Metallica are much better than Maiden

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Iron Maiden are one of the most overrated Metal bands along with Judas Priest. Admittedly, their vocalists have always been top notch, and this separates them from the rest of the Heavy Metal scene. However, this is because they are simply listened to in the same manner as pop music, with the vocals acting as a hook to lure the listener in. It's no wonder they appeal to Rush fans, as they are another band who make instrumentally driven music but rely on a vocalist. In contrast Metallica let their instruments lead the way with their heavy, crunchy guitar tone prominent in their first few albums.

Now, Iron Maiden may make use of three guitarists, but what they do play is ridiculously easy, and therefore could be cut down to two guitarists. Furthermore, why do they need a bassist if they already got three guitars? Iron Maiden are trying to be Slipknot without DJs in order to fill up their stage with their excessive instruments to appeal heavy. In reality, they fail miserably at this, even AC/DC are much heavier, and much less melodic.

Now if they weren't trying to achieve this, they would use their musicals heads (if they had any) and switch it up. The bass is used primarily for rhythmatic and harmonic effects, so why not let one guitarist be the rhythm guitar and another one the harmonic playing the same as the rhythm guitar just on a louder scale? Well because, that would actually require some knowledge about amps and the relationship with harmonics and acoustics, which they clearly don't have - unless they are trying to be the Heavy Metal version of Slipknot. Plus, they know they'll never be as loud as Manowar (who have the loudest recorded concerts), so they have to beef it up with three guitars.

So, the lead guitarist would be... well... leading. Wouldn't that be better? Some guitars can actually play much like a bass, and we don't need an extra Steve Harris gallop in the background. They don't have the greatest bassist of all time - Cliff Burton, who actually attacked the bass rather than just playing gallops, so what's the point of him? I mean, I can understand if they only had one guitarist, but if they're going to use 3 guitars then not make use of dual bassists?

Now, as I said earlier - their music is very easy to play, as they make of legato playing. This means the technique used justifies playing notes that are close and on the same string,. Judas Priest are guilty of this also, with their parallel power chords, but Iron Maiden really take the biscuit. The strumming for the hammer-ons and pull-offs is so straight forward and so unbelievably easy, but they get away with it because no one will dare to criticize their playing of the Metal "Gods."

They can't play as fast as Metallica, so they rely on open strings and pull offs for speed Just look at this:


Now let's look at the solos, Iron Maiden again stick to playing notes together with the trilling solos (alternation between 2 adjacent notes) in their two most famous tracks "Run to the Hills" and "The Number of the Beast."
In this solo below, they don't venture out of the eleventh or twelve fret. Furthermore, it begins on the root and finales on a root note, increasing the ease of play.



Now let's look at a Metallica riff:


Straight away, you can see it's much harder to play. The first riff is made up of palm muting and open string phases, meaning you must keep them very short and tight. Unlike Iron Maiden, you actually need to move a few fingers for this riff, in fact your whole palm is required in order to cover the bridge section.



I could give umpteen examples of how Metallica are simply better players, and their guitar and drumming technique equates to their more aggressive sound.

Iron Maiden fans will refuse to accept this, and will no doubt rage at my suggestion of them being poppy, well in contrast to Metallica they simply are. Quite frankly, they even fail as pop music, give me Sonata Arctica over Maiden's preconscious whiff.

Let's take a look at their fanbase, they won't listen to anything outside of the Rock spectrum, usually sticking to other Mainstream Metal. All Metallica fans know of Diamond head because they covered them, and Metallica fans generally have a much more expansive taste. Evidence of this is in the Flight 666 documentary by Sam Dunn. They all have Iron Maiden shirts on even though they are at their concert. Point to me one fan in a Devourment T-shirt.

Other reasons they are better:
1. Superior, meaningful lyrics. For example, Metallica's "One" is a more emotionally moving and passionate war song than Maiden's Paschendale.

2. Every music critic or professional music website rates Master Of puppets as one of, if not the best, Heavy metal album of all time.

