Apple Ping vs. Last.fm

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- szgourmet said...
- User
- 1 Sep 2010, 18:08
Apple Ping vs. Last.fm

I just watched the Apple keynote and Steve Jobs showed a new iTunes based service called "Ping". It's an all-in-one-Facebook-Twitter-Last.fm. It will be available with the next iTunes version.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=3237762&pagtype=allchandate

Do you think this service will have serious effects on last.fm?

[quote][b][user]szgourmet[/user][/b] said: I just watched the Apple keynote and Steve Jobs showed a new iTunes based service called "Ping". It's an all-in-one-Facebook-Twitter-Last.fm. It will be available with the next iTunes version. http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=3237762&pagtype=allchandate Do you think this service will have serious effects on last.fm?[/quote]

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- sidewinder03 said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 18:25
Seems like last.fm will never get the wide-spread attention is deserves, unfortunately. I would love to be connected with many of my real-life friends on last.fm but many of them are not geeky enough about music to join. However, they probably all use iTunes and will most likely use Ping.

Not good news for last.fm, IMO. :(

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[quote][b][user]sidewinder03[/user][/b] said: Seems like last.fm will never get the wide-spread attention is deserves, unfortunately. I would love to be connected with many of my real-life friends on last.fm but many of them are not geeky enough about music to join. However, they probably all use iTunes and will most likely use Ping. Not good news for last.fm, IMO. :([/quote]

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- DominoDub said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 18:38
Was thinking the same while watch he Key note ...ah crap poor last.fm is what I said to myself
http://www.last.fm/forum/5/_/644859

[quote][b][user]DominoDub[/user][/b] said: Was thinking the same while watch he Key note ...ah crap poor last.fm is what I said to myself http://www.last.fm/forum/5/_/644859[/quote]

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- zacharymazlan said...
- User
- 1 Sep 2010, 18:48
Me too... I hope last.fm finds some way to integrate with Ping - When it comes to social networking, why can't we ALL be friends?

[quote][b][user]zacharymazlan[/user][/b] said: Me too... I hope last.fm finds some way to integrate with Ping - When it comes to social networking, why can't we ALL be friends?[/quote]

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- FreyaFM said...
- User
- 1 Sep 2010, 18:53
I really hope that last.fm won't suffer under this. Gah, I hate Apple so much.

[quote][b][user]FreyaFM[/user][/b] said: I really hope that last.fm won't suffer under this. Gah, I hate Apple so much.[/quote]

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- FreyaFM said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 18:56
Have you seen the screenshots, by the way? It's a total Facebook rip-off.

[quote][b][user]FreyaFM[/user][/b] said: Have you seen the screenshots, by the way? It's a total Facebook rip-off.[/quote]

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- numblog said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 19:36
Not everyone is using Apple or iTunes, so relax. Also, the API of last.fm is much more open than Apple's ever will be, so it's a lot easier to write 3rd party applications for last.fm .. I guess.

[quote][b][user]numblog[/user][/b] said: Not everyone is using Apple or iTunes, so relax. Also, the API of last.fm is much more open than Apple's ever will be, so it's a lot easier to write 3rd party applications for last.fm .. I guess.[/quote]

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- sam_george said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 19:39
Just hope the last.fm scrobbler will work with iTunes...I think that ping could enhance last.fm so much.

I was expecting iTunes to have an "on-demand" player to piss all over Spotify, I guess I loose my bet at work :(

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[quote][b][user]sam_george[/user][/b] said: Just hope the last.fm scrobbler will work with iTunes...I think that ping could enhance last.fm so much. I was expecting iTunes to have an "on-demand" player to piss all over Spotify, I guess I loose my bet at work :([/quote]

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- WichitaQ said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 19:58
well, it is better in some things, samples for example. and the twitter / facebook integration. it's just that i don't care, and i don't need it. i have my own last.fm charts to stare at <3

i hope it doesn't severely impact last.fm, though.

[quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] said: well, it is better in some things, samples for example. and the twitter / facebook integration. it's just that i don't care, and i don't need it. i have my own last.fm charts to stare at <3 i hope it doesn't severely impact last.fm, though.[/quote]

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- deepsignal said...
- User
- 1 Sep 2010, 20:01
@numblog It does not matter. If you could compare the number of active iTunes installs vs the number of active Last.fm users all the API calls in the world will not keep would-be Last.fm users from discovering and liking the new features in Ping/iTunes 10. But really we'll just have to wait and see what the experience is like.

my music: http://www.last.fm/music/N.Sputnik/Singles+2010

[quote][b][user]deepsignal[/user][/b] said: @numblog It does not matter. If you could compare the number of active iTunes installs vs the number of active Last.fm users all the API calls in the world will not keep would-be Last.fm users from discovering and liking the new features in Ping/iTunes 10. But really we'll just have to wait and see what the experience is like.[/quote]

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- Citizen1 said...
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- 1 Sep 2010, 20:05
sam_george said:
Just hope the last.fm scrobbler will work with iTunes...I think that ping could enhance last.fm so much.

I was expecting iTunes to have an "on-demand" player to piss all over Spotify, I guess I loose my bet at work :(Thing is, given the price of Apple's products and services, I reckon it'd still be more expensive than Spottify. Although, I suppose it would be justified this time, given that the iTunes music catalogue is like 5-6x the size of the Spotify one + it has videos, books, TV Shows and god knows what else.

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[quote][b][user]Citizen1[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]sam_george[/user][/b] said: Just hope the last.fm scrobbler will work with iTunes...I think that ping could enhance last.fm so much. I was expecting iTunes to have an "on-demand" player to piss all over Spotify, I guess I loose my bet at work :([/quote]Thing is, given the price of Apple's products and services, I reckon it'd still be more expensive than Spottify. Although, I suppose it would be justified this time, given that the iTunes music catalogue is like 5-6x the size of the Spotify one + it has videos, books, TV Shows and god knows what else.[/quote]

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- [Deleted user] said...
- User
- 1 Sep 2010, 20:34
The thing that still drives me nuts is that last.fm can't find my friends in other networks (gmail, fb, twitter), which is something almost every other service in the world offers on initial setup and at any time after that. I use last.fm to keep track of stats more than anything...so if Ping allows me to actually connect with more friends, I'll probably jump ship.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: The thing that still drives me nuts is that last.fm can't find my friends in other networks (gmail, fb, twitter), which is something almost every other service in the world offers on initial setup and at any time after that. I use last.fm to keep track of stats more than anything...so if Ping allows me to actually connect with more friends, I'll probably jump ship.[/quote]

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- xerch said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 00:45
@newpolluter: I second that, i love last.fm, but if i can connect better with ping, well, lets say goodbye to last.fm.

But i don't think so, i think that ping will offer less than last.fm does, but let's see.

[quote][b][user]xerch[/user][/b] said: @newpolluter: I second that, i love last.fm, but if i can connect better with ping, well, lets say goodbye to last.fm. But i don't think so, i think that ping will offer less than last.fm does, but let's see. [/quote]

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- Oldbean said...
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- 2 Sep 2010, 00:49
FreyaFM said:
I really hope that last.fm won't suffer under this. Gah, I hate Apple so much.

Because of this? How is this something they shouldn't be doing?

[quote][b][user]Oldbean[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]FreyaFM[/user][/b] said: I really hope that last.fm won't suffer under this. [b]Gah, I hate Apple so much.[/b][/quote] Because of this? How is this something they shouldn't be doing?[/quote]

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- IRONICtypo said...
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- 2 Sep 2010, 01:15
I doubt Ping will do everything last.fm does. It might do something similar, but not everything. And I doubt people will leave Last.fm, Facebook and Twitter, where they have a history - and go over to this place. Especially people who don't like Apple or iTunes.

Also, I joined last.fm for stats, and Ping looks like it has no stats.

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[quote][b][user]IRONICtypo[/user][/b] said: I doubt Ping will do everything last.fm does. It might do something similar, but not everything. And I doubt people will leave Last.fm, Facebook and Twitter, where they have a history - and go over to this place. Especially people who don't like Apple or iTunes. Also, I joined last.fm for stats, and Ping looks like it has no stats.[/quote]

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- Oldbean said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 02:09
I mean, how likely is it that Apple's going to introduce this thing, it's gonna suck, and even though it sucks, it kills Last.Fm? Not likely at all, I'm thinking. So what's to worry about?

[quote][b][user]Oldbean[/user][/b] said: I mean, how likely is it that Apple's going to introduce this thing, it's gonna suck, and even though it sucks, it kills Last.Fm? Not likely at all, I'm thinking. So what's to worry about? [/quote]

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- eswatfm said...
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- 2 Sep 2010, 02:15
Well, played with Ping for a while. Can definitely say that this is no Last.fm killer, not even close.

