/quote]

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- giveuptheghost said...
- User
- 17 Apr 2005, 22:58
Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh.

-Scott

[quote][b][user]giveuptheghost[/user][/b] said: Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh. -Scott[/quote]

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- jadebrink said...
- Subscriber
- 18 Apr 2005, 01:01
Re:

Quoth giveuptheghost:
Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh.

-Scott

I've had that happen a few times as well and sometimes if the computer goes to screensaver I can see that the popup player hasn't refreshed (to be expected). Neither seem to hamper the stream though. I'm really enjoyin' it.

Jade

[quote][b][user]jadebrink[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth giveuptheghost[/b]: Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh. -Scott[/quote] I've had that happen a few times as well and sometimes if the computer goes to screensaver I can see that the popup player hasn't refreshed (to be expected). Neither seem to hamper the stream though. I'm really enjoyin' it.[/quote]

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- gnat said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 02:48
My stream starts up fine, but my player won't display any information (song, album, album cover, etc.), and my profile page won't display any song titles.

[quote][b][user]gnat[/user][/b] said: My stream starts up fine, but my player won't display any information (song, album, album cover, etc.), and my profile page won't display any song titles.[/quote]

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- abacuspowers said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 07:01
Re:

Quoth giveuptheghost:
Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh.

-Scott

yeah, I had similar issues. it will often start at like 59:50 and go from there. it sometimes doesn't refresh the time, but will refresh the rest of the info. If I press "refresh" it displays the correct time. It's not really a big deal, just a minor bug I guess.

[quote][b][user]abacuspowers[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth giveuptheghost[/b]: Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh. -Scott[/quote] yeah, I had similar issues. it will often start at like 59:50 and go from there. it sometimes doesn't refresh the time, but will refresh the rest of the info. If I press "refresh" it displays the correct time. It's not really a big deal, just a minor bug I guess.[/quote]

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- RainerWahnsinn said...
- Subscriber
- 18 Apr 2005, 07:24
Opera Browser and Last.fm

As an old Opera 7. Browser user I was very disappointed when last.fm suddenly didn't worked anymore with my Opera. I wasn't able to start the player. I even had to trick myself into the profile page. only the link the in the right corner works, the same with serveral other links.

Now I updated to Opera 8, Beta version and SURPRISE ! at least the player seems to work as it should. Some links on the page lead to empty pages like before.

So I beg you, don't let the Opera Users alone ! At least in Germany that Broser is quite popular.

/RainerWahnsinn

[quote][b][user]RainerWahnsinn[/user][/b] said: As an old Opera 7. Browser user I was very disappointed when last.fm suddenly didn't worked anymore with my Opera. I wasn't able to start the player. I even had to trick myself into the profile page. only the link the in the right corner works, the same with serveral other links. Now I updated to Opera 8, Beta version and SURPRISE ! at least the player seems to work as it should. Some links on the page lead to empty pages like before. So I beg you, don't let the Opera Users alone ! At least in Germany that Broser is quite popular. /RainerWahnsinn [/quote]

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- audiosorcerer said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 08:21
similar artist....great :)

wow thats so nice, the similar artist thing, thanks a lot.... you are all wonderfull, hope i can soon send you some money but thats atm quite complicated with paypal and no credit card ;)

[quote][b][user]audiosorcerer[/user][/b] said: wow thats so nice, the similar artist thing, thanks a lot.... you are all wonderfull, hope i can soon send you some money but thats atm quite complicated with paypal and no credit card ;)[/quote]

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- oilster said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 08:42
stream works from last.fm but not at all from blog pop up.

artist, cover and title do not change in pop up from last.fm.
(OSX safari)

[quote][b][user]oilster[/user][/b] said: artist, cover and title do not change in pop up from last.fm. (OSX safari)[/quote]

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- Joule said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 08:50
The stream is working fine for me. Same problem with song info though, the first song always shows, but then it stops. "Refresh Player" and F5 won't help. Sometimes using the pop-up windows from the audioscrobbler page works though.
All songs show in my profile, which is good. :)

▒

[quote][b][user]Joule[/user][/b] said: The stream is working fine for me. Same problem with song info though, the first song always shows, but then it stops. "Refresh Player" and F5 won't help. Sometimes using the pop-up windows from the audioscrobbler page works though. All songs show in my profile, which is good. :)[/quote]

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- Mariannon said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 10:28
Re: Re:

Quoth abacuspowers:
Quoth giveuptheghost:
Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh.

