I can't really get into the new album as a whole, honestly. I dig the verses -- all the songs have kickass verses... But most of them also have really shitty choruses. Which are supposed to be the best part of the songs. Only "Unbreakable" had a really good chorus, imo. Though I must say I REALLY like that one. The chorus in What We Shared has two parts, where the first part is boring, but the second part, which plays for the first time in the second chorus, is really good. Aside from that, there are the choruses in Black Hole Halo, Before You Finally Break and Diabolical Work of Art, which are okay, and then the rest are crap. A couple of them are even astoundingly bad...
Can't they just leave this band rest in peace? Why do some of their members plus that new guy still release some kind of crappy music under that name? How about making a new band? It's worse than what happened to [artist]Mayhem[/artist] back then. Eww.
The new album is pretty good. The choruses annoy me. They all sound the same. The versus sound different from each other and most of them kick ass. It has a nice mix between the old stuff and We Rule the Night. So if you want something better than We Rule the Night, I think it's worth a listen. IMO I think We Rule the Night was better but I know anyone who doesn't like Nathan will definitely disagree with me on that.
I really, really wanted to like this album but it just doesn't do anything for me. It saddens me cause it really sounds like they tried their best but this music simply isn't strong at all. The fact that now they only have one singer doesn't help at all cause the vocal dynamics got a lot more boring and predictable (of course this doesn't apply to Before You Finally Break which is a great track). Hate to say it but unless I'll find it at some ridiculous price I ain't gonna buy it.
That's a quote from Dr. Strangelove, couldn't help it. For me all the songs sounding exactly the same is a huge weak point. And I really think old SS didn't sound any more different from other melodeath acts than any other melodeath act. They had their style but it still was generic. I've stopped listening to MDM because of all those simillar bands boring me to hell.
Also, I don't agree that old SoSy was boring. Sure, the formula was was not exactly anything special, but their sound was distinct and entirely their own. Largely because of Roland, I believe. There really isn't any other band that sound like old SoSy. The closest one would come would be the "Alive" and "Tomorrow Is Today" singles by dEMOTIONAL.
Where does the "mein fuhrer" part come in? If there is a weak point in the album, aside from the songs overall being pretty similar (though still distinguishable), it's that the choruses generally aren't very strong. Only "Unbreakable" has a truly great chorus. Though on the other hand, the verses are fucking awesome. On all the tracks imo. Very catchy while still being heavy.
Took a listen to a few songs from the new album and I'm dissapointed. I don't give a crap if a band sells out or not (hint: metal is already mainstream. Sorry, listened to too much underground music to deny it). SS swapped their boring (if solid) melodeath sound to actualy kinda' unique style on We Rule The Night. Sure, it was a sell out album, but it was interesting at that, much more so than the generic music they played before. And now, thanks to as always wonderfully tolerant metal community that shits at every band's attempt at changing sound, they sell out again. Unfortunetly seems like attempting to please the metal massess resulted in a boring-ass mix of trying-too-hard-to-be-METAL-MEIN-FUHRER-I-CAN-GROWL!-verses and hey-we're-still-catchy!-choruses. I still have to take a listen to the entire album but from what I've read here.. What a dissapointment.
And it wasn't the variety that pissed people off with WRTN. It was the fact that most of the album was so commercial in sound. So tailored to the mainstream masses (compared to their old records, mind you). So it came off as just a massive sellout album. And no one who's into alternative music likes it when bands sell out. And why would they care what Richard thought? He's no longer in the band. Or even Roger for that matter, even though he seemingly only left the band in order to focus on The Unguided with Richard, rather than because he had a beef with the album or the band like Richard did.
It's a nitpick on its own, sure. But it's just one part of a bigger problem. For one, if you're concious of it, that alone does a lot of making the songs sound similar. That among other things, like especially the synth. Not to mention that the tempo and even the melodies are very predictable. I don't mind a band being fomulaic, but Fragile Immortality was formulaic to the point of absurdity. Pretty much the only song that stands out even slightly is "Enforce". All the other songs just blend together with barely any distinction between them. And the worst part is that the band claimed that they were going out of their comfort zone and put more effort into that album. What? At least on Hellfrost you could actually tell the songs apart from each other...
That must be the stupidest example of nitpicking in a long while. Hey guys, have you noticed how many songs have screaming in the verses and singing in the choruses? Or how almost all songs are in either C minor or F minor? How they're all structured almost exactly the same? If you liked either sonic syndicate or the unguided to begin with you really shouldn't complain about them being formulatic in their song writing, because they always were. This new record isn't bad, I'd just like to point out that most of the band complained that only inhuman and laod were too samey, they then tried to forcefully push WRTN in as many directions as they could while alienating the people who wrote almost all of their songs up to that point which caused them to leave. They've now realised that they fucked up and are trying their best to replicate the old sonic syndicate formula while pretending nothing happened. And it came out samey.
Well not just the keys,most of the songs in FI are sounding the same.Songs like Inception,Eye Of The Thylacine,Only Human and Singularity really stands out ,but the rest of the album is quite the same,and so what if unguided had more riffs in FI,they even got more solos in it but they all sound like for the sake of being there and not because they fit.Hellfrost was better album in my opinion,and dont get me wrong the new sonic is not a masterpiece but it is far better than WRTN and LAOD.
Ps: and better than FI :D
I totally have, there are how many riffs used, 2, 3? ^^ FI songs are different enough but maybe for someone they sound the same because of Pontus' keys.
So now that we've established that Sonic Syndicate has redeemed themselves and that the new album is at the very least decent, let's thumb up some pictures of the current lineup. http://www.last.fm/music/Sonic+Syndicate/+images/98508579
Well the new album is good (not great,but good) and in my humble opinion is better than the Generic Fragile imortality...
The new record is just average and yea, all the songs are too much alike. Also, what on earth is with the production? It's absolutely horrible. Did the sound engineer have otitus? Fragile Immortality is miles ahead of this anyway.
The closest thing this band has ever gotten to being Nu Metal was 'Revolution Baby' on WRTN, and even that was still far from Nu Metal. Groove, I can agree (no more than their peers in Soilwork and Disarmonia Mundi, but still...), but not Nu Metal.
There's no death metal in their sound. never was. grunts and guitars don't mean death metal. This is like Arch Enemy Groove/Nu Metal with some harsh vocals and some melodies. Real Melo-death sounds like Dismember or Edge of Sanity for example.