Also, manual approval for profile photos… really?

[quote][b][user]eswatfm[/user][/b] said: Well, played with Ping for a while. Can definitely say that this is no Last.fm killer, not even close. Also, manual approval for profile photos… really?[/quote]

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- jessem131 said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 02:50
Ping might be interesting if actual people I know would use it. Last.FM is still much better, but I agree. Add Facebook friend finding and integration to Last.FM and it might get a wider audience.

[quote][b][user]jessem131[/user][/b] said: Ping might be interesting if actual people I know would use it. Last.FM is still much better, but I agree. Add Facebook friend finding and integration to Last.FM and it might get a wider audience.[/quote]

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- duuglas said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 04:08
I agree, after using Ping for about 30 minutes I don't think it provides the "social stuff" like last.fm.

eswatfm said:
Well, played with Ping for a while. Can definitely say that this is no Last.fm killer, not even close.

Also, manual approval for profile photos… really?

[quote][b][user]duuglas[/user][/b] said: I agree, after using Ping for about 30 minutes I don't think it provides the "social stuff" like last.fm. [quote][b][user]eswatfm[/user][/b] said: Well, played with Ping for a while. Can definitely say that this is no Last.fm killer, not even close. Also, manual approval for profile photos… really?[/quote][/quote]

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- duuglas said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 04:09
Ping is a total facebook ripoff. Right down to the color theme. Unimpressed.

[quote][b][user]duuglas[/user][/b] said: Ping is a total facebook ripoff. Right down to the color theme. Unimpressed.[/quote]

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- Martyrsaregay said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 04:22
Ping won't catch on. The Zune Social didn't catch on, and ping will be a curiosity for a very short time, then dwindle. A social network defined solely by an interest as specific as music does not interest people. For the same reason the Zune HD is dead, and the iPod Touch still sells like crazy. People enjoy a little of everything (Music, games, communication), and if a service provides a little of everything (Facebook), people will flock to it, no matter how flawed that service might be (Facebook).

[quote][b][user]Martyrsaregay[/user][/b] said: Ping won't catch on. The Zune Social didn't catch on, and ping will be a curiosity for a very short time, then dwindle. A social network defined solely by an interest as specific as music does not interest people. For the same reason the Zune HD is dead, and the iPod Touch still sells like crazy. People enjoy a little of everything (Music, games, communication), and if a service provides a little of everything (Facebook), people will flock to it, no matter how flawed that service might be (Facebook).[/quote]

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- carrotjuicer said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 05:14
last.fm > ping

[quote][b][user]carrotjuicer[/user][/b] said: last.fm > ping[/quote]

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- akrde said...
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- 2 Sep 2010, 05:45
Ping is about downloading, not about streaming. So not interested in it...

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[quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] said: Ping is about downloading, not about streaming. So not interested in it...[/quote]

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- deepsignal said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 06:03
Been poking around ping for about 1.5 hrs. You can "like" and "post" (comment on) albums that you look up in the iTunes Music Store, and write reviews. These will all show up on your profile, and people who follow you will see this on their home page and can listen to longer snippets of what you like and post compared to just looking up and previewing in the iTunes Music Store. It has nothing to do with what you play in itunes. If a song is not in the iTMS, it does not exist in Ping.

my music: http://www.last.fm/music/N.Sputnik/Singles+2010

[quote][b][user]deepsignal[/user][/b] said: Been poking around ping for about 1.5 hrs. You can "like" and "post" (comment on) albums that you look up in the iTunes Music Store, and write reviews. These will all show up on your profile, and people who follow you will see this on their home page and can listen to longer snippets of what you like and post compared to just looking up and previewing in the iTunes Music Store. It has nothing to do with what you play in itunes. If a song is not in the iTMS, it does not exist in Ping.[/quote]

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- dori_doreau said...
- User
- 2 Sep 2010, 08:57
deepsignal said:
If a song is not in the iTMS, it does not exist in Ping.

and therefore i'm not interested in using ping at all.

[quote][b][user]dori_doreau[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]deepsignal[/user][/b] said: If a song is not in the iTMS, it does not exist in Ping.[/quote] and therefore i'm not interested in using ping at all.[/quote]

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