-Scott

yeah, I had similar issues. it will often start at like 59:50 and go from there. it sometimes doesn't refresh the time, but will refresh the rest of the info. If I press "refresh" it displays the correct time. It's not really a big deal, just a minor bug I guess.

Yeah, if you refresh or click Love/Skip/Ban then it displays the correct time.

I don't advocate violence, insanity, alcohol or drugs to anyone; but they've always worked for me.

[quote][b][user]Mariannon[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth abacuspowers[/b]: [quote][b]Quoth giveuptheghost[/b]: Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh. -Scott[/quote] yeah, I had similar issues. it will often start at like 59:50 and go from there. it sometimes doesn't refresh the time, but will refresh the rest of the info. If I press "refresh" it displays the correct time. It's not really a big deal, just a minor bug I guess.[/quote] Yeah, if you refresh or click Love/Skip/Ban then it displays the correct time.[/quote]

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- said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 11:11
oddball time display

Also seeing the 60:02/02:59 issue, plus unreliable refreshes of the popup player. Firefox 1.0.2 on Fedora Core 3.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: Also seeing the 60:02/02:59 issue, plus unreliable refreshes of the popup player. Firefox 1.0.2 on Fedora Core 3.[/quote]

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- drmabuseuk said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 11:49
Popup issues

My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.

[quote][b][user]drmabuseuk[/user][/b] said: My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.[/quote]

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- drmabuseuk said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 11:49
Popup issues

My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.

[quote][b][user]drmabuseuk[/user][/b] said: My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.[/quote]

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- Mariannon said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 11:56
Accessing the popup in Winamp

I've done this by using Open URL in the Winamp Minibrowser and pasting

http://www.last.fm/player/index.php?giveplaylist=1

It seems to be working just fine, could one of the devs confirm to me this won't cause unnecessary stress on the servers or anything like that?

Thanks

I don't advocate violence, insanity, alcohol or drugs to anyone; but they've always worked for me.

[quote][b][user]Mariannon[/user][/b] said: I've done this by using Open URL in the Winamp Minibrowser and pasting http://www.last.fm/player/index.php?giveplaylist=1 It seems to be working just fine, could one of the devs confirm to me this won't cause unnecessary stress on the servers or anything like that? Thanks[/quote]

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- RainerWahnsinn said...
- Subscriber
- 18 Apr 2005, 12:35
Also unreliable refreh with Opera 8

the popup player also has refreh problems in Opera 8.
if you press refreh within the popup player, time and title are shown correctly.

[quote][b][user]RainerWahnsinn[/user][/b] said: the popup player also has refreh problems in Opera 8. if you press refreh within the popup player, time and title are shown correctly.[/quote]

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- juhwe said...
- Subscriber
- 18 Apr 2005, 15:20
Re: New Streaming Architecture went live!
Quoth RNR:

possibility for any "radio mode" we can think of, now we introduced "similar artists radio", all these radio mode names are to fall with the upcoming redesign.

Is this only for users who have donated? I mean i don't see any new radio modes...
[quote][b][user]juhwe[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth RNR[/b]: [ulist] [li]possibility for any "radio mode" we can think of, now we introduced "similar artists radio", all these radio mode names are to fall with the upcoming redesign.[/li][/ulist] [/quote] Is this only for users who have donated? I mean i don't see any new radio modes...[/quote]

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- mischa said...
- Subscriber
- 18 Apr 2005, 15:33
similar artist mode is available for all users on every artist page (top left box -> similar artists)

[quote][b][user]mischa[/user][/b] said: similar artist mode is available for all users on every artist page (top left box -> similar artists)[/quote]

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- ajwilkers04 said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 15:51
Pop up window failure

The popup window isn't workin for me at all. Music is playing, I have no idea what it is and no ability to ban it.