Scaruffi - Italian critic knowledgeable about classical music - lists his best heavy-metal albums of all times.

2. Master of Puppets
42. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden

Allmusic

"Some critics have called Master of Puppets the best heavy metal album ever recorded; if it isn't, it certainly comes close."

3. Metallica revolutionized music.which is why they are in the Rock and Roll hall of fame. They invented Thrash Metal (if you disagree go and watch "Get Thrashed"), experimented with blues Rock (Reload / Load), Symphonic Metal, (S&M) Avant-Garde (St.Anger and LuLu.) Iron Maiden fans are such narrow-minded jerk offs, they can't handle musical variation, and somehow think "musical variation" is synonymous with selling out.



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  • ivanh-

    Like both but Maiden is much better

    18. Jan., 14:45 Antworten
  • rOnieAirhead

    The most stupid comparison and reasons I've ever seen.

    26. Dez. 2012 Antworten
  • KeIemvor

    If you actually believe in any of this... I just feel really bad for you. [2]

    7. Sep. 2012 Antworten
  • purplehazethc

    No Maiden = no Metallica. And I don't really like either band.

    17. Mär. 2012 Antworten
  • 3dd656

    It's funny, because Trash is an attention whore. That's the only reason he's ever made groups. Not because he's at all intelligent or even capable of proper debate.

    11. Mär. 2012 Antworten
  • Frostdaddy

    If you actually believe in any of this... I just feel really bad for you.

    17. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Robesko

    LOL this group is a troll XD

    9. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    Slipknot at least don't resort to the E chord as many metal bands do, just had a look in their tabs and they don't have very few 0s, when most traditional Metal bands' tabs revolve around: http://www.music-for-music-teachers.com/images/chords-e-and-em.gif

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Samoroth

    What still doesn't mean they are trying to play as bad as Slipknot does.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    "Are so flawed and are based on your own emotions for Metallica rather than common sense, which makes your views even more flawed. Which is funny because you once claimed to be a person without emotions." Music = emotions. Music theory = common sense. An aspiring music critic such as me uses both in their arguments.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    "Once again, how are they trying to be a heavy metal version of Slipknot." Excessive and poor use of instruments, which both bands are guilty of.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Samoroth

    Still nothing on the Slipknot issue.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    "AC/DC indeed have songs that sound heavier, but being heavy is not the point of Iron Maiden, it should have been of Metallica, but they decided to make an album like Load (a load of crap it is), Haha, this group is just too dumb for words." When did I ever claim all their music is heavy? I was comparing their Metal work mostly. Plus, Load and Reload but blues back into their music. Before Metallica, metal was mainly blues-influenced and they just wanted to revert back to that. Again "it's crap" is just your opinion, why should I care about it?

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    "Also, the guy couldn't drum to save his life." Proof?

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    "By the way, posting a picture of Iron Maiden fans that you deem to be ugly is just Childish, because there certainly are pictures of buttugly Metallica fans." Proof?

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    I also never claimed that Metallica were complex, just better at their instruments technically. Work on your reading comprehension.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Samoroth

    Got nothing to say about the Slipknot thing? You disappoint me. Hetfield made fun of Layne Staley's drug addiction while having problems with alcohol himself.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    5. The Beatles do write complex music in their harmony, just shows how little you know. e.g.: "I Want To Hold Your Hand" - The 1st part of the A-section: I V7 vi III7 That III7 sets up the relative minor (vi) as tonic, but now, the phrase reverts to the I. The I-IV-I sub dominant chord is far more commonly used than a simple harmonic progression (such as I V7 vi III7 progression found in a few of their songs.) For example, 'Love Me Do.'

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Trash73

    4. Hypocrites of what?

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
  • Samoroth

    You said you compared them to when they were their prime but still said Iron Maiden are trying to be a heavy metal version of Slipknot, which is just laughable.

    6. Jan. 2012 Antworten
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