Scrobbling portable players and iPods (also shuffle) from Winamp

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- Flo_La said...
- User
- 30 Sep 2007, 17:47
Scrobbling portable players and iPods (also shuffle) from Winamp
Hi everyone,

Half a year ago I was looking for possibilities to scrobble tracks from my ipod shuffle using Winamp, but I couldn't find any. I don't use iTunes at all and the official last.fm client only scrobbles tracks played directly in Winamp.

By now there is some support for ipod scrobbling with the official client. It seems like this only works with iTunes though.

That's why during the last few weeks I wrote my own scrobbler using the ActiveWinamp plugin by Shane Hird.

And, hey, we need a name...

It's the AWAAS, the ActiveWinAmpAudioScrobbler

Of course it is nothing as fancy and shiny as the official last.fm client, but it does have some features that might interest some of the Winamp fans.

Here are a couple of features:
Scrobbles any tracks from Winamp
Tracks from portable media players which report the playcounts and playtimes to the Winamp media library get scrobbled too.
Works with iPod shuffle
Scrobbles tracks from a user-selected Winamp Smart View
Optionally sends "Now Playing" notification to last.fm
Updates "playcount" and "last played" times of the Media Library according to the rules of last.fm (If 50% of track or more than 240 seconds were played the track "counts as played")
Caches played tracks if temporarily offline
Logs submissions and errors
keeps a low profile, doesn't bother you

If you are an interested and brave individual, it would be great if you could do some alpha testing.
Well, I have been using it for a while and both my Winamp Library and my last.fm account are in excellent shape. ;)

You can either respond to this post or send me a private message, and I'll send you the program.

AWAAS is released. You can find it at sourceforge:
http://awaas.sourceforge.net
[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: Hi everyone, Half a year ago I was looking for possibilities to scrobble tracks from my ipod shuffle using Winamp, but I couldn't find any. I don't use iTunes at all and the official last.fm client only scrobbles tracks played directly in Winamp. By now there is some support for ipod scrobbling with the official client. It seems like this only works with iTunes though. That's why during the last few weeks I wrote my own scrobbler using the ActiveWinamp plugin by Shane Hird. And, hey, we need a name... It's the [b]AWAAS[/b], the [b]ActiveWinAmpAudioScrobbler[/b] Of course it is nothing as fancy and shiny as the official last.fm client, but it does have some features that might interest some of the Winamp fans. Here are a couple of features: [ulist][li]Scrobbles any tracks from Winamp[/li][li]Tracks from portable media players which report the playcounts and playtimes to the Winamp media library get scrobbled too.[/li][li]Works with iPod shuffle[/li][li]Scrobbles tracks from a user-selected Winamp Smart View[/li][li]Optionally sends "Now Playing" notification to last.fm[/li][li]Updates "playcount" and "last played" times of the Media Library according to the rules of last.fm (If 50% of track or more than 240 seconds were played the track "counts as played")[/li][li]Caches played tracks if temporarily offline[/li][li]Logs submissions and errors[/li][li]keeps a low profile, doesn't bother you[/li][/ulist] If you are an interested and brave individual, it would be great if you could do some alpha testing. Well, I have been using it for a while and both my Winamp Library and my last.fm account are in excellent shape. ;) You can either respond to this post or send me a private message, and I'll send you the program. [b]AWAAS is released. You can find it at sourceforge: [url=http://awaas.sourceforge.net]http://awaas.sourceforge.net[/url][/b][/quote]
Edited by Flo_La on 18 May 2008, 10:41

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- Jester-NL said...
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- 30 Sep 2007, 18:02
iPod/WinAmp-user signing up ;)

I'd like to test it for you... and alpha-testing has been a while for me :P

Remember to say "thank you" for the things you haven't had

[quote][b][user]Jester-NL[/user][/b] said: iPod/WinAmp-user signing up ;) I'd like to test it for you... and alpha-testing has been a while for me :P[/quote]

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- RegalKingSize said...
- User
- 6 Oct 2007, 20:48
I'd like to try this out please.

Used to use Amarok to scrobble my Ipod track, but I'm stuck with Windows for a while :-(

--
RegalKingSize

[quote][b][user]RegalKingSize[/user][/b] said: I'd like to try this out please. Used to use Amarok to scrobble my Ipod track, but I'm stuck with Windows for a while :-([/quote]

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- fleshbox said...
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- 10 Oct 2007, 00:18
I would be interested if you are still looking. Since the problems with iTunes and iScrobbler I have been looking for a way to get my plays scrobbled reliably.

I am me, and that is all that counts.

[quote][b][user]fleshbox[/user][/b] said: I would be interested if you are still looking. Since the problems with iTunes and iScrobbler I have been looking for a way to get my plays scrobbled reliably.[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
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- 10 Oct 2007, 23:27
Yes, anybody who is interested can test.
I just need an email address to send you the program. It's probably best if you PM me at Flo_La and include your email.

