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nfopuhfxir
Decent diss track, but overrated as hell. [2] yea, I love a good diss but I’m uncomfortable with how much some of these older ones relied on homophobia
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KennethHardema
It’s interesting seeing people retrospectively criticize Nas/DMX/Em for the use of those terms—and I don’t use those words, but at that time growing up at that time young people at least did use that type of language in everyday conversation when putting others down. I also believe maybe we put each other down for things we couldn’t change back then more than people do today. Like when I was in school we’d “Joan” and mock people for their physical appearance, their race, perceived sexuality but this was normal behavior at the time it wasn’t considered ‘bullying’ type behavior and people weren’t getting cancelled back then for words you know. As I recall they had to have a Wanda Sykes commercial in the early 2000s to kinda dissuade male teens-twenties that homosexuality wasn’t a poking point to mock a straight man’s masculinity. I guess all I’m saying is this one of the greatest diss tracks of all time but it’s easier to appreciate in the context in which it was produced.
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Trempest
You had to be around in the early 2000s when homophobia still permeated a lot of things, especially hip hop culture and i mean yeah it's lame but I remember reading about/watching Jay-Z dissing Prodigy from Mobb Deep by putting some pictures of him as a child in a dance uniform on screen to diss him to a ton of people, and it makes you know all those lines had to have really fucked with Jay-Z.
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b_griz
Ether basically discredited the whole blueprint album. To this day I can't listen to blueprint without laughing and not think about Ether. Jay for sure had a better beat and the "facts" as his stans will always say, but all those things didn't have as much of an impact as Ether did. One of the reasons is Jay Z should have focused on Nas only, it's like a copout if you going to diss many people and act like you are above all other rappers. That's like the sneak dissing that Drake does. It's safe The second reason is Nas is just a better rapper. Jay Z is a cooler person, he's done cool things so he has a lot of cool things to rap about. I'm not saying he's a wack rapper but his life is what gives him the edge over other people. Not the rapping
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WilsonFanderman
Yeah I’ve changed my mind now and I pick Ether, it just such a good job at attacking Jay’s music and has some truths to it.
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ThisIsTooReal
and even if you remove those 2 lines ether is still best diss song of all time
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ThisIsTooReal
All these people complaining about gay jokes forgot this came out almost 15 years ago, gay jokes used to be basically pc
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JohnnyBIaze
Jay-Z is a great rapper, but there's no way he beat Nas in this one...Takeover was kinda weak.
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hollabackitsobi
lol at people thinking Jay-Z is a better rapper or has a better body of music than Nas. Illmatic single-handedly destroys any argument. Nas could have released Nastradamus 10 times and it wouldn't matter. Get this through your heads.
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G0dL0vesUgly
And did you really just say I Am is better than The Blueprint? K your opinion in irrelevant anymore
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G0dL0vesUgly
And imo all of y'all are missing the biggest diss in this song. Your talking bout biting Bigs lines, Em killing him, yada yada. But for real the thing that really made me feel Nas one was he basically called him out on his whole style and all his cocaine shit. "In 88 you was getting' chased through your building." Like wasn't Jays whole persona he was some sort of king pin in the crack game. Nas kinda called him out saying he wasn't. But whatever i love both artists, both great.
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