[quote][b][user]ajwilkers04[/user][/b] said: The popup window isn't workin for me at all. Music is playing, I have no idea what it is and no ability to ban it.[/quote]

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- carlsonloggie said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 16:10
Re: Popup issues

Quoth drmabuseuk:
My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.
I've got the same problem; using IE 6.0.2800,1106 at work, I have to close the popup player and restart it to find out what is playing. It won't automatically refresh, and won't refresh using the refresh button. I suspect it is a firewall issue; it's a firewall I don't control, so I just have to live with it. Are you using a different communications protocol or port assignment for the popup player refresh, or is it the standare HTTP port 80?

Kristofer Carlson

[quote][b][user]carlsonloggie[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth drmabuseuk[/b]: My popup window works fine for the first song, but even refreshing it, after the initial song does nothing. I have to close the popup and re pop it to get it to refresh.[/quote] I've got the same problem; using IE 6.0.2800,1106 at work, I have to close the popup player and restart it to find out what is playing. It won't automatically refresh, and won't refresh using the refresh button. I suspect it is a firewall issue; it's a firewall I don't control, so I just have to live with it. Are you using a different communications protocol or port assignment for the popup player refresh, or is it the standare HTTP port 80? [/quote]

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- carlsonloggie said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 16:18
Re:

Quoth giveuptheghost:
Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh.

-Scott

At home, using Firefox 1.0.3, the popup will automatically refresh if it is the active window. If it is not been on top, using the "Refresh Player" link will usually load the correct information. I do have the 59:00/05:00 problem, though. It will count up to sixty something minutes, then the next thing I know it is back down to fifty something minutes. The song length seems to count up alright, just not the length of time the player has been running.

Also, while the WMP 9 time sync problem was mostly fixed, this new change seems to have broken it somewhat. After a little while, the song being displayed in the popup and the song being played in WMP 9 no longer match up.

Kristofer Carlson

[quote][b][user]carlsonloggie[/user][/b] said: [quote][b]Quoth giveuptheghost[/b]: Often it will show something like 59:00/05:00, even after player refresh. -Scott[/quote] At home, using Firefox 1.0.3, the popup will automatically refresh if it is the active window. If it is not been on top, using the "Refresh Player" link will usually load the correct information. I do have the 59:00/05:00 problem, though. It will count up to sixty something minutes, then the next thing I know it is back down to fifty something minutes. The song length seems to count up alright, just not the length of time the player has been running. Also, while the WMP 9 time sync problem was mostly fixed, this new change seems to have broken it somewhat. After a little while, the song being displayed in the popup and the song being played in WMP 9 no longer match up.[/quote]

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- nogerorob said...
- User
- 18 Apr 2005, 18:05
Record to Profile Check Box

Last.fm is dope.

For the new popup window, i would suggest a slight gui change. The Record to profile should maybe be a button rather than a little check box.

Check boxs generally require an "apply" button to set the change. It is good that the player doesn't require this, but still a bit against convention.

This could work, but it should display a little "(no longer recording to profile)" in red for a few seconds to make it clear that clicking the box has changed the status of player behind the scenes correctly.

It is great though. keep up the good work.

rob

ps. i'm on firefox 1.02, and the pop up window is working correctly for me as far as I can tell. no problems with the stream.

[quote][b][user]nogerorob[/user][/b] said: Last.fm is dope. For the new popup window, i would suggest a slight gui change. The Record to profile should maybe be a button rather than a little check box. Check boxs generally require an "apply" button to set the change. It is good that the player doesn't require this, but still a bit against convention. This could work, but it should display a little "(no longer recording to profile)" in red for a few seconds to make it clear that clicking the box has changed the status of player behind the scenes correctly. It is great though. keep up the good work. rob ps. i'm on firefox 1.02, and the pop up window is working correctly for me as far as I can tell. no problems with the stream. [/quote]
Edited by nogerorob on 18 Apr 2005, 18:08

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- datasoup said...
- Subscriber
- 19 Apr 2005, 03:05
Refresh

Popup never refreshes without closing and restarting it. Had this problem before the upgrade though. Some kind of timeout problem? I'm in the middle of U.S. so 15 hops to get to www.last.fm (about 150 milliseconds right now).

[quote][b][user]datasoup[/user][/b] said: Popup never refreshes without closing and restarting it. Had this problem before the upgrade though. Some kind of timeout problem? I'm in the middle of U.S. so 15 hops to get to www.last.fm (about 150 milliseconds right now).[/quote]

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