In the meantime I have updated the readme. Now there is more information about installation and usage to make the testing easier.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: Yes, anybody who is interested can test. I just need an email address to send you the program. It's probably best if you PM me at [user]Flo_La[/user] and include your email. In the meantime I have updated the readme. Now there is more information about installation and usage to make the testing easier.[/quote]

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- let_itdrown said...
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- 25 Oct 2007, 03:59
alright, so this works for other kinds of iPods too, right?

[quote][b][user]let_itdrown[/user][/b] said: alright, so this works for other kinds of iPods too, right?[/quote]

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- KMFCM said...
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- 26 Oct 2007, 11:47
if this works with the new iPod classic, I will test it for you

"i'm looking over your shoulder, but only because I've got your back" - Stephen Colbert

[quote][b][user]KMFCM[/user][/b] said: if this works with the new iPod classic, I will test it for you[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
- User
- 27 Oct 2007, 22:59
to answer the last two posts:
Yes, it is programmed so that it should work with any kind of portable player that syncs its playcounts and times to the Winamp media library.
For ipods I recommend ml_ipod http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/, it's what I use with my ipod shuffle. With the newest patch - if you are using Winamp 5.5 - it should work with the new ipod classic (the 3G)

Thanks to ivanko021's testing I was able to find the problems with the installation.
That's why I included a batch file into the package to do the installation. That should make the AWAAS a lot more usable.

I am also happy that my testing of the scripts with Winamp 5.5 was successful. So AWAAS should be compatible with all Winamp 5.x version.

So who's in for another round of testing?
You can email me Flo_La at vollbio.de and I'll send you the package.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: to answer the last two posts: Yes, it is programmed so that it should work with any kind of portable player that [b]syncs its playcounts and times to the Winamp media library[/b]. For ipods I recommend ml_ipod [url]http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/[/url], it's what I use with my ipod shuffle. With the newest patch - if you are using Winamp 5.5 - it should work with the new ipod classic (the 3G) Thanks to [user]ivanko021[/user]'s testing I was able to find the problems with the installation. That's why I included a batch file into the package to do the installation. That should make the AWAAS a lot more usable. I am also happy that my testing of the scripts with Winamp 5.5 was successful. So AWAAS should be compatible with all Winamp 5.x version. So who's in for another round of testing? You can email me Flo_La [i]at[/i] vollbio.de and I'll send you the package.[/quote]

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- Tibod said...
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- 28 Oct 2007, 22:26
I'm really interested in this.. I'm using my windows mobile phone for music playing and I'd like to scrobble the songs that I play on it.
I've tried other scrobblers, but this seems a better idea.. I'm using winamp to drop music on it, now I only need to find an option to update the played count.

Can you send me the program too?

Thx!
Tibod

[quote][b][user]Tibod[/user][/b] said: I'm really interested in this.. I'm using my windows mobile phone for music playing and I'd like to scrobble the songs that I play on it. I've tried other scrobblers, but this seems a better idea.. I'm using winamp to drop music on it, now I only need to find an option to update the played count. Can you send me the program too? Thx! Tibod[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
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- 30 Oct 2007, 21:38
If you could find a way of having your Winamp media library updated with the songs that you played on your Windows Mobile phone that would be great. Then the AWAAS should work for scrobbling songs.

Just send me an email, and you can have to program for testing. Would be nice if we could get that to work for Windows Mobile devices, I myself would be interested in that too.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: If you could find a way of having your Winamp media library updated with the songs that you played on your Windows Mobile phone that would be great. Then the AWAAS should work for scrobbling songs. Just send me an email, and you can have to program for testing. Would be nice if we could get that to work for Windows Mobile devices, I myself would be interested in that too.[/quote]

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- let_itdrown said...
- User
- 5 Nov 2007, 21:11
Question Edit

Alright. I guess what I should have asked was

Will this work for manually managed iPods?

[quote][b][user]let_itdrown[/user][/b] said: Alright. I guess what I should have asked was Will this work for manually managed iPods?[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
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- 9 Nov 2007, 00:54
Sure. As far as I know Winamp (especially the ml_ipod plugin) doesn't even have that distinction between automatically and manually managed iPods. No automatic sync of your songs is required. Just the syncing of the playtimes and counts that I mentioned before has to happen in order to scrobble the songs.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: Sure. As far as I know Winamp (especially the ml_ipod plugin) doesn't even have that distinction between automatically and manually managed iPods. No automatic sync of your songs is required. Just the syncing of the playtimes and counts that I mentioned before has to happen in order to scrobble the songs.[/quote]

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- picaresque_ said...
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- 11 Nov 2007, 02:26
Tibod said:
I'm really interested in this.. I'm using my windows mobile phone for music playing and I'd like to scrobble the songs that I play on it.

