I used to think Dirty was their noisier record. Was I wrong? I mean, that record has their pop moments (most of it), and Bad Moon Rise is more no wave-oriented (Anyone?). Maybe the noisier should be Confusion Is Sex, which have no wave moments too? by the way, I love Brother James, one of their best songs.
From what I've been able to gather, most people seem to like Rather Ripped because of how 'accessible' they find it. So, I guess Rather Ripped is a good album if you don't like good Sonic Youth albums?
@joshuak89 I wasn't aware of the Pavement connection with Rather Ripped but I doubt that really explains it. For some reason, maybe I can articulate more later about it, I just find Rather Ripped such a bore. By the way, I can dig on Pavement too, gimmie some Slanted & Enchanted and I'm a happy dude.
@mybloodyprofile isn't Rather Ripped the album that Mark Ibold appeared on? Maybe it has so many plays because Pavement fanboys like myself. It's really just a solid album though. A lot of people adore Incinerate and while its a good song, I much prefer Jams Run Free and Pink Steam.
I can certainly, abso-freakin'-lutely comprehend and accept the last.fm/ modern love for Washing Machine. It's because it's a solid record. Now, can someone please kindly explain to me how and why Rather Ripped is one of the most listened to albums by them? THAT I do not understand.
Washing Machine is one of the albums that placed low on MY list but I still greatly admire it. I need to listen to it again, maybe I'll rank it higher but I doubt it. I think I still have a good recollection of it overall. Bad Moon Rising and Goo are unique in my love for them, so I won't use them as a markers for my argument. While Washing Machine is a decent album by Sonic Youth standards, it's certainly no Daydream Nation, Sister, or EVOL. I think that's not even debatable. What I will surrender is this: The Diamond Sea is easily one of their finest pieces and one of my favorite and most personally cherished Sonic Youth songs ever. :)
@wakmuzach: You're looking for Confusion Is Sex but I'd strongly recommend Bad Moon Rising, their follow-up, it's got the heavily noisy soundscape that you're looking for but they shaped it in a jagged direction to drive this feeling of dread, punk, and avant-garde slaughter into this visionary realm of static wonder that they never explored again. So, while Confusion Is Sex is certainly their noisiest, Bad Moon Rising is their best noisy record and is my personal favorite album by Sonic Youth as well. Well, there. Hope that answers your question. :)
What a load of bollocks. Industrial music had nothing to do with no wave. They originated on other sides of the Atlantic and had different sets of influences. Gira didn't even become influenced by industrial until after the association with Sonic Youth was over and he was trying to get away from the no wave label (as were they). Clearly you are just making it up as you go along, though, so why bother debating.
@sunheadbowed They were aligned with Swans for a glorious moment, that's Industrial enough for me. Anyways, Industrial, no-wave. Tom-AY-to, Tom-AH-to. They were essentially sister genres, with Industrial stemming more from the musique concrète and elektronische musik traditions.
@Misterjunior Or, alternatively, I actually appreciate them for distinctly non-"trad rock" reasons, hence the reference to industrial, which is of much more interest to me. But don't let that get in the way of your ignorant and reductive appraisal of me as "hipster-y," which coinicidentally happens to be the single most tired dismissing tactic of this laughable postmodern age. In any event, being labeled a "poser" is a much more damning indictment to me, so I'm just grateful I don't delude myself into thinking 'Daydream Nation' is anything more than pop/rock album on the more palatable side of post-punk. I'm 37-years-old; I got into the avant-garde through the extreme end of thrash metal and post-punk when I was 16 and I've been listening to this music for quite enough time to know what I like and to discern what is unique.
@LivingShit Funny that you take the band to task for being "an annoying cult of Cool" when your statement is that they were "vital" only up until the point of the LP issued right before they started making their most acclaimed albums (EVOL, Sister, Daydream Nation), which is about as hipster-y and transparently contrarian as it gets.