For scrobbling tracks played by Windows Media Player Mobile, have a look at this group.

[quote][b][user]picaresque_[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]Tibod[/user][/b] said: I'm really interested in this.. I'm using my windows mobile phone for music playing and I'd like to scrobble the songs that I play on it.[/quote] For scrobbling tracks played by Windows Media Player Mobile, have a look [url=http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Mobile]at this group[/url]. [/quote]

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- Bruno_MacLeod said...
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- 22 Nov 2007, 02:20
Man, I just looking for it!

It will be a pleasure to alpha test it for you!

PM me too!

Keep on walking that road!

[quote][b][user]Bruno_MacLeod[/user][/b] said: Man, I just looking for it! It will be a pleasure to alpha test it for you! PM me too![/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
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- 18 Jan 2008, 22:12
the state of things

At this point I would still be happy if someone tested my scripts and then actually gave me some feedback. A few people did that and were helpful with nailing down a few minor issues. Thanks to ivanko021, Bruno_MacLeod and the other testers so far.

I think it is safe to say that the AWAAS works with Windows XP (English and German versions at least, probably most languages with "western" type sets).
It works with both my ipod shuffle (2G) and my ipod nano (3G).
Also, all Winamp versions 5.3 and later seem to work.

However, ActiveWinamp has some issues on Windows Vista. Hopefully Shane Hird will be able to get a fix for that soon.

This means AWAAS is restricted to XP users only at the moment.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: At this point I would still be happy if someone tested my scripts and then actually gave me [i]some[/i] feedback. A few people did that and were helpful with nailing down a few minor issues. Thanks to [user]ivanko021[/user], [user]Bruno_MacLeod[/user] and the other testers so far. I think it is safe to say that the AWAAS works with Windows XP (English and German versions at least, probably most languages with "western" type sets). It works with both my ipod shuffle (2G) and my ipod nano (3G). Also, all Winamp versions 5.3 and later seem to work. However, ActiveWinamp has some issues on Windows Vista. Hopefully Shane Hird will be able to get a fix for that soon. This means AWAAS is restricted to XP users only at the moment.[/quote]

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- ecoveg said...
- User
- 20 Jan 2008, 04:05
how do I find out if my mp3 player will sync?

Hi I have an Samsung YP-K3 & I can't seem to find out how to make it sync with winamp & I really want to try this AWAAS. Any suggestions?

Thnx

[quote][b][user]ecoveg[/user][/b] said: Hi I have an Samsung YP-K3 & I can't seem to find out how to make it sync with winamp & I really want to try this AWAAS. Any suggestions? Thnx[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
- User
- 20 Jan 2008, 17:21
The AWAAS can really only scrobble the songs you played to last.fm. It cannot sync the playcounts and times with Winamp.

So this applies to anyone who wants to know if AWAAS can scrobble your player:
You should
look for the playcount and last played time in the Winamp media library
connect your player and move a few songs to it
listen to them on your player
connect player again, (let it sync with the media library)
check the playcount and playtime
If those have updated then AWAAS can scrobble your tracks.
[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: The AWAAS can really only [i]scrobble[/i] the songs you played to last.fm. It cannot sync the playcounts and times with Winamp. So this applies to anyone who wants to know if AWAAS can scrobble your player: You should [ulist][li]look for the playcount and last played time in the Winamp media library[/li][li]connect your player and move a few songs to it[/li][li]listen to them on your player[/li][li]connect player again, (let it sync with the media library)[/li][li]check the playcount and playtime[/li][/ulist]If those have updated then AWAAS can scrobble your tracks.[/quote]

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- wolfshead said...
- User
- 29 Jan 2008, 04:33
I'll give it a go

Hey i would like to try this. Thanks in advance

[quote][b][user]wolfshead[/user][/b] said: Hey i would like to try this. Thanks in advance[/quote]

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- ChrisP06 said...
- User
- 1 Feb 2008, 21:58
hm.

I would like to try this. I'm a recent convert from itunes to winamp (and glad I did). However, from the postings, the obvious requirement for this to work is the iPod syncing the play count / times to Winamp. Mine does not do this, how can I make it?

[quote][b][user]ChrisP06[/user][/b] said: I would like to try this. I'm a recent convert from itunes to winamp (and glad I did). However, from the postings, the obvious requirement for this to work is the iPod syncing the play count / times to Winamp. Mine does not do this, how can I make it? [/quote]

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- dmee said...
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- 3 Feb 2008, 20:02
Looks interesting...

Hi Flo_La,

Why don't you upload the AWAAS to last.fm's download section or somewhere?

And are there any alternatives to that?

[quote][b][user]dmee[/user][/b] said: Hi Flo_La, Why don't you upload the AWAAS to last.fm's download section or somewhere? And are there any alternatives to that?[/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
- User
- 6 Feb 2008, 21:58
news
Hi everybody,

the good news is that I implemented two major new features:
tagging tracks right out of Winamp
You can choose songs from your playlist window in Winamp and add tags on last.fm to them.
last.fm radio streams
You can play last.fm radio streams (like your recommendations, some user's playlist or personal radio station, etc.) in Winamp.

Also I hope that I have resolved the issues with non-english operating systems. AWAAS should work under Vista now too. Unfortunately I had to sacrifice compatibility with Winamp versions below 5.5 but I think that is worth it. ;)
AWAAS now comes with a "real" exe installer that installs it as a Winamp plugin very easily.

My plan is to mail the new version to my brave testers and then, given there are no more blockers, I'll apply for an official client ID from last.fm.
If they approve it then I can upload it somewhere (probably sourceforge).

@dmee Until then, however, I am not supposed to make it publicly available.

Again, whoever is interested in serious testing can write me at
Flo_La [at] vollbio.de and I'll send the installer.

Thanks to everyone so far and
Happy testing!
[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: Hi everybody, the good news is that I implemented two [u]major new features[/u]: [ulist][li][b]tagging[/b] tracks right out of Winamp You can choose songs from your playlist window in Winamp and add tags on last.fm to them.[/li][li]last.fm [b]radio streams[/b] You can play last.fm radio streams (like your recommendations, some user's playlist or personal radio station, etc.) in Winamp.[/li][/ulist] Also I hope that I have resolved the issues with non-english operating systems. AWAAS should work under Vista now too. Unfortunately I had to sacrifice compatibility with Winamp versions below 5.5 but I think that is worth it. ;) AWAAS now comes with a "real" exe installer that installs it as a Winamp plugin very easily. My plan is to mail the new version to my brave testers and then, given there are no more blockers, I'll apply for an official client ID from last.fm. If they approve it then I can upload it somewhere (probably sourceforge). [b]@dmee[/b] Until then, however, I am not supposed to make it publicly available. Again, whoever is interested in serious testing can write me at Flo_La [at] vollbio.de and I'll send the installer. Thanks to everyone so far and Happy testing![/quote]

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- SuperBeast899 said...
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- 8 Mar 2008, 19:31
Help with activewinamp on vista?

Flo_La,

I am working on a plug-in using activewinamp and I am having a problem with compatibility with Vista. I am guessing this is the problem you solved.

Any chance you can let me in on the tweaks you made to get activewinamp to work with Vista?

Thanks in advance!

[quote][b][user]SuperBeast899[/user][/b] said: Flo_La, I am working on a plug-in using activewinamp and I am having a problem with compatibility with Vista. I am guessing this is the problem you solved. Any chance you can let me in on the tweaks you made to get activewinamp to work with Vista? Thanks in advance![/quote]

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- Flo_La said...
- User
- 18 May 2008, 10:39
release

AWAAS is released. You can find it at sourceforge:
http://awaas.sourceforge.net

Thanks to many people for valuable comments and help during the testing up to now!
I would especially like to acknowledge the following people:
Ivan, Bruno, Travis, Christoph, Frank, Fabien, affa, Martina, Ulli, Jimmy, and Brandon (in no particular order, chronological at best)

So grab your copy and give me some feedback.

[quote][b][user]Flo_La[/user][/b] said: AWAAS is released. You can find it at sourceforge: [url=http://awaas.sourceforge.net]http://awaas.sourceforge.net[/url] Thanks to many people for valuable comments and help during the testing up to now! I would especially like to acknowledge the following people: Ivan, Bruno, Travis, Christoph, Frank, Fabien, affa, Martina, Ulli, Jimmy, and Brandon (in no particular order, chronological at best) So grab your copy and give me some feedback. [/quote]

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- freerobby said...
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- 19 May 2008, 12:22
Awesome

Thanks so much!

[quote][b][user]freerobby[/user][/b] said: Thanks so much![/quote]

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- Ria_Bacon said...
- User
- 9 Jun 2008, 23:11
Unknown smart view field

What is supposed to go in the smart view field? When the login screen first appeared, "audio" was already in the smart view field. However, the plugin was obviously not activated and a dialogue box popped up asking for smart view name. I've tried "audio" and "none", but have not got any further with installing this.

[quote][b][user]Ria_Bacon[/user][/b] said: What is supposed to go in the smart view field? When the login screen first appeared, "audio" was already in the smart view field. However, the plugin was obviously not activated and a dialogue box popped up asking for smart view name. I've tried "audio" and "none", but have not got any further with installing this.[/quote]

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